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Grishnor 01-19-06, 09:58 AM	I remember reading somewhere the ratio WOTC was using for how much time passed in the real world, to how much time passes in Forgotten Realms. I think it was for every 2 real days there were 5 in FR timeline but I can't remember. Anyone help? Kuje... I know your out there :P
Kuje31 01-19-06, 11:33 AM	I thought I answered this before, earlier. :) It's on page 260 of the FRCS, but at one point WOTC fell behind on that so I'm not sure if they caught up. Someone should go ask Rich, again.
Grishnor 01-19-06, 03:55 PM	yeah i posted it somewhere but never saw the answer and now i can't find the post. Thanks again
Demetrios 01-19-06, 06:52 PM	I thought I answered this before, earlier. :) It's on page 260 of the FRCS, but at one point WOTC fell behind on that so I'm not sure if they caught up. Someone should go ask Rich, again. Actually, it's not that they fell behind but instead pulled well ahead. That's why Champions of Valor has the date specifically mentioned in the introduction, presumably future products will have as well...
Kuje31 01-19-06, 07:26 PM	Actually, it's not that they fell behind but instead pulled well ahead. That's why Champions of Valor has the date specifically mentioned in the introduction, presumably future products will have as well... This is not what Rich said the time he was asked about this and he specifically said that WOTC fell behind on what was in the FRCS. Now, you can argue it with Rich, if you like, but that's just plain silly.
Demetrios 01-20-06, 05:08 PM	This is not what Rich said the time he was asked about this and he specifically said that WOTC fell behind on what was in the FRCS. Now, you can argue it with Rich, if you like, but that's just plain silly. I don't have to argue with Rich - I'll just let the math speak for itself: The FRCS was released in June, 2001, with a base date of Midsummer, 1372 DR. In the sidebar on page 260, it gives this base date, as well as stating that they plan to move the timeline forward two years for every five years of real time, or at a rate of 0.4 normal time. Fast forward to August, 2004. 38 months have passed in real time, so according to the FRCS timeline, the setting date should have advanced 15.2 months (0.4 x 38), which means that the setting date would have been approximately 6 Uktar, 1373 DR. But that month, Forsaken House was released, moving the time line into 1374 DR, about 4.5 months ahead of the schedule from the FRCS. So, WotC indisputably got ahead of the FRCS schedule... (The accessories have actually been just about correct according to the schedule - Shining South was the last one for which 1373 was the default year and Lost Empires was the first for 1374, which is pretty much right on the nose. Shining South was released in October, 2004, and the changeover from 1373 to 1374 would have taken place in late December 2004/early January 2005, 42.5 months after the FRCS release, depending on the exact release date of the FRCS, which I don't have handy at the moment)
Kuje31 01-20-06, 05:20 PM	I don't have to argue with Rich - I'll just let the math speak for itself: The FRCS was released in June, 2001, with a base date of Midsummer, 1372 DR. In the sidebar on page 260, it gives this base date, as well as stating that they plan to move the timeline forward two years for every five years of real time, or at a rate of 0.4 normal time. Fast forward to August, 2004. 38 months have passed in real time, so according to the FRCS timeline, the setting date should have advanced 15.2 months (0.4 x 38), which means that the setting date would have been approximately 6 Uktar, 1373 DR. But that month, Forsaken House was released, moving the time line into 1374 DR, about 2.5 months ahead of the schedule from the FRCS. So, WotC indisputably got ahead of the FRCS schedule... (The accessories have actually been just about correct according to the schedule - Shining South was the last one for which 1373 was the default year and Lost Empires was the first for 1374, which is pretty much right on the nose. [i]Shining South[i] was released in mid-October, 2004, and the changeover from 1373 to 1374 would have taken place in late October/early November 2004, 42.5 months after the FRCS release, depending on the exact release date of the FRCS, which I don't have handy at the moment) That's nice but the game designers claim differently, so as usual you want to argue with me over nothing, when they say differently. Now, if you want to keep arguing this, since I used Rich's own words about it, go argue it with him instead of with me.
Demetrios 01-20-06, 05:23 PM	That's nice but the game designers claim differently, so as usual you want to argue with me over nothing when they say differently. Now, if you want to keep arguing this since I used Rich's own words about it, go argue it with him instead of me. I don't have to argue with anyone. Like I said, I'll let the math speak for itself. Anyone who wants to argue that can take it up with Archimedes and Euclid.
Kuje31 01-20-06, 05:28 PM	I don't have to argue with anyone. Like I said, I'll let the math speak for itself. Anyone who wants to argue that can take it up with Archimedes and Euclid. Ah, so you just want to be a PIA and argue with me for no reason. I got it. Now, I'll continue to use what the game designer said since one of them has said that they fell behind on what was on page 260. So stop being a PIA and arguing with me about it, since Rich claims differently. Now go argue it with him, instead of me. Which is why I said in my first post, someone should actually go ask him if the timeline has caught back up with what is in the FRCS. No, I don't want your math, I want it specifically from a game designer.
tae'graciel 01-20-06, 05:44 PM	Kuje is correct, I belive. I follow what game designers say. Real life has nothing to do with the game or else oh no! what if you add timezones! (which Im sure there is considering the sun revolves AROUND Toril) Dont worry about it and just play the game.
Kuje31 01-20-06, 06:34 PM	Richard Baker posted on page 14 of the, "Ask The Core Rules and Supplement Authors" thread on 01-05-04 at 12:55 PM. "Kythorn 1, 1373. We haven't really stuck with our intended world progression as well as we wanted to. I'm afraid I couldn't give you a good answer about "Thousand Orcs," try over on the book boards. quote: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Drake Ambrose Hey Rich I hope you enjoyed your time off! I have a question that I feel a bit silly for asking but as of FRPG what is the game world month year. I remember in the FR 3.0 source you mentioned a rough 5months in the real world=2months game time, however that doesn't really give a reference of when we should start counting from. And perhaps this is a little off topic but in the 1000 Orc novels what is the relational timeline in the game? Really enjoying the thread and thanks for answering us! Drake ---------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ Rich Baker Senior Designer Roleplaying R&D" Now, if they kept the 2 months for 5 months of earth time, it really should have been around Eleint/Marpenoth 1373, not Uktar 1373 in August 2004. Now as for Rich's novel, I will agree with that. However, someone still should ask him what figure they use to advance the timeline because the FRCS figure, as he said, fell behind.