Souls in the afterlife [Archive] - Wizards Community

Souls in the afterlife [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Baphomet
10-08-03, 04:30 AM How exactly do the souls of the deceased on the fugue plane look like?

I have the problem that my paladin got killed in the underdark (we did the city of the spider queen adventure, by the way). So the paladin went to the fugue plane to wait for Torm to send some emissary to get him. Then he was resurrected by our druid. He had luck and got another human body, but looked different. That was not too bad, but he died a couple of hours later again and was raised again by our druid, but this time into the body of a kobold. As he died again a few hours later, he didn't wish to return again, as he thought Torm hated him sending him into this form.

Now he waits on the fugue plane, but how does he look like? If he would even in the afterlife still look like a kobold, he would gladly return, should the druid resurrect him once more, but if he looks like he does before dying the first time, he would gladly stay with Torm.

Does anybody know anything about that?
Darkmistress
10-08-03, 06:05 AM I'm curious... How did he die so often?
nick012000
10-08-03, 06:46 AM Well, the fact he loses a level every time he is reincarnated probably didn't help.
Baphomet
10-08-03, 07:20 AM I don't know really why he died so often... probably because in a fight he always stood in the first row. Have you ever played "City of Spider Queen"? There are a lot of fights.

I think the first time he died because a drow he killed visited him the same night in his room as an undead. Unfortunately he was paralized (I'm not sure if that was because of some kind of poison of something else...) When his fellows arrived he had already a couple of arrows in his chest. That was because the undead surprised him in the middle of the night and Kosth (the paladin) didn't wear much more than his nightgown.

The second time he died was because of a vampire. That happened in a Kiaransalee-temple. Kosth went out of the room where his fellows decided to free a chained drow. He didn't want to have anything to do with that. When he was all alone in another place in the temple, the vampire attacked.

The third time he died because a priestess (in the same temple, only a few hours later) cast a slay living on him. He succeeded with the save but died from the damage anyway. That was the point where I as the player somehow lost the will to play that campaign any longer...
Baphomet
10-08-03, 07:21 AM Originally posted by nick012000
Well, the fact he loses a level every time he is reincarnated probably didn't help.

The campaign was set for 10th lvl characters, so that didn't matter too much
Darkmistress
10-08-03, 07:28 AM Oh, my... Poor thing.

But I now know why I never play a paladin. :smirk:

I still can't help you with the appearance on Fugue Plains, though. Hell, I don't recall reading any set-in-stone rule about this. I suggest that you house rule it away.
Morka
10-08-03, 08:17 AM I think the soul is the self-perception of a sentient being. In your description, the paladin seems to have past almost all his life in his first human body, then a few hours in his second human being, then again a few hours in a kobold body. So his self-perception and soul form should be that of his first human body.

Another option should be a shimmering humanoīd form :angel: , without apparent features; sometime, we can see it is a kobold, sometime, his second incarnation, but most of time, we see his first. But we always KNOW it is Kosth.
Baphomet
10-08-03, 08:18 AM Yes, the poor Kosth was even called ephemera by one of his fellows.

But you're probably right with the fugue plane. I thought anyway that because it's the soul of the being who enters there, a human would still look human, because only the body changes. I was just curious how other people imagine this (if they do at all..)

By the way, our DM decided that every soul on the fugue plane is clad in a white gown with open back, like the typical hospital gowns you always see on TV.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Baphomet 10-08-03, 04:30 AM	How exactly do the souls of the deceased on the fugue plane look like? I have the problem that my paladin got killed in the underdark (we did the city of the spider queen adventure, by the way). So the paladin went to the fugue plane to wait for Torm to send some emissary to get him. Then he was resurrected by our druid. He had luck and got another human body, but looked different. That was not too bad, but he died a couple of hours later again and was raised again by our druid, but this time into the body of a kobold. As he died again a few hours later, he didn't wish to return again, as he thought Torm hated him sending him into this form. Now he waits on the fugue plane, but how does he look like? If he would even in the afterlife still look like a kobold, he would gladly return, should the druid resurrect him once more, but if he looks like he does before dying the first time, he would gladly stay with Torm. Does anybody know anything about that?
Darkmistress 10-08-03, 06:05 AM	I'm curious... How did he die so often?
nick012000 10-08-03, 06:46 AM	Well, the fact he loses a level every time he is reincarnated probably didn't help.
Baphomet 10-08-03, 07:20 AM	I don't know really why he died so often... probably because in a fight he always stood in the first row. Have you ever played "City of Spider Queen"? There are a lot of fights. I think the first time he died because a drow he killed visited him the same night in his room as an undead. Unfortunately he was paralized (I'm not sure if that was because of some kind of poison of something else...) When his fellows arrived he had already a couple of arrows in his chest. That was because the undead surprised him in the middle of the night and Kosth (the paladin) didn't wear much more than his nightgown. The second time he died was because of a vampire. That happened in a Kiaransalee-temple. Kosth went out of the room where his fellows decided to free a chained drow. He didn't want to have anything to do with that. When he was all alone in another place in the temple, the vampire attacked. The third time he died because a priestess (in the same temple, only a few hours later) cast a slay living on him. He succeeded with the save but died from the damage anyway. That was the point where I as the player somehow lost the will to play that campaign any longer...
Baphomet 10-08-03, 07:21 AM	Originally posted by nick012000 Well, the fact he loses a level every time he is reincarnated probably didn't help. The campaign was set for 10th lvl characters, so that didn't matter too much
Darkmistress 10-08-03, 07:28 AM	Oh, my... Poor thing. But I now know why I never play a paladin. :smirk: I still can't help you with the appearance on Fugue Plains, though. Hell, I don't recall reading any set-in-stone rule about this. I suggest that you house rule it away.
Morka 10-08-03, 08:17 AM	I think the soul is the self-perception of a sentient being. In your description, the paladin seems to have past almost all his life in his first human body, then a few hours in his second human being, then again a few hours in a kobold body. So his self-perception and soul form should be that of his first human body. Another option should be a shimmering humanoīd form :angel: , without apparent features; sometime, we can see it is a kobold, sometime, his second incarnation, but most of time, we see his first. But we always KNOW it is Kosth.
Baphomet 10-08-03, 08:18 AM	Yes, the poor Kosth was even called ephemera by one of his fellows. But you're probably right with the fugue plane. I thought anyway that because it's the soul of the being who enters there, a human would still look human, because only the body changes. I was just curious how other people imagine this (if they do at all..) By the way, our DM decided that every soul on the fugue plane is clad in a white gown with open back, like the typical hospital gowns you always see on TV.