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bitter thorn 09-03-06, 07:26 AM	Are there any suggestions on how to make a fort or settlement economically viabe or somewhat self sustaing in the Stonelands? Are there any expliotable natural resources such as rare minerals etc? In our game an abitious matrial commoner has his eye on the Title, but I'm juggling different plot tools for making such an endevor worth the effort from a political and economic standpoint especially considering the current state of affairs in Cormyr and the looming threat of the Shades to such a settlement.Pehaps a concentration of a mineral that disrupts magic would be an option. Is there such a material in canon? It would be highly sought after by Cormyr given the likelyhood of hostilities with the shadowvar. Are there any known dead magic zones in the Stonelands? Also any maps, current events, and political info relavent to the Stonelands would be a boon also. Thanks!:help:
Old Sage 09-03-06, 11:04 AM	Also any maps, current events, and political info relavent to the Stonelands would be a boon also.The "Stonelands and Goblin Marches" supplement from the Elminster's Ecologies boxed set. Anauroch also. And Volo's Guide to Cormyr.
bitter thorn 09-03-06, 09:49 PM	The "Stonelands and Goblin Marches" supplement from the Elminster's Ecologies boxed set. Anauroch also. And Volo's Guide to Cormyr. I've got Volo's Guide to Cormyr. Is theren a way to get Elminster's Ecologies boxed set physically or electronically?
Old Sage 09-03-06, 10:12 PM	Noblenight.com and dragontrove.com usedto offer second-hand copies (I'm not sure whether they still have any available... you'll have to check). Paizo.com offers a PDF version as I recall, for just $4US.
bitter thorn 09-03-06, 10:18 PM	Noblenight.com and dragontrove.com usedto offer second-hand copies (I'm not sure whether they still have any available... you'll have to check). Paizo.com offers a PDF version as I recall, for just $4US. Thank you sir!
bitter thorn 09-03-06, 10:33 PM	Noblenight.com and dragontrove.com usedto offer second-hand copies (I'm not sure whether they still have any available... you'll have to check). Paizo.com offers a PDF version as I recall, for just $4US. Is this the boxed set? http://paizo.com/store/downloads/wizardsOfTheCoast/aDAndD2/forgottenRealms/v5748btpy7mkm
Faraer 09-03-06, 10:40 PM	An important point about the Stonelands is that they're on both sides of the Storm Horns, unlike what most maps indicate.
bitter thorn 09-03-06, 10:53 PM	An important point about the Stonelands is that they're on both sides of the Storm Horns, unlike what most maps indicate. However, for the geopolitical purpose of the Barony of the Stonelands wouldn't just the northern badlands be relevent?
BrianCritchley 09-03-06, 11:00 PM	so for those without the book give us a short rundown of what kinda oppertunites economicly speaking we might find in the stone lands. my char is thinking a barony might be nice
bitter thorn 09-03-06, 11:59 PM	so for those without the book give us a short rundown of what kinda oppertunites economicly speaking we might find in the stone lands. my char is thinking a barony might be nice That's the rub. The primary reason the Stonelands have never been properly settled is that the political and economic gain comes no where near off setting the risk and cost of such a venture. Therefor I'm pondering creating a new profit motive (basicly out of whole clothe lore wise) for this hazardous undertaking.
Old Sage 09-04-06, 01:34 AM	Is this the boxed set? http://paizo.com/store/downloads/wizardsOfTheCoast/aDAndD2/forgottenRealms/v5748btpy7mkmThat's the one, yes. And the Appendices are available for free download here at WotC -- for the sake of completeness.
bitter thorn 09-04-06, 01:37 AM	That's the one, yes. And the Appendices are available for free download here at WotC -- for the sake of completeness. Cool, but not the "Stonelands and Goblin Marches" portions?
Old Sage 09-04-06, 01:39 AM	No. The Appendices cover other locations.
Faraer 09-04-06, 07:47 AM	However, for the geopolitical purpose of the Barony of the Stonelands wouldn't just the northern badlands be relevent?A Baron of the Stonelands would have to police and control the Stonelands entire; but Cormyr is more concerned with the part that impinges directly on its settled lands that on the part separated by the mountains.
BrianCritchley 09-04-06, 08:30 PM	given that shade has an intrest in the stonelands I suppsoe one could conclude there may well be a reason for it. perhaps there's a hitherto unknown hidden netherese "cache" in the stonelands?
bitter thorn 09-05-06, 04:12 AM	A Baron of the Stonelands would have to police and control the Stonelands entire; but Cormyr is more concerned with the part that impinges directly on its settled lands that on the part separated by the mountains. I was under the impression that everything between the Storm Horns and Arabel was already part of an established March or military district under a Lord High Marshall (IIRC).
Chloramantis 09-05-06, 12:33 PM	Lord Shade must have a reason for wanting the Stonelands. But then again, the Shades want to control all of Faerun and maybe the Stonelands are a start? There must be hidden Netherese settlements and artifacts long buried in the Stonelands. With Cormyr's current situation, I don't think they have the resources to sponsor a barony in the Stonelands. If you were to create a barony, it would need to be fully sponsored by you along with a royal charter from the Queen. It will be quite a feat to accomplish do to the goblin tribes and Shade. I know in the past Cormyr would send Purple Dragon troops and a few War Wizards to help, but I don't thik they could afford sending troops to the Stonelands when the cities of Cormyr are in ruins and Sembia is at their eastern border, waiting. As for resources, I don't think there are many mineral deposits, or anything for that matter, in the Stonelands because they would have already been found and used by the Cormyrean monarchs in the past. But then again, I don't believe the Stonelands have been fully explored so you never know? Finally, lets say you do find something, it's gonna belong to the Monarchy of Cormyr there after!
Lone_Arrow 09-05-06, 12:48 PM	The Stonelands Barony why indeed, I'll tell ye why..........Money, coin, gold, look at the map a safe overland route from the Dales to the south bypassing sembia and cormyr. I would invite dwarves to mine and quarry the stone and any mineral deposits to generate a trade and cash secure the area and then build and fortify a trading outpost. Use Knights, Dwarven defenders hell use mercs to secure the trade routes possible deal with the zents as a viable secure black market route to aid them instead of going through shade!!!! But just an idea he he he
Faraer 09-05-06, 01:29 PM	I was under the impression that everything between the Storm Horns and Arabel was already part of an established March or military district under a Lord High Marshall (IIRC).You're probably thinking of the Warden of the Eastern Marches, a different title from the Lord High Marshal, though they're both based in Arabel. I don't think the Eastern Marches have been exactly defined; they presumably include the border region between Arabel and Tilverton, but the Stonelands are mainly west of that, and of course Warden isn't a noble title of property. Another title is Scepter of the Stonelands, held by Vangerdahast, but it's honorary, of course.
bitter thorn 09-06-06, 07:07 AM	You're probably thinking of the Warden of the Eastern Marches, a different title from the Lord High Marshal, though they're both based in Arabel. I don't think the Eastern Marches have been exactly defined; they presumably include the border region between Arabel and Tilverton, but the Stonelands are mainly west of that, and of course Warden isn't a noble title of property. Another title is Scepter of the Stonelands, held by Vangerdahast, but it's honorary, of course. Is this covered in Volo's Guide to Cormyr? That's right Lord High Marshall is like the General of all the land (or is it all?) forces; isn't it? I was under the impression that niether the Stonelands nor the Tunlands were part of any military district proper.
Chloramantis 09-06-06, 11:36 AM	Although the Lord High Marshal is indeed a rank, it is also more than just a rank. It is also a specific position within the command structure of the military. There is only one Lord High Marshal at any given time, and he is the commander of all the military forces of Cormyr and is second only to the King in matters of military authority. Lord High Marshal Duke Bhereu, cousin of King Azoun IV was the last Lord High Marshal. Currently, there are only three armies in existence: the Army of the East, the Army of the West, and the Army of the Heartlands. The Army of the East was commanded by Battlemaster Baron Thomdor, which is made up of detachments in Arabel, Castle Crag, Halfhap, Tilverton and their supporting minor garrisons. The Army of the West is commanded by Oversword Thursk Dembarrion, the Lord Commander of High Horn, and is made up of all the troops in the High Horn, Eagle Peak and Skull Crag garrison and their supporting minor garrisons. The third army, the Army of the Heartlands, is made up of the Suzail, Marsember, Arabel (except for those regiments in the Army of the East), Waymoot and Wheloon garrisons and their supporting minor garrisons. Standing above these ranks is the (Lord High) Warden of the Eastern Marches, currently Dauneth Marliir. Any other regional wardens ("Warden of the North," for example) would also be at this level. The Warden of the Port of Marsember, Ayesunder Truesilver (and de facto head of the Imperial Navy), is effectively at this level as well. Above the Warden is the (Lord) High Marshal of the Kingdom. This post is currently vacant--in truth, it's filled by Alusair--and answers only to the Crown, having full command over the total forces of all Cormyr.
Quirion_Ranger 09-06-06, 03:29 PM	In andventure "The Raiders of Galath's Roost" (Dungeon Magazine 87) description (with maps) secret Zhent citadel in the Stonelands. In adventure "The Door From Everywhere" (Dungeon Magazine 88) description (with map) ruined Netheril fort with portal.
bitter thorn 09-08-06, 11:59 AM	In andventure "The Raiders of Galath's Roost" (Dungeon Magazine 87) description (with maps) secret Zhent citadel in the Stonelands. In adventure "The Door From Everywhere" (Dungeon Magazine 88) description (with map) ruined Netheril fort with portal. It's a pity I can't download them from pazio.
bitter thorn 09-08-06, 12:00 PM	Although the Lord High Marshal is indeed a rank, it is also more than just a rank. It is also a specific position within the command structure of the military. There is only one Lord High Marshal at any given time, and he is the commander of all the military forces of Cormyr and is second only to the King in matters of military authority. Lord High Marshal Duke Bhereu, cousin of King Azoun IV was the last Lord High Marshal. Currently, there are only three armies in existence: the Army of the East, the Army of the West, and the Army of the Heartlands. The Army of the East was commanded by Battlemaster Baron Thomdor, which is made up of detachments in Arabel, Castle Crag, Halfhap, Tilverton and their supporting minor garrisons. The Army of the West is commanded by Oversword Thursk Dembarrion, the Lord Commander of High Horn, and is made up of all the troops in the High Horn, Eagle Peak and Skull Crag garrison and their supporting minor garrisons. The third army, the Army of the Heartlands, is made up of the Suzail, Marsember, Arabel (except for those regiments in the Army of the East), Waymoot and Wheloon garrisons and their supporting minor garrisons. Standing above these ranks is the (Lord High) Warden of the Eastern Marches, currently Dauneth Marliir. Any other regional wardens ("Warden of the North," for example) would also be at this level. The Warden of the Port of Marsember, Ayesunder Truesilver (and de facto head of the Imperial Navy), is effectively at this level as well. Above the Warden is the (Lord) High Marshal of the Kingdom. This post is currently vacant--in truth, it's filled by Alusair--and answers only to the Crown, having full command over the total forces of all Cormyr. Thanks for the info!! Where are these updates located?
Chloramantis 09-08-06, 12:36 PM	i'll have to get back to you, there on my other computer. sorry.
bitter thorn 09-09-06, 08:55 AM	i'll have to get back to you, there on my other computer. sorry. I appreciate it!:tiphat:
Chloramantis 09-11-06, 12:06 PM	I appreciate it!:tiphat: /www.candlekeep.com/library/notebook.htm Lots of cool thing here! Look under Purple Dragons and War Wizards! good stuff, may be slightly dated though, but excellent work on the authors part.
Jerryd 09-12-06, 08:33 PM	Specifically, most of the first two paragraphs in post #21 Chloramantis got from the article "Military Forces of Cormyr" in the Candlekeep notebooks. (By the way, while I'm sure any author enjoys seeing his work used by others, it's generally good form to attribute the source when providing direct quotes!)
bitter thorn 09-13-06, 02:37 AM	Thank you both! Jerry, I very much enjoyed your Cormyr Military article.
Chloramantis 09-13-06, 11:41 AM	Specifically, most of the first two paragraphs in post #21 Chloramantis got from the article "Military Forces of Cormyr" in the Candlekeep notebooks. (By the way, while I'm sure any author enjoys seeing his work used by others, it's generally good form to attribute the source when providing direct quotes!) Look at post 27 you Yahoo! Welcome, Bitterthorn.
Jerryd 09-13-06, 08:03 PM	Look at post 27 you Yahoo! Welcome, Bitterthorn.Despite there not being a smiley, I'll treat that 'you Yahoo' as good natured ribbing! ;) Since you've read the "Military Forces of Cormyr" article, you'll have seen that I'm big on annotating and quoting sources. It's something I'm a bit picky about. At the risk of being pedantic, post 27 was not an attribution. It just linked to a page that contains links to a whole bunch of articles and didn't specify which article on that page you were referring to, and in fact by suggesting that "Purple Dragons" and "War Wizards" be looked for you were directing him away from the desired article, which contains none of those specific keywords. An attribution needs to include the name of the specific work, the name of the author(s), and where that work can be found at - a web URL for an internet article, or for a physical work the publisher, an ISBN, or perhaps a link to the work at Amazon.com. This is, of course, intended to be taken with the same good nature as I took your comment! While I am picky and perhaps pedantic, I'm not angry or offended! :)
Chloramantis 09-15-06, 01:07 AM	Despite there not being a smiley, I'll treat that 'you Yahoo' as good natured ribbing! ;) Since you've read the "Military Forces of Cormyr" article, you'll have seen that I'm big on annotating and quoting sources. It's something I'm a bit picky about. At the risk of being pedantic, post 27 was not an attribution. It just linked to a page that contains links to a whole bunch of articles and didn't specify which article on that page you were referring to, and in fact by suggesting that "Purple Dragons" and "War Wizards" be looked for you were directing him away from the desired article, which contains none of those specific keywords. An attribution needs to include the name of the specific work, the name of the author(s), and where that work can be found at - a web URL for an internet article, or for a physical work the publisher, an ISBN, or perhaps a link to the work at Amazon.com. This is, of course, intended to be taken with the same good nature as I took your comment! While I am picky and perhaps pedantic, I'm not angry or offended! :) You're kidding right! Oh, I get it, you're mad because you wrote that. It took me a bit. You did a very good job, but it needs to be updated, no.
Jerryd 09-15-06, 09:45 PM	I'm neither kidding nor mad. If I say I'm "not angry or offended", you can take me at my word! :) And yes, the article does need some updating. Originally, I wrote it to be valid as of 1 Mirtul 1369 (i.e. as of 2nd Ed. AD&D and the beginning of Cormyr: A Novel) because that's where the most and best information was. The Cormyr trilogy of novels put Cormyr through a wringer and inflicted many changes on the status of Cormyr's military, but the novels only dealt in generalities and no numbers or specifics were to be had. (i.e. how many casualties were suffered in the Dragon War, how were the Dragons redeployed afterward, etc.) There still isn't much good information on that, except a quote from Ed on the Candlekeep boards about there being about 12,000 Purple Dragons as of a few years after the end of the war but little more detail than that. Still, there are a few tidbits here and there I can add that I've gleaned from more recent novels and sourcebooks, and the War Wizard chapter still needs finishing. It's on my list of things to do. [sigh] That list is longer than my arm and ever-growing.
Chloramantis 09-16-06, 07:03 PM	I'm neither kidding nor mad. If I say I'm "not angry or offended", you can take me at my word! :) And yes, the article does need some updating. Originally, I wrote it to be valid as of 1 Mirtul 1369 (i.e. as of 2nd Ed. AD&D and the beginning of Cormyr: A Novel) because that's where the most and best information was. The Cormyr trilogy of novels put Cormyr through a wringer and inflicted many changes on the status of Cormyr's military, but the novels only dealt in generalities and no numbers or specifics were to be had. (i.e. how many casualties were suffered in the Dragon War, how were the Dragons redeployed afterward, etc.) There still isn't much good information on that, except a quote from Ed on the Candlekeep boards about there being about 12,000 Purple Dragons as of a few years after the end of the war but little more detail than that. Still, there are a few tidbits here and there I can add that I've gleaned from more recent novels and sourcebooks, and the War Wizard chapter still needs finishing. It's on my list of things to do. [sigh] That list is longer than my arm and ever-growing. Ya know what, for what it's worth, your write-up on the Purple Dragons IS awesome. I tried to do the same thing, but it wasn't as in-depth. I have some god ideas though, if interested?
bitter thorn 09-18-06, 03:23 AM	Well now that we have that sorted out.....;) If/when a determined, well financed, well led expeditionary force blessed by the crown establishes a stronghold in the Stonelands, what is the likely response from say: A) the Shades? This is my primary concern. I don't think the Shades would nuke the site from orbit (so to speak), but I imagine that they would provide covert support to the goblins and other savage races in the area. I'm operating on the premise that the city of Shade is not activley seeking open and total war with Cormyr and presumably the Choosen. B) the Zehnts? Would covert action against Cormyrs fontier outpost violate the terms of thier agreement with Blackstaff? Would there be a profit motive to act in opposition to this move by Cormyr? C) the various other geopolitical players? The Lords Alliance? The Dales Council. The Harpers? The Moonstars? The Red Wizards? The Elves? The Bedine? The Tunland barbarians? The Freedom Riders? Sundry churches? The political groundwork has been laid in '72-'73. In game play will happen in '73 and '74. We have some timeline flexability for delay. APL is ~ 15th level. PC's are politically and militarily astute.
bitter thorn 09-18-06, 07:06 AM	I take it I won't run afoul of the CoC if I quote (C&P) one of Eds responses from Candlekeep. Right?
Chloramantis 09-18-06, 11:19 AM	Well now that we have that sorted out.....;) If/when a determined, well financed, well led expeditionary force blessed by the crown establishes a stronghold in the Stonelands, what is the likely response from say: A) the Shades? This is my primary concern. I don't think the Shades would nuke the site from orbit (so to speak), but I imagine that they would provide covert support to the goblins and other savage races in the area. I'm operating on the premise that the city of Shade is not activley seeking open and total war with Cormyr and presumably the Choosen. B) the Zehnts? Would covert action against Cormyrs fontier outpost violate the terms of thier agreement with Blackstaff? Would there be a profit motive to act in opposition to this move by Cormyr? C) the various other geopolitical players? The Lords Alliance? The Dales Council. The Harpers? The Moonstars? The Red Wizards? The Elves? The Bedine? The Tunland barbarians? The Freedom Riders? Sundry churches? The political groundwork has been laid in '72-'73. In game play will happen in '73 and '74. We have some timeline flexability for delay. APL is ~ 15th level. PC's are politically and militarily astute. A) Shade- Definitely the primary concern! Shade will definitely send (or maybe already has) an expedition into the the Stonelands to seek out ancient Netherese strongholds. Shade and Cormyr are on bad terms right now and each other will probably attack onsite. Total war would be bad for both nations. The legitamacy of the Stonelands belonging to Cormyr may not be too strong, so a Cormyrian stronghold right smack dab in the middle of the Stonelands may be just what they need. That's another thing, Location in the Stonelands, we need to see a map for the proposed sight. B) Zhentarim- The Zhents (as in Fzoul's Zhents) should remain out of the picture. What you have to worry about is the Zhents from Darkhold and the the western branch of Cyricist Zhentilar. This shouldn't be much of a problem for the Eastern and Western Zhents don't trade with each other as much as they used to. I'm guessing that the western Zhent cities are basically cut off from Fzoul's Zhents and are in alliance with Darkhold. But, knowing the Cyricist's and a little something that happened in Blackstaff, Fzoul will become more involved with the Western Zhents. C) The Lords Alliance? The Dales Council? The Harpers? The Moonstars? The Red Wizards? The Elves? The Bedine? The Tunland barbarians? The Freedom Riders? Sundry churches?- Good Question? I believe these organizations will not, or could not, have a say in a Cormyrian Stronghold in the Stonelands. I don't believe the Bedine or the elves or the Tunlar have anything to do with the Stonelands, just surrounding environs. They may in fact benefit from a stonghold to control trade through the area. I don't know anything for sure, but a strong Cormyrian stronghold, protecting a trade route from east to west would be a great thing? Ah ha, that's it two strongholds with various checkpoints along the way to ensure safety from bandits and goblins will benefit everyone. For a fee of course! once again I need to look at a map. I'll get back to you. Also, You should have a follower of Shaundakul in your party. There are many ancient shrines to Shaundakul in the Stonelands. Maybe the stronghold could also be a temple dedicated to the protector of traders.
Old Sage 09-18-06, 11:40 AM	I take it I won't run afoul of the CoC if I quote (C&P) one of Eds responses from Candlekeep. Right?No, you won't. I do it all the time. Just note where you've taken the quote from and that it's part of Ed Candlekeep replies.
bitter thorn 09-19-06, 01:45 AM	Cool. I thought that would be kosher. To that end........ Ed replies: Kaysae, you’re very welcome! I hope you enjoy the Realms (upcoming surprises and all) for years to come! As for the Stonelands: you’ve quite correctly identified the stemming-the-tide benefits of taming that region for the rulers of Cormyr. And, yes, the offer of a barony IS a ruse to give adventurers something useful to the kingdom (as opposed to mischief intended to line their own purses, that gives the realm headaches) to do, and of course to weaken the everpresent monsters, Zhents, and suchlike so as to minimize their raids down into “Cormyr proper.” Yes, it IS an impossible task, given the “breakneck” terrain (endless knife-edged stone ridges, with precipitous-sided ravines between them) that prevents the building of roads and large settlements, the making of accurate maps and the movement of armies... and so on. However, there ARE lots of resources in the Stonelands: veins of metal ores and gems, rare herbs and plants that are either succulently edible or that serve in the making of scents, cosmetics, drugs, and dyes, some timber (hard to get out, yes, but there nonetheless), and of course the aforementioned monster life (edible meats, eggs that have a market value, hides and other “body part” alchemical components, a market for live caged beasts, and so on, again). Not to mention large caches of well-hidden treasure (cut gems, coins, statuettes of ivory, jade, jet, and even solid sapphire, ruby, or emerald, and even magic items) stashed in various spots in the Stonelands (such as cavern strongholds that could serve ably as homes or hideouts for adventuring bands). So it’s territory worth venturing into for some adventurers, but land I’ll never expect to see truly tamed and added to “everyday rural Cormyr.” So saith Ed, describing our old stomping grounds. Ed forgot to mention one treasure we Knights found there: an extremely angry drow priestess (of Lolth) who’d been captured by the Zhents, flogged until she was raw, tied spreadeagled between two trees, and left hanging there in the sun, day after day, to die and serve as a warning and way-marker. Some day I’ll tell the tale of our rescue of her (Torm was VERY affectionate to her), and of her response (which led to one of the weirdest adventures we ever had). We also had some quite different fun, once: we came upon a Zhent messenger resting, with his foulwing steed grounded. We overcame him, questioned him, relieved him of his magic items and coins, tied him into his saddle, enspelled his steed - - and made it fly full-tilt into a rock pinnacle (splat). Torm called it “our improved Zhent warning and way-marker.” love to all, THO P.S. Yes, of course that led to some heated moral debates within the party. Penances were arranged, apologies made, and we agreed never to do such a thing again. (By "the next time," of course, Torm had thought up something far nastier.)
Jerryd 09-19-06, 10:52 PM	Ya know what, for what it's worth, your write-up on the Purple Dragons IS awesome.Thanks!I tried to do the same thing, but it wasn't as in-depth. I have some god ideas though, if interested?Other than the minor updates I've mentioned, I'm fairly satisfied with the Purple Dragons write-up as is. About the only new material needed is the stuff from Power of Faerun - a slight renaming of a couple of ranks, and adding some mention of the medals/awards given. I probably won't do much more than that with the Dragons until significantly more up-to-date published information is available. My main effort now, whenever I get to it, needs to go into the War Wizards.
BrianCritchley 09-20-06, 02:26 AM	over all I REALLY wanna see an updated cormyr. especially as I imagine since the war, (and the acabuss affair) there's been considerable changes in the way the nobility are. I'm sure that the fortunes of some noble houses have risen in stock due to the war. and I'm sure just as much some noble houses have been nearly devestatyed by the war. it'd be REALLY REALLY intresting to get an indepth book exploreing the fallout. or barring that maybe a series of realms lore articles from Ed.
bitter thorn 09-20-06, 03:03 AM	Thanks!Other than the minor updates I've mentioned, I'm fairly satisfied with the Purple Dragons write-up as is. About the only new material needed is the stuff from Power of Faerun - a slight renaming of a couple of ranks, and adding some mention of the medals/awards given. I probably won't do much more than that with the Dragons until significantly more up-to-date published information is available. My main effort now, whenever I get to it, needs to go into the War Wizards. I look forward to it!
Chloramantis 09-21-06, 10:57 AM	Hey Bitterthorn, if you are still thinking about the Stonelands, here's another idea. Within the Purple Dragons there are many different types of warriors, you have knights, cavalary (air and ground forces), archers, infantry, artillery, and so on. Purple Dragons in the Cormyrian Navy are called the Blue Dragons, I think they're offical. I also created the Green Dragons, a Marine type of Purple Dragons. I always thought of Cormyr being like England or the UK. So I also created a few regiments of Purple Dragons specifically for the exploration an settling of the Stonelands. While I base the Purple Dragons as a whole on British Regiments of the Great War, I created Highlander Regiments, probably out of High Horn, to purge the Stonelands. What I really wanted to do was form a regiment from each city or town in Cormyr (I have a list of every town and city if needed) and give them a British-like name, but it takes a lot of time. Anyways, use it if you want, read up on the Highlanders of Scotland during the Great War or just in general, they have pretty cool names. While I didn't finish work on the infantry regiments of Cormyr, I did do a bit of work on the cavalry. I created the following cavalry regiments below (it's abit messed up because of Excel). Household Cavalry The Royals and Blues * 1st (King Azoun's Own Royal) Life Guards (The Royals) * 2nd (Queen Filfaeril's Own Royal) Life Guards (The Royals) * 3rd (Princess Alusair's Own Royal) Life Guards (The Royals) * 4th (Lord Truesilver's Own) Royal Horse Guards (The Blues) * 5th (Lord Crownsilver's Own) Royal Horse Guards (The Blues) * 6th (Lord Huntsilver's Own) Royal Horse Guards (The Blues) Heavy Cavalry * 1st (The King's Own Royal) Dragoon Guards * 2nd (The Queen's Own Royal) Dragoon Guards * 3rd (The Princess's Own Royal) Dragoon Guards * 4th (The Lord High Marshal's Own Royal) Dragoon Guards * 5th (The Warden of the Western Marches' Own Royal) Dragoon Guards * 6th (The Warden of the Eastern Marches' Own Royal) Dragoon Guards Light Cavalry * 1st (Royal Cormyr) Dragoons (The Greys) * 2nd (Royal) Dragoons (The Greys) * 3rd (Cormyr) Dragoons (The Greys) * 4th (Royal Cormyr) Dragoons * 5th (Royal) Dragoons * 6th (Cormyr) Dragoons * 7th (Royal Cormyr) Lancers * 8th (Royal) Lancers * 9th (Cormyr) Lancers * 10th (King's Royal) Lancers * 11th (Queen's Royal) Lancers * 12th (Princess's Royal) Lancers * 13th (King's Own Royal) Hussars * 14th (King's Own) Hussars * 15th (King's Royal) Hussars * 16th (King's) Hussars * 17th (Queen's Own Royal) Hussars * 18th (Queen's Own) Hussars * 19th (Queen's Royal) Hussars * 20th (Queen's) Hussars * 21st (Princess's Own Royal) Hussars * 22nd (Princess's Own) Hussars * 23rd (Princess's Royal) Hussars * 24th (Princess's) Hussars Heavy 1st LG 2nd LG 3rd LG 4th RHG 5th RHG 6th RHG Medium 1st DG 2nd DG 3rd DG 4th DG 5th DG 6th DG Light 1st D 2nd D 3rd D 4th D 5th D 6th D 7th L 8th L 9th L 10th L 11th L 12th L 13th H 17th H 21st H 14th H 18th H 22nd H 15th H 19th H 23rd H 16th H 20th H 24th H
bitter thorn 03-21-07, 06:25 AM	Well now that we have that sorted out.....;) If/when a determined, well financed, well led expeditionary force blessed by the crown establishes a stronghold in the Stonelands, what is the likely response from say: A) the Shades? This is my primary concern. I don't think the Shades would nuke the site from orbit (so to speak), but I imagine that they would provide covert support to the goblins and other savage races in the area. I'm operating on the premise that the city of Shade is not activley seeking open and total war with Cormyr and presumably the Choosen. B) the Zehnts? Would covert action against Cormyrs fontier outpost violate the terms of thier agreement with Blackstaff? Would there be a profit motive to act in opposition to this move by Cormyr? C) the various other geopolitical players? The Lords Alliance? The Dales Council. The Harpers? The Moonstars? The Red Wizards? The Elves? The Bedine? The Tunland barbarians? The Freedom Riders? Sundry churches? The political groundwork has been laid in '72-'73. In game play will happen in '73 and '74. We have some timeline flexability for delay. APL is ~ 15th level. PC's are politically and militarily astute. Anyone else?