tea, coffe and so in Faerun? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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daphne
06-23-04, 05:42 AM do tea and coffee or similar drinks exist in Faerun?
and what about food? do all vegetables/cereals/whatnot we know of (and eat, or nowadays use as a base) exist as well?

thanks all, dap
Alac Luin
06-23-04, 11:28 AM Originally posted by daphne
do tea and coffee or similar drinks exist in Faerun?

Yes, they do. Coffee is from Zakharra and other places in south Faerun, Tea is from Kara-Tur.
I would also imagine there are other steeped drinks from various Herbs and plants.

[i]and what about food? do all vegetables/cereals/whatnot we know of (and eat, or nowadays use as a base) exist as well?

Basically, yes, sort of. Tomatos are a recent import from Meztica, but the grains and barlies are common and similar enough.
Well, the term "cereals" I'm takeing to meen oats and such, as "Frosted Flakes" probobly dont exist.

Fruits are also very real world like, but different variaties do exist.
Like larger apples, grapes of "odd" shades and such(like blue).
Becouse of another thread, I'm working on consolidateing a list from the source books I have.
Faraer
06-23-04, 01:51 PM Tea-tea and coffee technically exist in Faerūn, but they're not common drinks like herb, berry, or root (e.g. bitterroot) tea, mintwater, ale, beer, stout, cider, mead, wine, brandy, etc.

Vegetables (sometimes called 'fieldings') and fruit are similar to those of Europe, mixed with some American ones and others, but not identical: so apples, pears, gooseberries are there, but also flamefruit, hornapples, etc. As for cereals, certainly wheat and barley, millet less common, maize barely known (only from Maztica).
daphne
06-23-04, 03:53 PM thanks both. that was enlightening.

btw, with 'cereals' i dont mean kellog's frosties or honey nut loops, but oat and corn and wheat and barley, and so on. :]
Alac Luin
06-24-04, 11:32 AM Thats what I thought you ment :)
As Faraer said, specifically about corn (aka maize), is not widely known, as it is a recent import from Meztica (along with tomatos and chocolate)
daphne
06-24-04, 12:23 PM so, it just is like Europe was during late middle-age (let's say a few decades after 1492). again, thanks all.
Faraer
06-24-04, 12:36 PM No, it isn't. It has a lot in common, so that players have a point of reference and don't keep asking 'what's a juirfruit?', but also differences and the flora of the Realms is ultimately the flora of the Realms. Ed designed the setting that way to keep players from complacency, enticing them to investigate and immerse themselves in the world, rather than assume they know already what it's like.

But since this information doesn't exist all together except in Ed's head, certainly as a DM you can go ahead and use European flora and fauna and make a few additions and subtractions for fun, texture and to keep players on their toes.
Alac Luin
06-24-04, 12:43 PM I'll post this, I have not had time to place these random notes into a easily useable format, but perhaps it will help.

FruitsandPlants
In addition, the Realms possesses more than a few apparently unique types of trees. These include: beetle palm, blueleaf, calantra, chime oak, duskwood, felsul, hiexel, laspar,
phandar, roseneedle pine, shadowtop, silverbark, suth, vundwood, weirwood, and zalantar.

Beetle Palm: a small cluster of soft-rinded, smooth, black, bitter-tasting nuts the size and general shape of plums grow under the fronds, dropping off once a year after the first snowfall.

(cherries, plums, quinces, gooseberries)

The wine comes from a shriveled variety of grape that grows on twisted vines, grapes said to be possessed by the dead who enacted petty cruelties upon others while they lived.

Shield mosses: bright blue-green moss from Mornbryn’s Shield, used in hair dyes, and dried and eaten in Waterdeep, Calimshan and Tethyr

dunroot, brambleberry jam and green quimble-fruit preserves.
…..
garshells

Snowberries, rock moss, juniper tips,

Flamefruit, similar to Apricots

Elminster says: The greenheart is a large green-skinned cooking apple. Ye would use a Granny Smith, though a greenheart.s tarter.

Snowbread: Elminster says this is a sweet bread made with lots of molasses and nuts. The .snow. in the name refers to the sugar, flour, and egg-white sauce that is brushed or poured all over the loaves to give them a hard white coating. It is served sliced and cold or sometimes with a hot sweet sauce drizzled over finger loaves or slices from a larger loaf.

Catsheads, are huge green apples that were once favored in the markets of Suzail.

Stelk, a cabbagelike shrub grown in Hilp as fish bait since all aquatic life seems to love its taste, proved to neutralize the discharges of eels that had eaten it for seven days or so.

Elminster says everry is a bush whose berries very much resemble what we call allspice.

firefruit

Stelk is a shrub about the size of a large man.s fist and looks like a cluster of tiny brown or bronze cabbage heads. It is an oily, bitter, skunky plant according to the few humans who.ve tried it, though a few dwarf families have a frybread recipe that uses it.

3Pixie cap mushrooms (sometimes known as fairy cap mushrooms) melt on the tongue and taste like buttery, non-bitter walnuts. Sun-dried specimens sell for as much as 50 gp each to gourmands and gourmets.

Hedgehog shrieker fur. (The .fur. is now gaining favor as a dessert garnish on nobles. tables. A little spread on a biscuit is a delightful treat.)

Sharrada are long-horned, hardy beef cattle covered with shaggy fur. They can survive in harsher cold than

Listed as spices. Bentilan berries are worth 2 sp per pound; the short-lived ateris buds bring only about 3 cp a pound.

Deadeye Butter, also made from catoblepas milk.

to a common and delicious mushroom, the relshar, that can be harvested by the cartload by those who know where to look. Ferns and fiddleheads can also be gleaned from the Yevenwood.

black wrinkle Dale mushrooms.
Volo: I can only describe them as tasting like smoked corn, that is, roast corn kernels that have acquired a strong smoky taste.

Saveloy is dried, highly spiced pigs brains sausage! Just eat it, enjoy, and do not think about what is inside it.

grus-grus orchards grow throughout the Dale (Harrowdale)
rizzard
07-15-04, 02:42 PM actually the CHautean monks of the monastary at berdusk have gained much fame for their coffe and fudge and has become quite popular in the west, according to the 2e marco volo trilogy
warlockco
07-16-04, 01:01 AM Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue if you can find it has a very nice listing of foods and drinks. Just have to work on the prices a fair bit as this is a 2E accessory and money has changed quite a bit.
riceisnice
07-16-04, 01:23 AM Are there potatoes in Faerun? 'Cause historically I think those came from the Andes Mountains, so as a Realms analogue are they a recent import?
warlockco
07-16-04, 01:28 AM Originally posted by riceisnice
Are there potatoes in Faerun? 'Cause historically I think those came from the Andes Mountains, so as a Realms analogue are they a recent import?

From Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue:
Potato: Far superior to the northern root that bears the same name, the Maztican potato (or batata) is larger, firmer, and stores better. Trial plantings indicate the plant grows well in poor conditions, an asset for every farmer with small acreage.
Oakraven
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daphne 06-23-04, 05:42 AM	do tea and coffee or similar drinks exist in Faerun? and what about food? do all vegetables/cereals/whatnot we know of (and eat, or nowadays use as a base) exist as well? thanks all, dap
Alac Luin 06-23-04, 11:28 AM	Originally posted by daphne do tea and coffee or similar drinks exist in Faerun? Yes, they do. Coffee is from Zakharra and other places in south Faerun, Tea is from Kara-Tur. I would also imagine there are other steeped drinks from various Herbs and plants. [i]and what about food? do all vegetables/cereals/whatnot we know of (and eat, or nowadays use as a base) exist as well? Basically, yes, sort of. Tomatos are a recent import from Meztica, but the grains and barlies are common and similar enough. Well, the term "cereals" I'm takeing to meen oats and such, as "Frosted Flakes" probobly dont exist. Fruits are also very real world like, but different variaties do exist. Like larger apples, grapes of "odd" shades and such(like blue). Becouse of another thread, I'm working on consolidateing a list from the source books I have.
Faraer 06-23-04, 01:51 PM	Tea-tea and coffee technically exist in Faerūn, but they're not common drinks like herb, berry, or root (e.g. bitterroot) tea, mintwater, ale, beer, stout, cider, mead, wine, brandy, etc. Vegetables (sometimes called 'fieldings') and fruit are similar to those of Europe, mixed with some American ones and others, but not identical: so apples, pears, gooseberries are there, but also flamefruit, hornapples, etc. As for cereals, certainly wheat and barley, millet less common, maize barely known (only from Maztica).
daphne 06-23-04, 03:53 PM	thanks both. that was enlightening. btw, with 'cereals' i dont mean kellog's frosties or honey nut loops, but oat and corn and wheat and barley, and so on. :]
Alac Luin 06-24-04, 11:32 AM	Thats what I thought you ment :) As Faraer said, specifically about corn (aka maize), is not widely known, as it is a recent import from Meztica (along with tomatos and chocolate)
daphne 06-24-04, 12:23 PM	so, it just is like Europe was during late middle-age (let's say a few decades after 1492). again, thanks all.
Faraer 06-24-04, 12:36 PM	No, it isn't. It has a lot in common, so that players have a point of reference and don't keep asking 'what's a juirfruit?', but also differences and the flora of the Realms is ultimately the flora of the Realms. Ed designed the setting that way to keep players from complacency, enticing them to investigate and immerse themselves in the world, rather than assume they know already what it's like. But since this information doesn't exist all together except in Ed's head, certainly as a DM you can go ahead and use European flora and fauna and make a few additions and subtractions for fun, texture and to keep players on their toes.
Alac Luin 06-24-04, 12:43 PM	I'll post this, I have not had time to place these random notes into a easily useable format, but perhaps it will help. FruitsandPlants In addition, the Realms possesses more than a few apparently unique types of trees. These include: beetle palm, blueleaf, calantra, chime oak, duskwood, felsul, hiexel, laspar, phandar, roseneedle pine, shadowtop, silverbark, suth, vundwood, weirwood, and zalantar. Beetle Palm: a small cluster of soft-rinded, smooth, black, bitter-tasting nuts the size and general shape of plums grow under the fronds, dropping off once a year after the first snowfall. (cherries, plums, quinces, gooseberries) The wine comes from a shriveled variety of grape that grows on twisted vines, grapes said to be possessed by the dead who enacted petty cruelties upon others while they lived. Shield mosses: bright blue-green moss from Mornbryn’s Shield, used in hair dyes, and dried and eaten in Waterdeep, Calimshan and Tethyr dunroot, brambleberry jam and green quimble-fruit preserves. ….. garshells Snowberries, rock moss, juniper tips, Flamefruit, similar to Apricots Elminster says: The greenheart is a large green-skinned cooking apple. Ye would use a Granny Smith, though a greenheart.s tarter. Snowbread: Elminster says this is a sweet bread made with lots of molasses and nuts. The .snow. in the name refers to the sugar, flour, and egg-white sauce that is brushed or poured all over the loaves to give them a hard white coating. It is served sliced and cold or sometimes with a hot sweet sauce drizzled over finger loaves or slices from a larger loaf. Catsheads, are huge green apples that were once favored in the markets of Suzail. Stelk, a cabbagelike shrub grown in Hilp as fish bait since all aquatic life seems to love its taste, proved to neutralize the discharges of eels that had eaten it for seven days or so. Elminster says everry is a bush whose berries very much resemble what we call allspice. firefruit Stelk is a shrub about the size of a large man.s fist and looks like a cluster of tiny brown or bronze cabbage heads. It is an oily, bitter, skunky plant according to the few humans who.ve tried it, though a few dwarf families have a frybread recipe that uses it. 3Pixie cap mushrooms (sometimes known as fairy cap mushrooms) melt on the tongue and taste like buttery, non-bitter walnuts. Sun-dried specimens sell for as much as 50 gp each to gourmands and gourmets. Hedgehog shrieker fur. (The .fur. is now gaining favor as a dessert garnish on nobles. tables. A little spread on a biscuit is a delightful treat.) Sharrada are long-horned, hardy beef cattle covered with shaggy fur. They can survive in harsher cold than Listed as spices. Bentilan berries are worth 2 sp per pound; the short-lived ateris buds bring only about 3 cp a pound. Deadeye Butter, also made from catoblepas milk. to a common and delicious mushroom, the relshar, that can be harvested by the cartload by those who know where to look. Ferns and fiddleheads can also be gleaned from the Yevenwood. black wrinkle Dale mushrooms. Volo: I can only describe them as tasting like smoked corn, that is, roast corn kernels that have acquired a strong smoky taste. Saveloy is dried, highly spiced pigs brains sausage! Just eat it, enjoy, and do not think about what is inside it. grus-grus orchards grow throughout the Dale (Harrowdale)
rizzard 07-15-04, 02:42 PM	actually the CHautean monks of the monastary at berdusk have gained much fame for their coffe and fudge and has become quite popular in the west, according to the 2e marco volo trilogy
warlockco 07-16-04, 01:01 AM	Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue if you can find it has a very nice listing of foods and drinks. Just have to work on the prices a fair bit as this is a 2E accessory and money has changed quite a bit.
riceisnice 07-16-04, 01:23 AM	Are there potatoes in Faerun? 'Cause historically I think those came from the Andes Mountains, so as a Realms analogue are they a recent import?
warlockco 07-16-04, 01:28 AM	Originally posted by riceisnice Are there potatoes in Faerun? 'Cause historically I think those came from the Andes Mountains, so as a Realms analogue are they a recent import? From Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue: Potato: Far superior to the northern root that bears the same name, the Maztican potato (or batata) is larger, firmer, and stores better. Trial plantings indicate the plant grows well in poor conditions, an asset for every farmer with small acreage.
Oakraven 07-16-04, 01:56 AM	GAAA Sorry about the premature posting
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