The Forgotten Realms Novels & the 4th Edition [Archive] - Wizards Community

The Forgotten Realms Novels & the 4th Edition [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SCOUT1IDF
02-23-08, 03:27 AM Please bear with me, this is my first thread.
I have never played useing the Forgotten Realms format, but I love reading the books & novels.
My Question is, will the change to the 4th edition in the games change the books & novels?
I still have a lot of books to read, but I don't want "my world" to change just because the game is changing.
Does anyone else feel the same way?

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Green Elven Vampire
02-23-08, 08:21 AM Please bear with me, this is my first thread.
I have never played useing the Forgotten Realms format, but I love reading the books & novels.
My Question is, will the change to the 4th edition in the games change the books & novels?
I still have a lot of books to read, but I don't want "my world" to change just because the game is changing.
Does anyone else feel the same way?

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Yes the novels will be changing as well. So 4ED will change your world.
Lord Karsus
02-23-08, 10:52 AM -After 4e debuts, the novel line will follow the timeline increase.
SCOUT1IDF
02-23-08, 12:11 PM That wasn't the answer I was hoping for, but thanks.
At least I still have the old books too read.

:mad: :censored:4th EDITION :elf:
carnasus
02-23-08, 12:33 PM -After 4e debuts, the novel line will follow the timeline increase.

And in them Uber characters will be introduced. With some players wanting them to come in and save the day...
Lord Karsus
02-23-08, 12:46 PM -Indeed.

-Did I ever mention how I hate when people use the term 'uber', in reference to something powerful?
Lykor
02-23-08, 08:35 PM Since they mention that the primary reason for the new Realms was the authors, it makes sense that they are going to advance the timeline as well. Going from past indications (not exactly something that is easy to do at present) I seriously doubt that there are going to be any novels set in the past or in the "Classic" Realms.

They have also more-or-less confirmed the following:
-There will continue to be RSEs
-Cyric is coming back before long

And, again given past history, I expect to see a few good novels (by our old Realms favorites that stick around) and a lot of crappy novels filled with bizarre or inconsistant lore.
Faraer
02-23-08, 09:46 PM -Did I ever mention how I hate when people use the term 'uber', in reference to something powerful?Tell me about it. First, it's an error for über. Then, half the time they don't even know it's largely from Übermensch, and are thus blindly making a grotesquely tasteless reference to philosophy that fed into the Third Reich.
Lord Karsus
02-23-08, 10:39 PM Tell me about it. First, it's an error for über. Then, half the time they don't even know it's largely from Übermensch, and are thus blindly making a grotesquely tasteless reference to philosophy that fed into the Third Reich.

-Ignorance knows no bounds...(Not referring to anyone in particular, just the subculture that has appropriated the term 'uber' into it's vernacular in general)
GothicDan
02-23-08, 10:46 PM I actually sort of like the idea of the Ubermensch. I've only read excerpts from "A Will to Power," but one of those excerpts describes my perfect ideal of a relationship, romantically.

Granted, I love Nietzsche. And I love the fact that he hated the Nazis. It's a travesty that his manuscripts were so altered and then used by them for propaganda.
Jiggawha
02-24-08, 03:54 AM nationalists, not nazis
Kenzuki
02-24-08, 07:14 AM God is Dead - Nietzsche........^(^_^)>

*years later*

Nietzsche is dead. - God......<(X_x)>
GothicDan
02-24-08, 10:21 AM Real mature, God.
Lord Karsus
02-24-08, 12:16 PM -Do you understand what Nietzsche meant when he said G-d is dead? (Not Dan, Ken)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
02-25-08, 02:41 PM They have also more-or-less confirmed the following:
-There will continue to be RSEs

To be fair, they've said that the novels will be easing up on the RSEs for a while. But that's a stated goal--we don't know how if things will change later.
Lord Karsus
02-25-08, 02:43 PM To be fair, they've said that the novels will be easing up on the RSEs for a while. But that's a stated goal--we don't know how if things will change later.

-An article concerning the 2e to 3e transition said the same thing- that the RSEs would ease up. Oops. :rolleyes:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
02-25-08, 03:06 PM -An article concerning the 2e to 3e transition said the same thing- that the RSEs would ease up. Oops. :rolleyes:

Indeed, stated goals are always subject to change...
ywhtptgtfo
02-25-08, 10:53 PM Indeed, stated goals are always subject to change... ... and they might take my idea and turn Karsus into the new goddess of magic --> Myssus
Lord Karsus
02-25-08, 10:57 PM ... and they might take my idea and turn Karsus into the new goddess of magic --> Myssus

:: Dies ::
Calabask
02-27-08, 04:55 PM RSEs?
Lord Karsus
02-27-08, 05:07 PM RSEs?

-Realm Shaking Events. An event in a novel/sourcebook that has widespread and lasting consequences on the setting as a whole.
Alediran
02-27-08, 05:10 PM -Realm Shaking Events. An event in a novel/sourcebook that has widespread and lasting consequences on the setting as a whole.

Usually written to se who among the FR novelist has the biggest pen.
Keldar
02-28-08, 03:28 AM -Realm Shaking Events. An event in a novel/sourcebook that has widespread and lasting consequences on the setting as a whole.
Only most of them don't impact the setting in any meaningful way, as other authors ignore them. :rolleyes:
Lord Karsus
02-28-08, 03:35 AM Only most of them don't impact the setting in any meaningful way, as other authors ignore them. :rolleyes:

-Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Boda
02-28-08, 11:27 AM So the plots of 3th edition wont be solved in novels before the spellplague?
Alediran
02-28-08, 11:29 AM So the plots of 3th edition wont be solved in novels before the spellplague?

That's the irony if it, yes. We'll know how they ended before reading the novels since the effects will be in the FRCG (Campaign Setting sound much better).
Lord Karsus
02-28-08, 04:52 PM So the plots of 3th edition wont be solved in novels before the spellplague?

-All of them? No.

-Third-Edition Forgotten Realms is already over, as there are no sourcebooks or anything slated to be released between now and the debut of 4e. So, what you see is what you've got.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SCOUT1IDF 02-23-08, 03:27 AM	Please bear with me, this is my first thread. I have never played useing the Forgotten Realms format, but I love reading the books & novels. My Question is, will the change to the 4th edition in the games change the books & novels? I still have a lot of books to read, but I don't want "my world" to change just because the game is changing. Does anyone else feel the same way? ****************************************
Green Elven Vampire 02-23-08, 08:21 AM	Please bear with me, this is my first thread. I have never played useing the Forgotten Realms format, but I love reading the books & novels. My Question is, will the change to the 4th edition in the games change the books & novels? I still have a lot of books to read, but I don't want "my world" to change just because the game is changing. Does anyone else feel the same way? **************************************** Yes the novels will be changing as well. So 4ED will change your world.
Lord Karsus 02-23-08, 10:52 AM	-After 4e debuts, the novel line will follow the timeline increase.
SCOUT1IDF 02-23-08, 12:11 PM	That wasn't the answer I was hoping for, but thanks. At least I still have the old books too read. :mad: :censored:4th EDITION :elf:
carnasus 02-23-08, 12:33 PM	-After 4e debuts, the novel line will follow the timeline increase. And in them Uber characters will be introduced. With some players wanting them to come in and save the day...
Lord Karsus 02-23-08, 12:46 PM	-Indeed. -Did I ever mention how I hate when people use the term 'uber', in reference to something powerful?
Lykor 02-23-08, 08:35 PM	Since they mention that the primary reason for the new Realms was the authors, it makes sense that they are going to advance the timeline as well. Going from past indications (not exactly something that is easy to do at present) I seriously doubt that there are going to be any novels set in the past or in the "Classic" Realms. They have also more-or-less confirmed the following: -There will continue to be RSEs -Cyric is coming back before long And, again given past history, I expect to see a few good novels (by our old Realms favorites that stick around) and a lot of crappy novels filled with bizarre or inconsistant lore.
Faraer 02-23-08, 09:46 PM	-Did I ever mention how I hate when people use the term 'uber', in reference to something powerful?Tell me about it. First, it's an error for über. Then, half the time they don't even know it's largely from Übermensch, and are thus blindly making a grotesquely tasteless reference to philosophy that fed into the Third Reich.
Lord Karsus 02-23-08, 10:39 PM	Tell me about it. First, it's an error for über. Then, half the time they don't even know it's largely from Übermensch, and are thus blindly making a grotesquely tasteless reference to philosophy that fed into the Third Reich. -Ignorance knows no bounds...(Not referring to anyone in particular, just the subculture that has appropriated the term 'uber' into it's vernacular in general)
GothicDan 02-23-08, 10:46 PM	I actually sort of like the idea of the Ubermensch. I've only read excerpts from "A Will to Power," but one of those excerpts describes my perfect ideal of a relationship, romantically. Granted, I love Nietzsche. And I love the fact that he hated the Nazis. It's a travesty that his manuscripts were so altered and then used by them for propaganda.
Jiggawha 02-24-08, 03:54 AM	nationalists, not nazis
Kenzuki 02-24-08, 07:14 AM	God is Dead - Nietzsche........^(^_^)> years later Nietzsche is dead. - God......<(X_x)>
GothicDan 02-24-08, 10:21 AM	Real mature, God.
Lord Karsus 02-24-08, 12:16 PM	-Do you understand what Nietzsche meant when he said G-d is dead? (Not Dan, Ken)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 02-25-08, 02:41 PM	They have also more-or-less confirmed the following: -There will continue to be RSEs To be fair, they've said that the novels will be easing up on the RSEs for a while. But that's a stated goal--we don't know how if things will change later.
Lord Karsus 02-25-08, 02:43 PM	To be fair, they've said that the novels will be easing up on the RSEs for a while. But that's a stated goal--we don't know how if things will change later. -An article concerning the 2e to 3e transition said the same thing- that the RSEs would ease up. Oops. :rolleyes:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 02-25-08, 03:06 PM	-An article concerning the 2e to 3e transition said the same thing- that the RSEs would ease up. Oops. :rolleyes: Indeed, stated goals are always subject to change...
ywhtptgtfo 02-25-08, 10:53 PM	Indeed, stated goals are always subject to change... ... and they might take my idea and turn Karsus into the new goddess of magic --> Myssus
Lord Karsus 02-25-08, 10:57 PM	... and they might take my idea and turn Karsus into the new goddess of magic --> Myssus :: Dies ::
Calabask 02-27-08, 04:55 PM	RSEs?
Lord Karsus 02-27-08, 05:07 PM	RSEs? -Realm Shaking Events. An event in a novel/sourcebook that has widespread and lasting consequences on the setting as a whole.
Alediran 02-27-08, 05:10 PM	-Realm Shaking Events. An event in a novel/sourcebook that has widespread and lasting consequences on the setting as a whole. Usually written to se who among the FR novelist has the biggest pen.
Keldar 02-28-08, 03:28 AM	-Realm Shaking Events. An event in a novel/sourcebook that has widespread and lasting consequences on the setting as a whole. Only most of them don't impact the setting in any meaningful way, as other authors ignore them. :rolleyes:
Lord Karsus 02-28-08, 03:35 AM	Only most of them don't impact the setting in any meaningful way, as other authors ignore them. :rolleyes: -Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Boda 02-28-08, 11:27 AM	So the plots of 3th edition wont be solved in novels before the spellplague?
Alediran 02-28-08, 11:29 AM	So the plots of 3th edition wont be solved in novels before the spellplague? That's the irony if it, yes. We'll know how they ended before reading the novels since the effects will be in the FRCG (Campaign Setting sound much better).
Lord Karsus 02-28-08, 04:52 PM	So the plots of 3th edition wont be solved in novels before the spellplague? -All of them? No. -Third-Edition Forgotten Realms is already over, as there are no sourcebooks or anything slated to be released between now and the debut of 4e. So, what you see is what you've got.