The mindflayers used to have a god? [Archive] - Wizards Community

The mindflayers used to have a god? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Mushi
09-09-03, 02:33 PM I remember hearing somewhere that the mindflayers used to have a god but it died or something. If anyone could confirm there was a mindflayer god and tell me what was the story with it is I'd owe you one.
Herr Doktor
09-09-03, 02:53 PM Faerūnian mindflayers revere Ilsensine, their evil deity of knowledge, conquest, and mental power.

Ilsensine is not dead. He has few clerics amongst the various mindflayer conclaves, but those Illithids who do act as priests of this pile of green brain-matter tend to stand apart from others in the city.

For more info check out page 158 in the Lords of Darkness Supplement!
Mushi
09-09-03, 02:57 PM Thanks Herr
Green Giant
09-09-03, 04:09 PM Actually the Mind Flayers had another deity named Maanzecorian. He was an intermediate god of knowledge and philosophy who bit the big one and whose body is now floating in the Astral Plane. He was killed by Orcus/Tenebrous(?) in one of the Planescape deluxe adventure modules. Forgot its name.
Savras
09-09-03, 04:13 PM They had another god (forgot his name) but he was killed somehow.

I think Maanzakorian, but I might be mistaken.

Savras

Edit: Aha! I was right (wrong spelling, but it sounds the same).
*Feels good about himself*
Kuje31
09-09-03, 04:43 PM Originally posted by Green Giant
Actually the Mind Flayers had another deity named Maanzecorian. He was an intermediate god of knowledge and philosophy who bit the big one and whose body is now floating in the Astral Plane. He was killed by Orcus/Tenebrous(?) in one of the Planescape deluxe adventure modules. Forgot its name.

Dead Gods maybe? Or the Great Modron March?
Shemeska the Marauder
09-09-03, 08:52 PM It was in Dead Gods. Tenebrous / aka Orcus killed Manzicorian with the Last Word, a single magical phrase from the ruins on Pelion in Arborea. He was searching for his wand, hidden in Agathion by Kiaranselee after she slew him. His wand was needed to return him to his position as a diety, as his undead state was not enough to contain the power of the Last Word which if left unchecked was slowly devouring him from the inside.

Of course FR has gone on the little kick of ignoring the planes largely and giving themselves a unique cosmology. So everything Planescape and all of the history of the planes that went with it may or may not apply to 3e FR. A pity.

And some hints of this were in The Great Modron March, since Orcus had at that time used the Last Word to kill Primus and temporarily assume his position to use the March as a way of locating his wand. But the true roll of Orcus wasn't revealed till Dead Gods saw print.

Manzicorian had a domain within Gehenna, but with his death its slowly being subsumed back into the rest of the Furnace of Perdition.
Jareth Valar
09-10-03, 01:16 PM :D They do, he's called The Great Old One and he's imprisoned under the sea. We call him Cthulhu.:D :angel:

:P :P :ayyyy!:
:heehee

Jareth

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Mushi 09-09-03, 02:33 PM	I remember hearing somewhere that the mindflayers used to have a god but it died or something. If anyone could confirm there was a mindflayer god and tell me what was the story with it is I'd owe you one.
Herr Doktor 09-09-03, 02:53 PM	Faerūnian mindflayers revere Ilsensine, their evil deity of knowledge, conquest, and mental power. Ilsensine is not dead. He has few clerics amongst the various mindflayer conclaves, but those Illithids who do act as priests of this pile of green brain-matter tend to stand apart from others in the city. For more info check out page 158 in the Lords of Darkness Supplement!
Mushi 09-09-03, 02:57 PM	Thanks Herr
Green Giant 09-09-03, 04:09 PM	Actually the Mind Flayers had another deity named Maanzecorian. He was an intermediate god of knowledge and philosophy who bit the big one and whose body is now floating in the Astral Plane. He was killed by Orcus/Tenebrous(?) in one of the Planescape deluxe adventure modules. Forgot its name.
Savras 09-09-03, 04:13 PM	They had another god (forgot his name) but he was killed somehow. I think Maanzakorian, but I might be mistaken. Savras Edit: Aha! I was right (wrong spelling, but it sounds the same). Feels good about himself
Kuje31 09-09-03, 04:43 PM	Originally posted by Green Giant Actually the Mind Flayers had another deity named Maanzecorian. He was an intermediate god of knowledge and philosophy who bit the big one and whose body is now floating in the Astral Plane. He was killed by Orcus/Tenebrous(?) in one of the Planescape deluxe adventure modules. Forgot its name. Dead Gods maybe? Or the Great Modron March?
Shemeska the Marauder 09-09-03, 08:52 PM	It was in Dead Gods. Tenebrous / aka Orcus killed Manzicorian with the Last Word, a single magical phrase from the ruins on Pelion in Arborea. He was searching for his wand, hidden in Agathion by Kiaranselee after she slew him. His wand was needed to return him to his position as a diety, as his undead state was not enough to contain the power of the Last Word which if left unchecked was slowly devouring him from the inside. Of course FR has gone on the little kick of ignoring the planes largely and giving themselves a unique cosmology. So everything Planescape and all of the history of the planes that went with it may or may not apply to 3e FR. A pity. And some hints of this were in The Great Modron March, since Orcus had at that time used the Last Word to kill Primus and temporarily assume his position to use the March as a way of locating his wand. But the true roll of Orcus wasn't revealed till Dead Gods saw print. Manzicorian had a domain within Gehenna, but with his death its slowly being subsumed back into the rest of the Furnace of Perdition.
Jareth Valar 09-10-03, 01:16 PM	:D They do, he's called The Great Old One and he's imprisoned under the sea. We call him Cthulhu.:D :angel: :P :P :ayyyy!: :heehee Jareth