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Norhg 08-06-05, 03:07 PM	How do you incorporate the Time of Trouble in your games/character background? I'm asking because the Time of Troubles is recent history and I never seem to get it right. Example, most characters should remember it and almost everyone should have been affected by it yet I always fail to mention it in a satisfactory way. Anyone care to elaborate on how the Time of Troubles affects their games? [Sister Thread] (http://boards1.wizards.com/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=6890143)
macmatt20 08-06-05, 11:51 PM	The Time of Trouble sounds very interesting. Does anyone know what info is available for the time of trouble? I think it'd be fun to DM a game that takes place during this time period.
Kuje31 08-06-05, 11:54 PM	The Time of Trouble sounds very interesting. Does anyone know what info is available for the time of trouble? I think it'd be fun to DM a game that takes place during this time period. There's 3 novels that explain it, which are Shadowdale, Waterdeep, and Tantras. There's 3 modules of the same names. There's 2 novels that take place after it, which are Prince of Lies and Crucible - The Trial of Cyric the Mad. Ed Greenwood also had a trilogy that ties in with those events and those novels are: Shadows of Doom, Cloak of Shadows, All Shadows Fled.
macmatt20 08-08-05, 11:43 PM	There's 3 novels that explain it, which are Shadowdale, Waterdeep, and Tantras. There's 3 modules of the same names. There's 2 novels that take place after it, which are Prince of Lies and Crucible - The Trial of Cyric the Mad. Ed Greenwood also had a trilogy that ties in with those events and those novels are: Shadows of Doom, Cloak of Shadows, All Shadows Fled. Thanks for the info!!
Bloodtide_the_Red 08-14-05, 03:50 PM	The ToT was little more then a summer, though one crazy summer to be fair. It was from Kythorn(June) 15 to Marpenoth(October) 15 of 1358 DR. If your game is set in the Modern Realms, say 1373 DR, that was a 'long time' for young folks, like most characters. So your average human, say age 20 in 1373 was only 5 during the ToT. It's a little more recent for non-humans, a dwarf or gnome would have been 20 something, and an elf would have been 80 something(though note that a 81 year old elf is still a kid, so he was not scribing War and Peace, he was playing games). So for most characters it's far enough in the past not to matter much. At the most they would remember something like 'the day when they were 5 and they talked to a frog' or 'watched 4 suns come up'. Only characters that are at least 30(human) or so in 1373 are going to have any 'real' stories. Stores realy depend on where the character was at the time. There were some 'hot spots', and then there was everywhere else. Most folks would have some crazy stories from that summer. A lot of this stuff was mundane though, not like off-the-wall. Some examples- -They awoke one day to find the river flowing the wrong way. Folks simply shruged and got used to the new river flow. -Animals, plants and objects talking. -Strange weather-it snowed in Chult, for example. -Odd creatures, like a horse with 8 legs Otherwise they would know that wizard magic went crazy, so no one wanted wizards around. Ex-a wizard cast Levitate and floated into space. And clerics lost thier powers, so for that summer their was no healing or such. So as for Characters, their history might have- -Their parent being effected. If a guy hates magic, it could be from when thier dad was killed by a wild surge, for example. -Loss of faith or gaining faith. -Gain of wealth(the tree in the backyard turned to gold) or loss of wealth(all their gold turned into lead). -Magic transformation, being changed in someway. This could explain a sorcerer, half-dragon or such. BT
Zedharutiathais 08-14-05, 03:50 PM	The ToT happened 14 years before the time the 3e FRCS is set. Depending on their races, characters would most likely have a vague memory at best. The elven and dwarven pantheons aren't ruled by Ao. Did they even get banished from the planes? It's really up to the DM. In my campaign the ToT created a fear of magic that is still felt to the present day. Otherwise the new churches created afterwards are settled into their roles, save for the church of Cyric which never really is settled and the church of Kelemvor who still has to deal with it's unsavory reputation.
Donraj 08-14-05, 04:23 PM	The elven and dwarven pantheons aren't ruled by Ao. Did they even get banished from the planes? In one of Salvatore's novels its shown that Lolth is cast down and that the drow are effected by the Time of Troubles in the same way as everyone else. Its also explicitly stated that all worshipped beings were subject to being expelled from the planes.
Zevox 08-14-05, 04:28 PM	The elven and dwarven pantheons aren't ruled by Ao. Did they even get banished from the planes? It's really up to the DM. Actually, they are ruled by Ao, and they were banished from the planes. Ao is Toril's overgod: every deity within the Realms' cosmology is subject to his will. And we know that the Faerūnian pantheon wasn't the only one banished: at the very least, its certain Lolth was likewise based simply on the Drizzt novels in the Legacy of the Drow series, and I'm fairly certain I read somewhere that one of the Dwarven Gods (Clangedden(sp)?) was involved in a deific battle on Toril during this time. I'm sure Kuje or someone can give a bit more specific info on that, but its certain that all the pantheons were banished along with the Faerūnians. Zevox
Alac Luin 08-14-05, 07:21 PM	Take a look here... http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/fr/deitytrouble ...shows the whereabouts of several of the Deities during this time. and yes, "racial" pantheons were affected.
Bloodtide_the_Red 08-14-05, 11:28 PM	The fight between Labelas Enoreth and Clangeddin Silverbeard is mentioned in the FRCS, so it's official. And Underdark notes the apparence of gods like Ilsensine and Deep Duerra.... BT