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NiTessine 06-17-03, 03:19 PM	So, what do you think will be in the upcoming Underdark sourcebook? What do you wish will be in it? What do you think will be the 'mystery race', censored from the index they posted? Yes, this is a blatant excuse to get the first post in the new forum. :D I'm betting on derro for the 'mystery race', by the way. Edit: Well, looks like Paradox got in the first one. Make this the second, then. The subject still stands, though...
Elrumir 06-17-03, 04:39 PM	I'm hoping for the derro, with their gods Diirinka and Diinkarazan IIRC... However, since the dwarves already have an underdark version, it wouldn't surprise me if the newest underdark race would come in the form of a halfling... I mean, we already saw the barbaric version of the halfling, the ghostwise hin, and the halflings are now the only race without a deep or dark version... Imagine sorcerous halflings trying to avoid the drow for as long as possible, all the while avoiding the drow and other evil underdark denizens. It wouldn't surprise me at all, not since the newest subrace of the elves was 'discovered' (the Star Elves from Yuirwood) :nonono: I wouldn't object to derro or even illithids, though :D
The White Sorcerer 06-17-03, 04:56 PM	Index? They posted the index? Where?
Masakado 06-17-03, 05:23 PM	Index cheerfully provided by Rich Baker. Boy, do I hate it when they censor the list. :p ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Underdark Table of Contents Introduction How To Use This Book in Your Campaign What You Need to Play Chapter 1: Races of the Underdark Chitine [Censored] Drow Duergar Gloaming Grimlock Kuo-toa Slyth Svirfneblin Other Character Races Age, Height, and Weight Chapt 2: Regions and Feats Character Regions Chitine [Censored] Gloaming Grimlock Kuo-toa Slyth Character Feats Axeshield Bowslinger Caustic Adaptation Caver Elfhunter Enhanced Adhesive Exotic Armor Proficiency Extra Wild Shape Familiar Spell Graft Illithid Flesh Highborn Drow Improved Familiar Improved Levitation Lolth's Meat Metanode Spell Node Defense Node Spellcasting Node Store Node Sensitive Portal Sensitive Stone Soul Strong Mind Tunnelfighter Tunnelrunner Underdark Immigrant Wisdom Breeds Caution Chapter 3: Prestige Classes Arachnemancer Cavelord Deep Diviner Drow Judicator Illithid Body Tamer [censored] Inquisitor of the Drowning Goddess Prime Underdark Guide Sea Mother Whip Shadowcrafter Vermin Keeper Yathchol Webrider Chapter 4: Magic and Spells of the Underdark Lore of the Underdark Node Magic Portals New Domains Balance Domain Portal Domain Watery Death Prestige Domain New Spells Amorphous Form Blindsight Burrow Burrow, Mass Caltrops Camouflage Changestones Clarity of Mind Contagious Fog Darkvision, Mass Deeper Darkvision Dehydrate Drown Drown, Mass Earth Lock Earth Shield Eradicate Earth Excavate Hail of Stone Locate Node Mark of the Outcast Mineralize Warrior Node Door Node Genesis Node Lock Portal Barricade Portal Stabilization Portal to Portal Redirect Portal Reformat Portal View Reflective Disguise Reflective Disguise, Mass Rushing Waters Sanctuary, Mass Spiderskin Stick Stone Metamorphosis Stone Metamorphosis, Greater Stoneskin, Improved Stone Shape, Greater Stone Sphere Tremorsense Tunnel Swallow Undermaster Viscid Glob Wall of Dispel Magic Wall of Greater Dispel Magic Weighed in the Balance Word of Balance Chapter 5: Equipment and Magic Items Adventuring Gear Weapons Armor Other Equipment Poison Magic Items Illithid Grafts Chapter 6: Monsters of the Underdark All-Consuming Hunger Annihilator Arachnoid Mouther (arachnoid creature template) Baphitaur Chameleon Bugbear (chameleon creature template) Earth Glider Elder Brain Faerzress-infused Minotaur (faerzress infused creature template) Giant Cockroach Giant Maggot Ineffable Horror Kuo-toa Leviathan Lith Lurker Maur (Hunched Giant) Mindwitness (half-illithid creature template) Phaerlock Portal Drake Stone Flyer Stony Devil (mineral warrior template) Gloura Chapter 7: Exploring the Underdark Geology and Environmnets of the Underdark Rocks and Rock Formations The Underdark Environment Climate Ecology Spelunking Cramped Spaces Climbing Access Underdark Encounter Tables Encounter Chance How to Use the Tables Uppderdark (Underground, Frontier) Upperdark Wilds (Underground, Wilderness) Middledark (Undergaround, Settled) Middledark Wilds (Underground, Frontier) Lowerdark (Underground, Wilderness) Lowerdark Wilds (Underground, Desolate) An Underdark Primer Chapter 8: Geography of the Underdark Underdark Domains [[Lots of entries, beginning with Ammarindar and ending with Yathchol. This chapter is about 80 pages or so.]] Chapter 9: Adventures in the Underdark Dungeons in the Underdark Adventure Sites Drowned Multum Gduar's Garden Shape of Water -------------------------------------------------------------------------
JamesL85 06-17-03, 05:34 PM	Might be derro, but could also be Desmodus (des-MOH-doos). They're a new race detailed in the Deep Horizon module. Basically they're a humanoid resembling monstrous bats. About 300 years ago, they were locked in a losing fight to the Drow and decided to play dead. They redirected a magma flow that destroyed the nearest drow city and sealed off their realm. Everyone who even knew about the race assumed they were extinct. But a recent earthquake has "broken the seal" and their existence is becoming known. But it could also be derro.....:smirk:
Tempus665 06-17-03, 05:48 PM	Once more it seems that I have to tell everyone how much I dislike the Desmodu :behold: No Desmodu, please! Anyway, Underdark will probably be all that I expect it to be :D
Herr Doktor 06-17-03, 08:28 PM	I'm glad that an Adventure section will be included, as UE cetainly lacks in adventuring material. The 80 pages of Domain descriptions sounds good too. As for the race... I'd guess Derro as well, Desmodu stink. Eh... well, what I mean is I don't like how they look at all, heh. I've not enjoyed a single piece of artwork depicting them yet.
PhilCW 06-17-03, 09:59 PM	New Race, I think will be the Ibrandlin for some Sharran goodness. They have been mentionned in a few books already, so it wouldn't be a stretch to include them.
ElGrecoETAC 06-18-03, 12:02 AM	Yeah, but considering all the races were alphabetized... Derro seems likely... or those bat-people the others were mentioning.
KismetRose 06-18-03, 01:03 AM	I suppose it is too much for me to hope that a lot of setting material will be added. You know - history, politics, personages (beyond stats - their pasts and motivations). I was rather disappointed when I looked in the Far East book the other day. Most of it was dedicated to game stats and pictures. It felt... padded. There is so much intrigue to be found in the Underdark that I fear a lot may be left out in favor of the latest feats or spells.
Bantam 06-18-03, 01:32 AM	Originally posted by NiTessine What do you wish will be in it? I'm hoping fo official 3.5 version of Jarlaxle's stat block.
NiTessine 06-18-03, 03:18 AM	Originally posted by Bantam I'm hoping fo official 3.5 version of Jarlaxle's stat block. You and me both... :) As the index (thanks, Masakado) shows, the censored race will be alphabetically between chitines and drow. This is why I think it'll be derro. I figure it being desmodu is unlikely, as, well, the buggers have already shown up in Deep Horizon, Monster Manual II, and Savage Species... Nothing new about them, anymore.
Tempus665 06-18-03, 04:30 AM	Also, Desmodu have had nothing to do with the Forgotten Realms in the past; it would be lame to start including them now. As for the Ibrandlin, even though they are quite cool, they aren“t a player race. :b:
Derulbaskul 06-18-03, 08:29 AM	Perhaps it could be dark creepers/dark stalkers, although I would also be betting on derro. It's good to see the BoVD "reject" monsters get published too: giant maggot and giant cockroach. These are also available on Monte Cook's website.
NiTessine 06-18-03, 09:01 AM	Originally posted by PhilCW New Race, I think will be the Ibrandlin for some Sharran goodness. They have been mentionned in a few books already, so it wouldn't be a stretch to include them. Eeh... the Ibrandlin are honkin' big dragons, statted out in Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerūn. I don't think they'd make very good PCs.
Sarelle 06-18-03, 01:36 PM	I am hoping for Derros. I would also quite like expanded descriptions on Diirinka, Lolth, Kiaransalee, Eilistraee, Blidpoolpoolp (sp?), Ilsenine (sp?) and those elusive "various Underdark deities" that are mentioned so often in Faiths and Pantheons (yeah, I know they said that there arn't any other gods other than the ones in that book - but hey, I can hope.)
JamesL85 06-18-03, 08:15 PM	I figure it being desmodu is unlikely, as, well, the buggers have already shown up in Deep Horizon, Monster Manual II, and Savage Species... Nothing new about them, anymore. :bow: That's truly sad.....I have all three and only noticed them in Deep Horizon.....:sad: Blidpoolpoolp (sp?) I believe it's Blibdoolpoolp, although not quite sure about that last "L."
optimus prime 06-18-03, 10:40 PM	Originally posted by NiTessine You and me both... :) Me too. http://boards.wizards.com/rpg/avatars/Transformers-Optimus.gif
Orbdrin Mizzrym 06-19-03, 09:09 PM	Look in the third edition Monster Manual, under the halfling entry. Deep Halfling... *Shudders* We can only hope its not Deep Halflings. I really think it will be the Derro. They've been avoided so far in 3rd edition products, aside from the Monster Manual.
KaeYoss 06-20-03, 09:15 AM	Definetly Derro. Eilistraee wouldn't fit - she's no underdark deity. Vhaeraun would fit better (he still has worshippers in the Night Below)
Dxzauvrinn 06-20-03, 03:02 PM	I think it might be the auvathyrri, the crossbreed of drow and avariel with scraggy bird wings or black insect wings. Their mentioned in Year of the Drow feature under drow pets in the flying spider entry.