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khazefryn 01-03-06, 03:30 PM	Hi, In a game I don't want to call characters or NPCs by their specific levels, e.g. 5th level cleric, so I'm looking for titles to give them that give a general feel for the level they are at, for example: Cleric Novice = levels 1 to 3. Adept = levels 4 to 6. Priestess = levels 7 to 11. High Priestess = levels 12 to 20. Wizard/Sorceror Apprentice = levels 1 to 3. ?????????? = levels 4 to 6. Wizard/Sorceror = level 7 to 11. High Mage = level 12 to 20. Fighter No idea!!! Bard No idea!!! Rogue No idea!!! What do you think and if you can help with any "titles" and levels that would be a BIG help?
Humanculus 01-03-06, 07:11 PM	Fighter you could use military terms or knightly terms depending on what kind of fighter they are... Private Sarge Captain General or Squire knight Knight-errant Knight of the realm For a bard try musical terms ode hymnist Lyricist symphony Rogue Purse Cut Troat Brigand Rogue Master Rogue It really all depends on what kind of order they belong to and how they role-play their character... for example... Helm refers to their preists as military rankings.
Bsauey 01-03-06, 07:18 PM	The second wizard title should be magician, the last one should be arch-mage or master wizard. Just my thoughts.
Faraer 01-03-06, 10:02 PM	The original AD&D Player's Handbook has class/level titles; have a look, but they don't fit the Realms too well. These are common Realms terms (the levels are approximate): MAGE: mageling (1-4), mage (5-17), mage of power/archmage (18+) CLERIC: underpriest (1-3), priest (4-8), upperpriest (9-14), high priest (15+) Fighter and rogue roles are too variable for a single list. The 1E druidic hierarchy applies to an extent. Organized priesthoods have formal rank titles, some of which which have been published in Faiths & Avatars, novels, candlekeep.com, etc.
Lord Karsus 01-03-06, 11:32 PM	-Fighters, Bards and Rogues are too broad to be given defenitions like this. I mean, a level 10 fighter can be a commander in an army, a well-known thug, a bodyguard or a pirate. A rogue can be anything from a thief to a spy to someone who just doesn't fit in too well. Same thing goes with the bard. -For Clerics, Faiths & Avatars, as well as Demihuman Deities has a list for many religions. -For Druids, The Complete Druid's Handbooks says, 1 - 11: Initiate 12: Druid 13: Archdruid 14: Greatdruids 15: The Grand Druid
Baptor 01-19-06, 02:08 PM	Sadly I played a game once that used this method on the internet. Ill post some of those titles here, maybe they will help. 1. Druid Druid Archdruid Diarmuid Ainvar 2. Monk Monk ?? Karuna Samaruhi 3. Bard Muse Thespian Virtuoso Prodigy Im tired, there were others...but I canna think of em now.
Jandar the Druid 01-19-06, 06:09 PM	The classical terms for craftsmen were these: Apprentice (for the workers still learning the craft) Journeyman (for more skilled workers, probably able to do most of the work themselves, but not considered fully educated and still in service to their master) Master (not sure about this title, but at least this is the fully educated craftsmen who has left their master to do business on their own.) The definitions are my own, so if anyone has more accurate/correct definitions you're welcome.
Thelandrach 01-20-06, 11:21 AM	The original AD&D Player's Handbook has class/level titles; have a look, but they don't fit the Realms too well. And the 1st ed Unearthed Arcana included titles for Barbarian levels... 1st level: Barbarian 2nd level: Barbarian 3rd level: Barbarian 4th level: Barbarian 5th level: Barbarian ...
Lord Karsus 01-20-06, 11:58 AM	And the 1st ed Unearthed Arcana included titles for Barbarian levels... 1st level: Barbarian 2nd level: Barbarian 3rd level: Barbarian 4th level: Barbarian 5th level: Barbarian ... -That is all very true, but at the same time, so useless... :P
NightBreeze 01-20-06, 03:52 PM	Well, don't think so. Sure, barbarians won't use titles as they hate organization, however they can be called great rage and so on once they prove to be really strong.
warlockco 01-20-06, 05:26 PM	1st Edition Level Titles: Cleric 1: Acolyte 2: Adept 3: Priest 4: Curate 6: Canon 7: Lama 8: Patriach 9+: High Priest Druid 1: Aspirant 2: Ovate 3: Initiate of the 1st Circle 4: Initiate of the 2nd Circle 5: Initiate of the 3rd Circle 6: Initiate of the 4th Circle 7: Initiate of the 5th Circle 8: Initiate of the 6th Circle 9: Initiate of the 7th Circle 10: Initiate of the 8th Circle 11: Initiate of the 9th Circle 12: Druid 13: Archdruid 14: The Great Druid 15: The Grand Druid 16: Hierophant Druid 17: Hierophant Initiate 18: Hierophant Adept 19: Hierophant Master 20: Numinous Hierophant 21: Mystic Hierophant 22: Arcane Hierophant 23: Hierophant of the Cabal Fighter 1: Veteran 2: Warrior 3: Swordsman 4: Hero 5: Swashbuckler 6: Myrmidon 7: Champion 8: Superhero 9+: Lord Paladin 1: Gallant 2: Keeper 3: Protector 4: Defender 5: Warder 6: Guardian 7: Chevalier 8: Justiciar 9+: Paladin Ranger 1: Runner 2: Strider 3: Scout 4: Courser 5: Tracker 6: Guide 7: Pathfinder 8: Ranger 9: Ranger Knight 10+: Ranger Lord Magic-User (i.e. Wizard) 1: Prestidigitator 2: Evoker 3: Conjurer 4: Theurgist 5: Thaumaturgist 6: Magician 7: Enchanter 8: Warlock 9: Sorcerer 10: Necromancer 11-15: Wizard 16-17: Mage 18+: Archmage Illusionist 1: Prestidigitator 2: Minor Trickster 3: Trickster 4: Master Trickster 5: Cabalist 6: Visionist 7: Phantasmist 8: Apparitionist 9: Spellbinder 10+: Illusionist Thief (i.e. Rogue) 1: Rogue (Apprentice) 2: Footpad 3: Cutpurse 4: Robber 5: Burglar 6: Filcher 7: Sharper 8: Magsman 9: Thief 10+: Master Thief Assassin 1: Bravo (Apprentice) 2: Rutterkin 3: Waghalter 4: Murderer 5: Thug 6: Killer 7: Cutthroat 8: Executioner 9: Assassin 10: Expert Assassin 11: Senior Assassin 12: Chief Assassin 13: Prime Assassin 14: Guildmaster Assassin 15: Grandfather of Assassins Monk 1: Novice 2: Initiate 3: Brother 4: Disciple 5: Immaculate 6: Master 7: Superior Master 8: Master of Dragons 9: Master of the North Wind 10: Master of the West Wind 11: Master of the South Wind 12: Master of the East Wind 13: Master of Winter 14: Master of Autumn 15: Master of Summer 16: Master of Spring 17: Grand Master of Flowers Cavalier -1: Horseman 0: Lancer 1: Armiger 2: Scutifer 3: Esquire 4: Knight Errant 5: Knight Bachelor 6: Knight 7: Grand Knight 8: Banneret 9: Chevalier 10+: Cavalier Barbarian 1+: Barbarian Thief-Acrobat 6: Burglar-Acrobat 7: Second-Story Thief 8: Cat Burglar 9: Master Cat Burglar 10: Thief-Acrobat 11+: Master Thief-Acrobat
Borris 01-22-06, 03:36 AM	And Sea of Fallen Stars has titles for each level of the Dukar class, a unique type of specialist wizard that's now a substitution level in Champions of Valor. Lorekeeper 1: First Disciple 2: Second Disciple 3: Third Disciple 4: Fourth Disciple 5: Master Disciple 6: First Adept 7: Second Adept 8: Third Adept 9: Fourth Adept 10: Master Adept 11: First Sage 12: Second Sage 13: Third Sage 14: Fourth Sage 15: Master Sage 16: First Savant 17: Second Savant 18: Third Savant 19: Fourth Savant 20: Master Savant 21: Grand Savant 22: Grand Savant of the First Order 23: Grand Savant of the Second Order 24: Grand Savant of the Third Order 25: Grand Savant of the Fourth Order 26: Grand Savant of the Peacekeepers 27: Grand Savant of the Lorekeepers 28: Grand Savant of the Council 29: Grand Savant of the Dukars 30: Grand Master Peacekeeper 1: Recruit 2: Squire 3: Yeoman 4: Soldier 5: Scout 6: Master Scout 7: Warder 8: Master Warder 9: Veteran 10: Hero 11: Champion 12: Icon 13: Guardian 14: Guardian Vigilant 15: Knight 16: Knight Vigilant 17: Justicar 18: Grand Justicar 19: Myrmidon 20: Grand Myrmidon
Bloodtide_the_Red 01-22-06, 04:08 PM	I don't like the idea of 'level names' any more then saying the level number. You don't want to say 'he is a 5th level cleric', anymore then you want to say 'he is a bishop'(and everyone knows a bishop is 5th level). I like things to be much more vague. If some one is a 'Arch-Mage', you have no idea what true level they are...though you'd guess they are powerful. This keeps everyone guessing as to the true level/power of everyone. BT
Araciel 01-22-06, 04:38 PM	ah yes...but if a bunch of people saw a 10th level fighter take out 30 men in a few rounds, they would undoubtedly call him a sword (or whatever weapon he used to accomplish this feat) master, or battlelord, or just UNCLE!!! hahah
Another Gnome 01-23-06, 03:37 AM	Multiclassing makes level names pretty much pointless. :whatsthis And besides, whether you're a 1st-level fighter or a 13th-level rogue, you're still 'adventurer' to every peasant, and monsters still call you 'food'.
warlockco 01-24-06, 03:01 AM	Multiclassing makes level names pretty much pointless. :whatsthis And besides, whether you're a 1st-level fighter or a 13th-level rogue, you're still 'adventurer' to every peasant, and monsters still call you 'food'. I thought it was "Those Meddling Kids" :D
Silverpanther 01-24-06, 06:02 AM	hey warlock, which sourcebook are these titles in? oh, and classes like the assassin where "kits" for the rogue back there, right?
Kuje31 01-24-06, 11:43 AM	oh, and classes like the assassin where "kits" for the rogue back there, right? Yes. :) Except in 1e when it was a core class in the PHB.