What could happen in 4 years? [Archive] - Wizards Community

What could happen in 4 years? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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gratzu
10-17-05, 06:02 PM I'm starting up my campaign and I've decided to advance the timeline a few years. It begins midsummer's eve, 1376 (the night before the next shieldmeet). I've got the characters traveling to Silverymoon for the festivities (one of which includes the opening of the very first surface temple openly dedicated to Eilistraee). I know that's a big change, but it has been 4 years and nobody ever said that it was a good idea...

Anyway, my question is this; what else do you think could have happened in these four years? What have the Shades been up to? Or the Drow? The Harpers? How about the Silver Marches itself? Don't forget the instability in Cormyr. How are the Red Wizards doing in their attempt at monopolizing the market on magic items?

I would appreciate your input on this, there is a lot to think about here and I want to make it as real and as reasonable as possible.

So, let the speculations begin!
Mathas
10-20-05, 04:09 AM Well lets see. As far as the Shade's go, in four years they could have started to expand across the Anauroch. Either peacably in exploration or to expand there new borders by force.
The latter would probably have some attention drawn to them depending on which way they went through the dessert
Slime Lord
10-20-05, 09:16 AM I'm starting up my campaign and I've decided to advance the timeline a few years. It begins midsummer's eve, 1376 (the night before the next shieldmeet). I've got the characters traveling to Silverymoon for the festivities (one of which includes the opening of the very first surface temple openly dedicated to Eilistraee). I know that's a big change, but it has been 4 years and nobody ever said that it was a good idea...

Anyway, my question is this; what else do you think could have happened in these four years? What have the Shades been up to? Or the Drow? The Harpers? How about the Silver Marches itself? Don't forget the instability in Cormyr. How are the Red Wizards doing in their attempt at monopolizing the market on magic items?

I would appreciate your input on this, there is a lot to think about here and I want to make it as real and as reasonable as possible.

So, let the speculations begin!

I believe the latest novel, let me check on one real quick ---- yes, the Farthest Reach is placed in 1374. So, you'd have to set it to 1378.
gratzu
10-20-05, 11:10 AM I believe the latest novel, let me check on one real quick ---- yes, the Farthest Reach is placed in 1374. So, you'd have to set it to 1378.

I didn't realize that. It's not the 4 years that's so important, it's the 1376 (the next Shieldmeet). I haven't had the chance to read any of the new books though. Can anyone give me a reader's digest version?
Tobus Neth
11-06-05, 10:15 PM New president. 4 kids. .....the list goes on and on.
kaeso
11-06-05, 11:39 PM Wizards will have announced 4.0 on July 1st 2006, and then in 2009 they announced 5.0. After spending every morning and evening swimming in their giant vault of money, they decide to quit the D&D business and invest in some McDonalds stock. Haha no seriously... I see the shades plans being MUCH more advanced than they are now, probably only a year from their ultimate goals (ruling everything). More drow on the surface, causing a lot of trouble in the Dalelands, Cormyr breaking down (but don't actually let it completely break down-heroes saving it will make it that much cooler) and the Red Wizards are having setbacks becuase of some other random cult. Might wanna get a comprehensive list of every major organization and cult in Faerun, they gotta have on of those on the net somewhere...
BrianCritchley
11-07-05, 08:59 PM the elves return to Cormanthyr and other major elven strongholds they abandoned
Oghmanyte
11-07-05, 09:55 PM I theorize that Sembia has made inroads in Cormyr, and might even be close to owning the country, if not governing it. If the elves have returned to Cormanthyr, a suggestion I like, then there is brewing conflict between Sembia's growing power and the elven strongholds, with the Dalelands right in the middle of it.
Majorafire77
11-07-05, 10:18 PM and then in 2009 they announced 5.0.
Nope, 4.5.
BrianCritchley
11-07-05, 10:41 PM I theorize that Sembia has made inroads in Cormyr, and might even be close to owning the country, if not governing it. If the elves have returned to Cormanthyr, a suggestion I like, then there is brewing conflict between Sembia's growing power and the elven strongholds, with the Dalelands right in the middle of it.

your assuming of course allusair just lets em,
Oghmanyte
11-08-05, 12:08 AM Oh, she'd have a fit for sure, but Cormyr's financial burdens might force her to make compromises.
Cli' San Aquanova
11-08-05, 07:48 PM And this isn't even scratching the surface of what may occur concerning the gods.

Paul Kemp is promising a "Realms-shaking event" in his trilogy that follows the Erevis Cale trilogy. Seeing as the titles obviously inform us that it will (as the EC trilogy did) concern Mask (as all of the titles have "Shadow" prefixing it it), so the Master of All Thieves will be involved in it, I guarrantee. What will occur is what we do not know. Perhaps Kezef or Cyric or Shar will do in the Lord of Shadows, or maybe he will succeed in his hair-brained schemes and get a boost in power ala Lolth.

Which makes me wonder; since the current year is what, 1374 DR (isn't that the Year of the Rogue Dragons?), does the EC and upcoming Twilight War trilogy take place in 1374? I don't quite think so for Cale's trilogy, but maybe the TW will.

-C'SA
:u:Bring Back Merfolk!!!:u:
BrianCritchley
11-09-05, 01:51 AM twiloight war? maybe Mask and Shar duke it out.
Slime Lord
11-09-05, 07:40 AM twiloight war? maybe Mask and Shar duke it out.

That would be interesting (I'm not novel talking on the follow) - Because I have said once that Shar is due for a decline much like her sister has. But, we could argue that perhaps if this is the case, Mask is wanting The Shadow Weave in his portfolio for some reason, or the Underdark in it. Or, viceversa with his.

Possibilites... :D
BrianCritchley
11-09-05, 08:57 PM shar wants Mask's Shadow Protfolio.
Kessalin Talira
11-09-05, 10:27 PM Lolth's faith may have strengthened by a good deal in these several years. The Velarwood, in Harrowdale, is utterly devoid of life other than Lolth-worshipping drow, as is the rest of Harrowdale. The other dalelands are experiencing the worst raids ever known by the dark elves, both the Lolth worshippers led by the Lady Penitent, and the dark elves following other gods. The former raid for sheer sadistic glee, in accordance with the decrees of their mistress, while the latter raid simply for survival, as they are hunted nearly to extinction. Any Dalesmen that happen to be in the way when the factions clash are simply swept away in the fighting.

Most of Cormanthor would be in the hands of the drow by now, and Myth Drannor could conceivably be reshaped as a dark elven stronghold, once the Fey'ri were removed.
Slime Lord
11-10-05, 07:28 AM Naw :eek: LOL. I don't think that coming about anytime soon...
BrianCritchley
11-10-05, 03:13 PM Lolth's faith may have strengthened by a good deal in these several years. The Velarwood, in Harrowdale, is utterly devoid of life other than Lolth-worshipping drow, as is the rest of Harrowdale. The other dalelands are experiencing the worst raids ever known by the dark elves, both the Lolth worshippers led by the Lady Penitent, and the dark elves following other gods. The former raid for sheer sadistic glee, in accordance with the decrees of their mistress, while the latter raid simply for survival, as they are hunted nearly to extinction. Any Dalesmen that happen to be in the way when the factions clash are simply swept away in the fighting.

Most of Cormanthor would be in the hands of the drow by now, and Myth Drannor could conceivably be reshaped as a dark elven stronghold, once the Fey'ri were removed.
where's this info from?
Kessalin Talira
11-10-05, 05:51 PM It's an extrapolation of the end of Resurrection (War of the Spider Queen, book 6), when the Lady Penitent (who I'm not going to name explicitly in case people are still reading the series) is pondering what to do with her new powers, and muses that the Velarswood would be a good place to start. I figure a direct representative of Lolth in Faerun would attract quite the following, and with a good number of them concentrated in one place, they could do a lot of damage.
Muddman
11-12-05, 09:48 PM I've done this many times because I love doing world shaping events, and fast forwarding a few years doesn't ruin the world for someone else to run a campaign.

When I do it, I try to keep things pretty much consistant. Obviously things change, but I focus in on the key, important points and make small changes.

For example, the campaign I'm running now is in 1376 and its early in the year. The war between the Chosen and the Shades remains at a deadlocke, neither side willing to push the evelope and risk utter destruction. Their border have expanded, but not beyond the desert of Anaurach.

The drow have a limited control of the Elvin Court, but hardly complete. Their numbers have grown, but not so much that they risk exposure. They know full well that if they are attacked by a combined army of men and elves without control of the elvin lands, they'll be stomped flat.

Lloth's silence has ended, but the faith of Kiralanshee (terribly spelt, the drow goddess of the dead) has grown strong. She is now on par with Lloth, which has created alot of tension between the faiths. Minor "holy" wars are constantly being waged against one another.

Nothing about Shar and Mask in my world because, frankly, she'd wipe the floor with him. Besides, there's that whole "gods shall not attack gods" edict from AO. The shadow weave has been strengthened by the return of the shades though.
BrianCritchley
11-13-05, 05:00 AM It's an extrapolation of the end of Resurrection (War of the Spider Queen, book 6), when the Lady Penitent (who I'm not going to name explicitly in case people are still reading the series) is pondering what to do with her new powers, and muses that the Velarswood would be a good place to start. I figure a direct representative of Lolth in Faerun would attract quite the following, and with a good number of them concentrated in one place, they could do a lot of damage.

I simply interpreted that as going after the elistraee worshippers who took her in.
the fact is the dale lands aren't gonna have a problem with a chosen of lloth simply because there are so many other chosen in the vacinity :)
I also can't see lloth employing her lady Penitant frilvously.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
gratzu 10-17-05, 06:02 PM	I'm starting up my campaign and I've decided to advance the timeline a few years. It begins midsummer's eve, 1376 (the night before the next shieldmeet). I've got the characters traveling to Silverymoon for the festivities (one of which includes the opening of the very first surface temple openly dedicated to Eilistraee). I know that's a big change, but it has been 4 years and nobody ever said that it was a good idea... Anyway, my question is this; what else do you think could have happened in these four years? What have the Shades been up to? Or the Drow? The Harpers? How about the Silver Marches itself? Don't forget the instability in Cormyr. How are the Red Wizards doing in their attempt at monopolizing the market on magic items? I would appreciate your input on this, there is a lot to think about here and I want to make it as real and as reasonable as possible. So, let the speculations begin!
Mathas 10-20-05, 04:09 AM	Well lets see. As far as the Shade's go, in four years they could have started to expand across the Anauroch. Either peacably in exploration or to expand there new borders by force. The latter would probably have some attention drawn to them depending on which way they went through the dessert
Slime Lord 10-20-05, 09:16 AM	I'm starting up my campaign and I've decided to advance the timeline a few years. It begins midsummer's eve, 1376 (the night before the next shieldmeet). I've got the characters traveling to Silverymoon for the festivities (one of which includes the opening of the very first surface temple openly dedicated to Eilistraee). I know that's a big change, but it has been 4 years and nobody ever said that it was a good idea... Anyway, my question is this; what else do you think could have happened in these four years? What have the Shades been up to? Or the Drow? The Harpers? How about the Silver Marches itself? Don't forget the instability in Cormyr. How are the Red Wizards doing in their attempt at monopolizing the market on magic items? I would appreciate your input on this, there is a lot to think about here and I want to make it as real and as reasonable as possible. So, let the speculations begin! I believe the latest novel, let me check on one real quick ---- yes, the Farthest Reach is placed in 1374. So, you'd have to set it to 1378.
gratzu 10-20-05, 11:10 AM	I believe the latest novel, let me check on one real quick ---- yes, the Farthest Reach is placed in 1374. So, you'd have to set it to 1378. I didn't realize that. It's not the 4 years that's so important, it's the 1376 (the next Shieldmeet). I haven't had the chance to read any of the new books though. Can anyone give me a reader's digest version?
Tobus Neth 11-06-05, 10:15 PM	New president. 4 kids. .....the list goes on and on.
kaeso 11-06-05, 11:39 PM	Wizards will have announced 4.0 on July 1st 2006, and then in 2009 they announced 5.0. After spending every morning and evening swimming in their giant vault of money, they decide to quit the D&D business and invest in some McDonalds stock. Haha no seriously... I see the shades plans being MUCH more advanced than they are now, probably only a year from their ultimate goals (ruling everything). More drow on the surface, causing a lot of trouble in the Dalelands, Cormyr breaking down (but don't actually let it completely break down-heroes saving it will make it that much cooler) and the Red Wizards are having setbacks becuase of some other random cult. Might wanna get a comprehensive list of every major organization and cult in Faerun, they gotta have on of those on the net somewhere...
BrianCritchley 11-07-05, 08:59 PM	the elves return to Cormanthyr and other major elven strongholds they abandoned
Oghmanyte 11-07-05, 09:55 PM	I theorize that Sembia has made inroads in Cormyr, and might even be close to owning the country, if not governing it. If the elves have returned to Cormanthyr, a suggestion I like, then there is brewing conflict between Sembia's growing power and the elven strongholds, with the Dalelands right in the middle of it.
Majorafire77 11-07-05, 10:18 PM	and then in 2009 they announced 5.0. Nope, 4.5.
BrianCritchley 11-07-05, 10:41 PM	I theorize that Sembia has made inroads in Cormyr, and might even be close to owning the country, if not governing it. If the elves have returned to Cormanthyr, a suggestion I like, then there is brewing conflict between Sembia's growing power and the elven strongholds, with the Dalelands right in the middle of it. your assuming of course allusair just lets em,
Oghmanyte 11-08-05, 12:08 AM	Oh, she'd have a fit for sure, but Cormyr's financial burdens might force her to make compromises.
Cli' San Aquanova 11-08-05, 07:48 PM	And this isn't even scratching the surface of what may occur concerning the gods. Paul Kemp is promising a "Realms-shaking event" in his trilogy that follows the Erevis Cale trilogy. Seeing as the titles obviously inform us that it will (as the EC trilogy did) concern Mask (as all of the titles have "Shadow" prefixing it it), so the Master of All Thieves will be involved in it, I guarrantee. What will occur is what we do not know. Perhaps Kezef or Cyric or Shar will do in the Lord of Shadows, or maybe he will succeed in his hair-brained schemes and get a boost in power ala Lolth. Which makes me wonder; since the current year is what, 1374 DR (isn't that the Year of the Rogue Dragons?), does the EC and upcoming Twilight War trilogy take place in 1374? I don't quite think so for Cale's trilogy, but maybe the TW will. -C'SA :u:Bring Back Merfolk!!!:u:
BrianCritchley 11-09-05, 01:51 AM	twiloight war? maybe Mask and Shar duke it out.
Slime Lord 11-09-05, 07:40 AM	twiloight war? maybe Mask and Shar duke it out. That would be interesting (I'm not novel talking on the follow) - Because I have said once that Shar is due for a decline much like her sister has. But, we could argue that perhaps if this is the case, Mask is wanting The Shadow Weave in his portfolio for some reason, or the Underdark in it. Or, viceversa with his. Possibilites... :D
BrianCritchley 11-09-05, 08:57 PM	shar wants Mask's Shadow Protfolio.
Kessalin Talira 11-09-05, 10:27 PM	Lolth's faith may have strengthened by a good deal in these several years. The Velarwood, in Harrowdale, is utterly devoid of life other than Lolth-worshipping drow, as is the rest of Harrowdale. The other dalelands are experiencing the worst raids ever known by the dark elves, both the Lolth worshippers led by the Lady Penitent, and the dark elves following other gods. The former raid for sheer sadistic glee, in accordance with the decrees of their mistress, while the latter raid simply for survival, as they are hunted nearly to extinction. Any Dalesmen that happen to be in the way when the factions clash are simply swept away in the fighting. Most of Cormanthor would be in the hands of the drow by now, and Myth Drannor could conceivably be reshaped as a dark elven stronghold, once the Fey'ri were removed.
Slime Lord 11-10-05, 07:28 AM	Naw :eek: LOL. I don't think that coming about anytime soon...
BrianCritchley 11-10-05, 03:13 PM	Lolth's faith may have strengthened by a good deal in these several years. The Velarwood, in Harrowdale, is utterly devoid of life other than Lolth-worshipping drow, as is the rest of Harrowdale. The other dalelands are experiencing the worst raids ever known by the dark elves, both the Lolth worshippers led by the Lady Penitent, and the dark elves following other gods. The former raid for sheer sadistic glee, in accordance with the decrees of their mistress, while the latter raid simply for survival, as they are hunted nearly to extinction. Any Dalesmen that happen to be in the way when the factions clash are simply swept away in the fighting. Most of Cormanthor would be in the hands of the drow by now, and Myth Drannor could conceivably be reshaped as a dark elven stronghold, once the Fey'ri were removed. where's this info from?
Kessalin Talira 11-10-05, 05:51 PM	It's an extrapolation of the end of Resurrection (War of the Spider Queen, book 6), when the Lady Penitent (who I'm not going to name explicitly in case people are still reading the series) is pondering what to do with her new powers, and muses that the Velarswood would be a good place to start. I figure a direct representative of Lolth in Faerun would attract quite the following, and with a good number of them concentrated in one place, they could do a lot of damage.
Muddman 11-12-05, 09:48 PM	I've done this many times because I love doing world shaping events, and fast forwarding a few years doesn't ruin the world for someone else to run a campaign. When I do it, I try to keep things pretty much consistant. Obviously things change, but I focus in on the key, important points and make small changes. For example, the campaign I'm running now is in 1376 and its early in the year. The war between the Chosen and the Shades remains at a deadlocke, neither side willing to push the evelope and risk utter destruction. Their border have expanded, but not beyond the desert of Anaurach. The drow have a limited control of the Elvin Court, but hardly complete. Their numbers have grown, but not so much that they risk exposure. They know full well that if they are attacked by a combined army of men and elves without control of the elvin lands, they'll be stomped flat. Lloth's silence has ended, but the faith of Kiralanshee (terribly spelt, the drow goddess of the dead) has grown strong. She is now on par with Lloth, which has created alot of tension between the faiths. Minor "holy" wars are constantly being waged against one another. Nothing about Shar and Mask in my world because, frankly, she'd wipe the floor with him. Besides, there's that whole "gods shall not attack gods" edict from AO. The shadow weave has been strengthened by the return of the shades though.
BrianCritchley 11-13-05, 05:00 AM	It's an extrapolation of the end of Resurrection (War of the Spider Queen, book 6), when the Lady Penitent (who I'm not going to name explicitly in case people are still reading the series) is pondering what to do with her new powers, and muses that the Velarswood would be a good place to start. I figure a direct representative of Lolth in Faerun would attract quite the following, and with a good number of them concentrated in one place, they could do a lot of damage. I simply interpreted that as going after the elistraee worshippers who took her in. the fact is the dale lands aren't gonna have a problem with a chosen of lloth simply because there are so many other chosen in the vacinity :) I also can't see lloth employing her lady Penitant frilvously.