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Thysl 10-06-06, 12:48 AM	Olare! So in the current home campaign I have the realm of the Star Elves return - buildings and all - to the Yuirwood. My question to you, those who know the Simbul well, is what would she do about this? Would she make the soveriegn of the Suildeyuir relinquish their throne? Would she forfeit the Yuirwood? With most other rulers I wouldn't have a problem but I want to do the old girl justice (she kinda scares me).... Thanks in advance, Thysl
Bladesong 10-06-06, 01:06 AM	It's politics like that that would keep Suildeyuir from coming back to the Yuirwood.
Krash 10-06-06, 02:13 AM	Umm, I think Suildeyuir can't return to the Yuirwood. It was never part of the Yuirwood. It's a a demiplane or pocket plane created by High Magic and linked to the Yuirwood. What you might be saying is what would happen if the star elves returned to the Yuirwood en-masse to re-establish their rule there. As to that, there's any number of possibilities. Most of them involving the Simbul and meteor swarms I suspect. -- George Krashos
BrianCritchley 10-06-06, 03:06 AM	I imagine the Symbul would proably simply work with the elves and attempt to come to some sort of understanding, in general algorand has maintained a somewhat "hands off" policy towards the woods IIRC. so I doubt it'd be too big an issue, however the star elves being smart would realize that you can't expect to just come back and lay claim to something you abandoned ages ago. ESPECIALLY as the woods are mostly inhabbited by their half-elven descendants so they can't exactly claim the wood is rightfully theres and everyone else are squatters.
Bladesong 10-06-06, 04:07 AM	Umm, I think Suildeyuir can't return to the Yuirwood. It was never part of the Yuirwood. It's a a demiplane or pocket plane created by High Magic and linked to the Yuirwood. What you might be saying is what would happen if the star elves returned to the Yuirwood en-masse to re-establish their rule there. As to that, there's any number of possibilities. Most of them involving the Simbul and meteor swarms I suspect. -- George Krashos :eek: Oooooo I thought he meant Suildeyuir as Suildeyuir, the kingdom and court of the star elves rather than the actual plane itself. Would the Simbul really want to destroy a numerous and powerful potential ally?
Jiggawha 10-06-06, 07:04 AM	Hope this helps a bit (it's not directly related to the question but it's most we know about it) : ''The reaction of The Simbul and the folk of Aglarond to any mass return of the star elves would of course chiefly depend on the behaviour of the star elves. Assuming the elves weren’t openly hostile, it would one of (cautious) welcome, hoping the star elves would ‘cleanse’ the Yuirwood by inhabiting it and governing it, eliminating prowling monsters and preventing Thayan spying and creeping expansion. I could indeed envisage the Wizards’ Reach being taken over by the star elves, who would immediately begin to “re-green” it, eliminate the worst monsters, pirates, brigands, and Thayans. This would occur because the star elves would want the space to expand into, and freedom from having Red Wizards on their doorsteps, not as part of officially allying with Aglarond (The Simbul would do her best to steer any hotheads among the folk of Aglarond from treating or speaking of the star elves as Aglarondan subjects at all, trying to establish the star elves as friendly independent allies and ignore the traditional claims of Aglarond to rulership of the Yuirwood). Of course, all of this depends on the star elves not making war on Aglarond. If they were foolish enough to do so, they would wreck the human kingdom, but pay a huge price in doing so (thanks to The Simbul and all the arcane aid she could call on) - - and the Red Wizards would gleefully pounce on the weakened remnant and seize the entire peninsula. Star elf society would oppose the Red Wizards out of disgust at the brutalization of the land (every bit of it put to agricultural or industrial use, remember?) the Thayans practice, the Red Wizards’ use of magic to dominate and oppress, and out of fear of being taken as slaves and worked to death or mind-reamed for their magical knowledge. They might or might not justify this on moral grounds (I don’t know, but strongly suspect they would dress up the reasons I’ve just listed in a “These Red Wizards are an abomination that must be shattered and swept away before all Faerūn is despoiled” guise). I also don’t know how star elven magic (and the remembered lore and history of magic) has developed during their ‘time away.’ They DO retain powerful magic, but whether it’s “high magic plus” or twisted into something different is an open question at the moment; to some extent, high magic depends on being rooted in the land in which its practitioners dwell. This all boils down to this: the morals, attitudes, social organization, and precise magical powers of the star elves remain largely mysterious, though we can safely assume they’ll be different from other elves, and will be magically powerful. As to all specifics: we’ll just have to wait and see. So saith Ed, master of Realmslore. ''
Thysl 10-06-06, 02:59 PM	Great stuff, thanks all!