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Borris 11-09-05, 12:53 AM	I'd like to know what sources are considered canon regarding the Forgotten Realms' storyline. I know all Forgotten Realms accessories are canon (of course), and I'm pretty sure the same goes for every Forgotten Realms novel as well. But that's where things get a little blurry. I know City of the Spider Queen is considered canon and even referenced in Underdark, but what about Sons of Gruumsh? Is it considered official? I'm inclined to think so, since the only other FR adventure was treated as such, but I'd like to know what other people think. And what about Legacy of the Green Regent? Once again, I assume this is all canon material, with all the plot recaps on the D&D site, but they're not really making it clear either. I know video games like Neverwinter Nights or Baldur's Gate are not canon, but I'm sure there are other Forgotten Realm products I'm forgetting.
Gray Richardson 11-09-05, 01:17 AM	If it is a Forgotten Realms product published by WotC or the old TSR then it is canon. Sons of Gruumsh is canon. All the official novels and FR fiction are canon. If Ed Greenwood writes it then it is canon, unless what Ed says is contradicted by official published material. The video games are not officially canon, but certain parts from Baldurs Gate I believe have been subsumed into canon. The Realms stuff in Dragon Magazine and Dungeon Magazine is canon too... I think. Some of it may fall into a gray area. I am not sure how much the Dragon magazine articles are vetted by the WotC staff, but pretty much all the recent stuff in Dragon and Dungeon has been written by top-notch WotC designers and writers. When two canon sources conflict, the one published later is assumed to trump the earlier source.
Kuje31 11-09-05, 01:29 AM	If it is a Forgotten Realms product published by WotC or the old TSR then it is canon. Sons of Gruumsh is canon. All the official novels and FR fiction are canon. If Ed Greenwood writes it then it is canon, unless what Ed says is contradicted by official published material. The video games are not officially canon, but certain parts from Baldurs Gate I believe have been subsumed into canon. The Realms stuff in Dragon Magazine and Dungeon Magazine is canon too... I think. Some of it may fall into a gray area. I am not sure how much the Dragon magazine articles are vetted by the WotC staff, but pretty much all the recent stuff in Dragon and Dungeon has been written by top-notch WotC designers and writers. When two canon sources conflict, the one published later is assumed to trump the earlier source. You covered it but to expand a little. :) All but the Double Diamond Triangle novels are canon and Once Around the Realms might not be either. Ed's words are only considered not canon if they are given an in game explaination on why the changes happened. Hence the ToT's. :) TSR considered Dragon/Dungeon/Polyhedron as canon and WOTC has pretty much kept this. However, TSR also pretty much considered the old SSI games as canon or more then 75% canon. Also anything Ed writes for the puter games is also canon.
Dargoth 11-09-05, 01:50 AM	Theres Canon and then theres Official Official is anything with an FR logo on it ie PC games like Neverwinter Nights, FR source books and modules etc Canon is an Official product that has been referenced in a newer FR product. All Canon material is official but not all official material is Canon Most of the Official FR stuff that hasnt been "canonised" is from the computer games for example In Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark an Arch devil gets loose in Waterdeep and burns down a reasonable section of the city. None of this was mentioned in City of Splendors (a source book that came out this year) This means that NWN: Hordes of the Underdark isnt Canon (its still offficial, as it has an FR logo on it) With regard to modules there not really Official vs Canon, its unresolved VS resolved Some modules such as the 3 Time of Troubles modules (ie Shadowdale, Tantras and Waterdeep) have been resolved. The Timte of Troubles is over and the gods have returned to the planes. Not all FR modules have been resolved though Sons of Gruumsh hasnt been out long enough to be resolved there may be some mention of the events that occur in SOG in the Mysteries of the Moonseas source book which comes out mid next year