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Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-07-08, 09:39 PM	What should I do? I'm a Pal10 Fist of Raziel4 and an other PC (Monk 14) Bhaalspawns, and an NPC told us that "there can only be one". Now he's ripping this from Bardul's Gate but I've never play the game before and I don't know what to do, I'M a paladin, I don't wanna kill the monk(or further push Bhaal's agenda). Any ideas ? Plz....
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 08:08 AM	What should I do? I'm a Pal10 Fist of Raziel4 and an other PC (Monk 14) Bhaalspawns, and an NPC told us that "there can only be one". Now he's ripping this from Bardul's Gate but I've never play the game before and I don't know what to do, I'M a paladin, I don't wanna kill the monk(or further push Bhaal's agenda). Any ideas ? Plz.... If he's trying to kill you, you kill the bastard first. If he doesn't want to kill you, then leave him alone. Since Adrian what'shisname is still running around you nor he won't be "The one" anyway so you're safe. There WERE good Bhaalspawn too as I recall.
Red_Wizard 01-08-08, 10:12 AM	There were, and perhaps are thousands of Bhaalspawn wandering the realms. The concept of only one, is derived from Bhaals plan laid down before his death, that a war of blood would return to him the essences of his children, and thus his divinity. Bhaalspawn by no means have to be evil, nor do they need to kill one another unless they wish to reclaim their fathers throne. If the monk believes otherwise, then his alignment, more-so than the taint, should be the topic in question. -RW P.S. Abdel Adrian opted not to take on his fathers throne.
Bonzai 01-08-08, 11:54 AM	What should I do?? Do you get the template with it? If so, enjoy the fast healing. I agree with the other poster. Defend yourself from the others, and perhaps even devote yourself to hunting down your evil siblings and stopping them from claiming Bhaals divinity.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-08-08, 12:45 PM	It's up to you what to do, but your DM's "there can only be one" statement is a bit silly. If you go around killing other people, that's evil, and you'd only be helping to push Bhaal's agenda. If you want to be a paladin, do exactly that--be a paladin. It's not true that Bhaalspawn HAVE to kill other Bhaalspawn. Behave like a paladin, and only kill people who deserve it (and don't ask for mercy). Even if the BG game, being a Bhaalspawn didn't force the PC to act against his/her alignment.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-08-08, 12:47 PM	Bhaalspawn by no means have to be evil, nor do they need to kill one another unless they wish to reclaim their fathers throne.. Well, remember too that Bhaal's throne was never intended as a "prize" for his children. Bhaal's intent was to come back, period, even if that wasn't how it worked out in the story.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-08-08, 12:49 PM	Do you get the template with it? If so, enjoy the fast healing. From what I recall about the Bhaalspawn template, I can't say I recommend it because it has "forced drawbacks" that good-aligned characters like this paladin probably wouldn't appreciate. And of course, no such template existed in the game, or even in the novels.
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 03:02 PM	Doesn't it only give drawbacks depending on your HD when it's applied or something like that? And you didn't get them all I don't think.
Bonzai 01-08-08, 03:40 PM	Bhaalspawn (a dragon, fey, giant, humanoid, monstrous humanoid, outsider or shapechanger that is infused with a spark of the Deity of Murder’s evil) (DR288 p100) Look like the normalbase creature. Becomes an Outsider. Natural Armor +1 CR +2 Receives Advantages & Penalties equal to ½HD+1 (min 2, max 11) Advantages: - Bull’s Strength, 3/day - Darkness, 3/day - Death Knell, 3/day - Endurance, 3/day - Cure Moderate Wounds, 3/day - Scare, 3/day - Cold Resistance 5 - Fire Resistance 5 - Damage Reduction 5/silver - Immune to poison - Heals 3hp per hour as long as he/she has at least 1hp. - Holy Smite (if good) or Unholy Blight (if evil), 1/day. - No longer takes penalties from aging & receives a +10 bonuson saves vs. death effects. - Can turn his/her own blood into Deathblade poison, 1/day. - Able to take the form of ‘The Slayer’ as a Standard Action. Gains +6 Natural armor, +8 Enhancement bonus to Strength, and a 1d10 claw attack, but takes 1 Constitution damage each round. Penalties: - Reckless: When below 50%, receive a –1 morale penalty to attacks & AC, until healed to over 50% hp. - Blood Thirsty: Must make a Will save vs. DC 20 to do subdual damage or not attack the maximum number of opponents. - At 0hp or less, goes into a coma until brought to 50% hp. - Loose 2 points of Wisdom (non-recoverable). - Loose 2 points of Charisma (non-recoverable). - Demon’s Blood: Blood is dark ichor. If the Bhaalspawn is bleeding, it can be smelled by Evil Outsiders. - Undead within 60’ are always aware of the Bhaalspawn’s location. - Infernal Temper: Becomes more hostile. If taunted, humiliated, or misses a skill roll by more than 5, the Bhaalspawn must make a Will save vs. DC (10 + amount skill roll was missed by) or receive a –1 Morale on all skill checks until one succeeds by more than 5. - Must murder someone who is not hostile to the Bhaalspawn every 13 days or loose 1 Wisdom per day until the murder is completed (at which point all Wisdom returns). - Nightmares: Each time the Bhaalspawn rests, he/she must make a Will save vs. DC 10 + 1 per day the nightmares were resisted. On a failure, roll a d4 to determine the effect until the next rest: 1) –2 Morale penalty on attacks, 2) –1 Morale penalty on saves, 3) no natural healing during the rest, 4) no effect. - Everyone who meets the Bhaalspawn initially distrusts him. - The Bhaalspawn is treated as Evil by all spells & effects (including Holy weapons). If actually evil, the Bhaalspawn takes damage from Holy Water.
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 05:39 PM	So does that mean you get all the disadvantages such as having to murder or go crazy? Or is it just a list of what you could have and do you pick which benefits or disadvantages you have?
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 05:57 PM	every time you get an avantege you get a disavantage (your choice)
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 07:17 PM	So when do you get an advantage and do you have to keep getting them?
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 07:20 PM	As for my DM yes, I have 7 disavanteges already
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 07:57 PM	Which disavantages and avantages did you get? If worse comes to worse just turn into the Slayer and rip the Monk's head off!
Red_Wizard 01-08-08, 08:22 PM	Well, remember too that Bhaal's throne was never intended as a "prize" for his children. Bhaal's intent was to come back, period, even if that wasn't how it worked out in the story. Indeed. I simply meant it more from their perspective, than their fathers intent for return. :) -RW
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 08:54 PM	Which disavantages and avantages did you get? If worse comes to worse just turn into the Slayer and rip the Monk's head off! -Blood Thirsty: (I have high throws) --Demon’s Blood: (killing evil is my forte) --Undead within 60’ are always aware of the Bhaalspawn’s location.: (same as above) -- Infernal Temper: (I bearly use my skills other than Knowledge) -- Nightmares: (the lesser evil) --Everyone who meets the Bhaalspawn initially distrusts him:(high CHA takes care of it) -- The Bhaalspawn is treated as Evil by all spells & effects
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-08-08, 09:11 PM	Doesn't it only give drawbacks depending on your HD when it's applied or something like that? And you didn't get them all I don't think. If I recall correctly, you would eventually get all the penalities if you got to a high enough level.
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 09:21 PM	You get to skip one (take a wild guess whitch one it is) I'll try to get my DM to get me a quest or something to get rib of the "bhaal's blood" before I reach lv 16 (the penalties in WIS and CHA hurt me too much not to mention that "murder" (not killing but murdering as in "cool blood)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-08-08, 09:36 PM	I was thinking, that template is bad for paladins on so many levels it's not funny. Getting rid of it would be a boon for you.
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 09:44 PM	Yeah, you need to do something to get rid of the bad blood. I'de keep my eyes on that monk too. You never know he might get tempted to kill you for your power....
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 09:50 PM	I know, I refuse to use the "advantages" of the template as a way of denying my blood sorta say... My DM has a rule that reads: "If you convice me, I allow it" so I have to come up this this "quest" to get it off, any ideas?
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 09:54 PM	Yeah, you need to do something to get rid of the bad blood. I'de keep my eyes on that monk too. You never know he might get tempted to kill you for your power.... He IS, my best friend plays the monk and I love that idiot to death but he "sees"(With good reason) that the monk is really tempted of that power (or the promise of it)
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 10:10 PM	All I can give you is this. "There can be only one..."
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 10:23 PM	LOL thanks, a can only imagine the battle with "Queen" playing in the back ground...
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 10:38 PM	LOL thanks, a can only imagine the battle with "Queen" playing in the back ground... What alignment is he? If he's Lawful Good than maybe he won't try anything. If he's LN or LE.....be prepared. What benefits do you have from the template? Can you or him assume Slayer form?
18DELTA 01-08-08, 10:55 PM	-Dude, I think you are screwed on so many level's.;) Just kill that Monk, and then go on a 'Serial Killer Spree' in game.:rolleyes: Make your Paladin Order Come hunt you down.:D Take as many as you can out, before they kill your poor soul.:P Teach your DM NOT to give out stupid templates in his game.:embarrass I mean sheesh did you have a choice on whether or not to get it? Was it an accident? I see the role playing opportunities, but that template suck's :censored: -Good Luck Soldier.:)
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 10:57 PM	He's LG on paper but it behaving LN(E?) lately and yes we both able to become SLAYERS
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 11:00 PM	He's LG on paper but it behaving LN(E?) lately and yes we both able to become SLAYERS I smell a confrontation! How are you and he built combat wise? Which bhaalspawn powers do you and him have? Edit: Does he have that weakness for Holy Water? If he turns evil splash him with some and laugh as he writhes like a little girl. Don't feel bad, you're the Child of Bhaal! There can be only one!
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 11:07 PM	-Dude, I think you are screwed on so many level's.;) Just kill that Monk, and then go on a 'Serial Killer Spree' in game.:rolleyes: Make your Paladin Order Come hunt you down.:D Take as many as you can out, before they kill your poor soul.:P Teach your DM NOT to give out stupid templates in his game.:embarrass I mean sheesh did you have a choice on whether or not to get it? Was it an accident? I see the role playing opportunities, but that template suck's :censored: -Good Luck Soldier.:) That retard Didn't gave me jack **** of a choice. after I reach lv 10 he waited for me go get lower than50% HP, and then my Paladin went berserk (in Slayer mode)! thankfully I didn't kill no one thank to the intervention of the party's rogue and a Sap (so embaracing) Airborne...
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 11:08 PM	That retard Didn't gave me jack **** of a choice. after I reach lv 10 he waited for me go get lower than50% HP, and then my Paladin went berserk (in Slayer mode)! thankfully I didn't kill no one thank to the intervention of the party's rogue and a Sap (so embaracing) Airborne... Which god do you serve, or do you serve just Raziel instead? Isn't he like some hyped up uber crusader? In which case he shouldn't mind too much if you killed the monk if he tried anything.
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 11:21 PM	I smell a confrontation! How are you and he built combat wise? Which bhaalspawn powers do you and him have? Edit: Does he have that weakness for Holy Water? If he turns evil splash him with some and laugh as he writhes like a little girl. Don't feel bad, you're the Child of Bhaal! There can be only one! He doen't have weakness to holy (otherwise is no contest) The build is of a power monk pretty much(not on purpouse since he's not as dedicated to DnD as I am), it a beast, STR 26 DEX 18(?) CON 16 WIS 18 CHA 9 AC of 32 HP 106 give or take tumble jump climb hide move silently maxed out improve grapple fiery blast and all that good stuff, but i'm pretty sure i can take him no prob(unless he "shift", then is anyone's game), the thing is that this is a 5 years campaing and I really would rather avoid the encounter (by getting my "curse" lift) so close of the characters "retirement"
18DELTA 01-08-08, 11:23 PM	That retard Didn't gave me jack **** of a choice. after I reach lv 10 he waited for me go get lower than50% HP, and then my Paladin went berserk (in Slayer mode)! thankfully I didn't kill no one thank to the intervention of the party's rogue and a Sap (so embaracing) Airborne... -Damn it looks like you got a ride on the DM's Rail road.:( -As Kenzuki is saying their can only be one. Attack him saying Richard Baker MUST be stopped!!!:D Or Chris Perkins MUST be stopped!!!;) -Airborne...or is it Chairborne?:D -Air assault...or is it Table Salt?;)
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 11:29 PM	He doen't have weakness to holy (otherwise is no contest) The build is of a power monk pretty much(not on purpouse since he's not as dedicated to DnD as I am), it a beast, STR 26 DEX 18(?) CON 16 WIS 18 CHA 9 AC of 32 HP 106 give or take tumble jump climb hide move silently maxed out improve grapple fiery blast and all that good stuff, but i'm pretty sure i can take him no prob(unless he "shift", then is anyone's game), the thing is that this is a 5 years campaing and I really would rather avoid the encounter (by getting my "curse" lift) so close of the characters "retirement" My advice to you is avoid confrontation if at all possible but keep an eye on him. If his alignment switches to evil can't you like smite the crap out of him? I don't have BoED but I hear that the Fist of Raziel is a pretty sweet class for fighting evil. Now tell me how you are built and your stats?
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 11:30 PM	Which god do you serve, or do you serve just Raziel instead? Isn't he like some hyped up uber crusader? In which case he shouldn't mind too much if you killed the monk if he tried anything. Nah I serve Torm(I call the PrC Fist of Torm in our game), another nice "spin" my DM has is that in his campin Torm is dead, and I'm his last faithful,(storywise my character died in the Battle of Bones in 1090 DR along with all the servants of Torm) and got resurected by a powerful Evil wizard(think Halaster) that wants to tap my power
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 11:33 PM	Nah I serve Torm(I call the PrC Fist of Torm in our game), another nice "spin" my DM has is that in his campin Torm is dead, and I'm his last faithful,(storywise my character died in the Battle of Bones in 1090 DR along with all the servants of Torm) and got resurected by a powerful Evil wizard(think Halaster) that wants to tap my power Interesting, well if Torm is dead where do you get your power from, Servant of the Fallen?
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 11:53 PM	My advice to you is avoid confrontation if at all possible but keep an eye on him. If his alignment switches to evil can't you like smite the crap out of him? I don't have BoED but I hear that the Fist of Raziel is a pretty sweet class for fighting evil. Now tell me how you are built and your stats? Oh yeah, :yay: if you're Evil It doesn't matter who you are(Mashoon, Halaster, Scyllua Darkhope, Fzoul or Artemis) you wanna turn around if you see a FoR. as for my stats: *Ahem* Odlanier Human Female(it was a male but a reicainate spell misfired) Pal 10 FoR 4 STR 20 (16 + Arm of Nyr +ioun stone) DeX 15 (13 + Arm of Nyr) CON 16 Int 12 WIS 16(14 + iounstone) CHA 24(18 cloack of CHA +6 AC 31 / 33 against Evil (FoR gives you a permanent magic circle against evil ) HP 150
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-08-08, 11:55 PM	Interesting, well if Torm is dead where do you get your power from, Servant of the Fallen? I asked that once and he told me "you don't know" but after I FaP came out I show him the feat and we agreed that I needed to take it.
Kenzuki 01-08-08, 11:56 PM	Ok so with Torm dead how are you getting spells? Do you have Servant of the Fallen feat or does some other power give them to you? Nice character by the way, I'de say the advantage is yours.
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 12:00 AM	Ok so with Torm dead how are you getting spells? Do you have Servant of the Fallen feat or does some other power give them to you? Nice character by the way, I'de say the advantage is yours. Both acctually, at first is was like "an unknow power is granting you with the power" but after the feat came out I took the feat for my peace of mind. And thank for the props it is my first character and i'm really proud of him/her :D
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 12:21 AM	All I can give you is this. "There can be only one..." -Nah, that line never works. I tell that to the Hands of Karsus all the time, and they've never tried to kill each other...Though, I often wonder what ever became of IrishWolf16, my Irish Hand.
Storm_Silverhand 01-09-08, 12:27 AM	Heya, Nah I serve Torm(I call the PrC Fist of Torm in our game), another nice "spin" my DM has is that in his campin Torm is dead, and I'm his last faithful,(storywise my character died in the Battle of Bones in 1090 DR along with all the servants of Torm) and got resurected by a powerful Evil wizard(think Halaster) that wants to tap my power Umm.. You know that none of the Raise Dead spells actually work that way. In order for them to be able to resurrect you (whether by a True Resurrection or Wish emulating a True Resurrection (which it can't do without a huge cost, since True Res is 9th level)), they need your character's permission and your character would know who was trying to raise them (souls know instinctively who is raising them and what the priest's alignment is/what deity they serve). Also, if Torm is dead, then your character's soul should have been no where to be found, since Torm's realm (and thus petitioners and whatnot) would have disappeared with him. At least, that's my understanding of how things work.
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 12:28 AM	-Nah, that line never works. I tell that to the Hands of Karsus all the time, and they've never tried to kill each other...Though, I often wonder what ever became of IrishWolf16, my Irish Hand. :gel:
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 12:38 AM	Heya, Umm.. You know that none of the Raise Dead spells actually work that way. In order for them to be able to resurrect you (whether by a True Resurrection or Wish emulating a True Resurrection (which it can't do without a huge cost, since True Res is 9th level)), they need your character's permission and your character would know who was trying to raise them (souls know instinctively who is raising them and what the priest's alignment is/what deity they serve). Also, if Torm is dead, then your character's soul should have been no where to be found, since Torm's realm (and thus petitioners and whatnot) would have disappeared with him. At least, that's my understanding of how things work. You are right and I'm aware of it, my DM however...:rolleyes: And also as you well know, one doesn't have to play ALL cannon (When I DM in the "junior leagues" as we called them I go as cannon as I can, my DM does otherwise) I'm sure Mr. Markus Tay do "his own thing" in the realm also and I considr him a Guru of sorts...
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 12:51 AM	:gel: -Threw him in the ol' Geletinous Cube, eh? Good for you! You get a .0067% raise! :ayyyy!:
18DELTA 01-09-08, 12:51 AM	-Nah, that line never works. I tell that to the Hands of Karsus all the time, and they've never tried to kill each other...Though, I often wonder what ever became of IrishWolf16, my Irish Hand. -Do you need a Texas Hand? You should have a hand in all 50 States, you know. Just like every Galaxy should have a Hand representing them in your Inter-Galatic Empire.:D :dragon: :behold::coolcthul :88E: :fight!: :mage: :incog: :fett: :emp::fett: :incog: :mage: :fight!: :88E: :coolcthul :behold: :dragon:
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 12:54 AM	@ DELTA You KNOW that I'm force to say "chairborne" the next time I get and order thanks to you right?
18DELTA 01-09-08, 12:55 AM	You are right and I'm aware of it, my DM however...:rolleyes: And also as you well know, one doesn't have to play ALL cannon (When I DM in the "junior leagues" as we called them I go as cannon as I can, my DM does otherwise) I'm sure Mr. Markus Tay do "his own thing" in the realm also and I considr him a Guru of sorts... -Hey don't say that to loud MarkusTay63 might hear it and get a big head about it.:shifty: :incog: :shifty:
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 12:56 AM	-Threw him in the ol' Geletinous Cube, eh? Good for you! You get a .0067% raise! :ayyyy!: :D YES!!!! I can finally aford that bubble gum outside the grossery store
18DELTA 01-09-08, 12:58 AM	@ DELTA You KNOW that I'm force to say "chairborne" the next time I get and order thanks to you right? -ROFL!!! At least your not a 'Sick Call Ranger', now are you?;) -Hooah!!!:fight!: :mage: :fight!:
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 01:03 AM	-Do you need a Texas Hand? You should have a hand in all 50 States, you know. Just like every Galaxy should have a Hand representing them in your Inter-Galatic Empire.:D :dragon: :behold::coolcthul :88E: :fight!: :mage: :incog: :fett: :emp::fett: :incog: :mage: :fight!: :88E: :coolcthul :behold: :dragon: -Are you willing to serve me, Lord Karsus, as a Hand of Karsus? While the pay is decent, you get good medical benefits- eye and dental are both included. However, I send you on all sorts of random assignments. :D YES!!!! I can finally aford that bubble gum outside the grossery store -Actually, they raised the price of gun from 25 cents to 35 cents (those bastards). So, you're still going to have to wait. :P
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 01:06 AM	LOL You dont even know. I got me a patch that says "sick call" tha you can put just over the ranger patch, my NCO almost ****** on himself lol Anyways... any ideas for a "worthy quest" to get my PC out of that "curse" ???
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 01:08 AM	-Are you willing to serve me, Lord Karsus, as a Hand of Karsus? While the pay is decent, you get good medical benefits- eye and dental are both included. However, I send you on all sorts of random assignments. That sound just like the Army -Actually, they raised the price of gun from 25 cents to 35 cents (those bastards). So, you're still going to have to wait. :P:eek: :weep:
18DELTA 01-09-08, 01:08 AM	-Are you willing to serve me, Lord Karsus, as a Hand of Karsus? While the pay is decent, you get good medical benefits- eye and dental are both included. However, I send you on all sorts of random assignments. -I await your command MASTER!:fight!: -Actually, they raised the price of gun from 25 cents to 35 cents (those bastards). So, you're still going to have to wait. :P -You are a generous Master!:D
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 01:09 AM	That sound just like the Army :rofl: -It does! :D -I await your command MASTER!:fight!: -Rise, Lord Delta...:emp: -You are a generous Master!:D -Indeed, I am.
18DELTA 01-09-08, 01:13 AM	LOL You dont even know. I got me a patch that says "sick call" tha you can put just over the ranger patch, my NCO almost ****** on himself lol -:D Anyways... any ideas for a "worthy quest" to get my PC out of that "curse" ??? -I say kick the Monk's a$$ from here to next Tuesday, myself. But the Dark Lord, Lord Karsus may have use for him yet!:monk:
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 01:19 AM	-:D -I say kick the Monk's a$$ from here to next Tuesday, myself. But the Dark Lord, Lord Karsus may have use for him yet!:monk: -Nah...And, look, I changed my Sig!
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 01:21 AM	LOL you are missing at least 3 hands tho PS nice detail with Irish icon
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 01:25 AM	LOL you are missing at least 3 hands tho PS nice detail with Irish icon -Yeah? Who? I take meticulous details...For example, I keep a MS Word document of every nice thing ever said about me, that also has information on all of the Hands of Karsus, as well as all of my confirmed clones.
Caemun 01-09-08, 01:27 AM	Need a European Hand of Karsus? Oh and ODoK, just kill the monk and get it over with, unless Lord Karsus of course, says otherwise. =P
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 01:29 AM	Heh, I don't hae the patience for that, well you are missing...MEthat Sol retard And the Elven Hand (starts w "A" Argentinian...)
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 01:34 AM	Need a European Hand of Karsus? Oh and ODoK, just kill the monk and get it over with, unless Lord Karsus of course, says otherwise. =P -Hmm...What skills do you bring to the table? Heh, I don't hae the patience for that, well you are missing...MEthat Sol retard And the Elven Hand (starts w "A" Argentinian...) :confused: -You and him are both there...
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 01:38 AM	Wow I'm blind :openeyes: I need to go to sleep... If anyone thinks of a quest that I can shove up my DM noselet me know ok.....
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 01:46 AM	Wow I'm blind :openeyes: I need to go to sleep... If anyone thinks of a quest that I can shove up my DM noselet me know ok..... -You can try something akin to what happened in Final Fantasy II/IV. The main character was a 'Dark Knight', and he traveled to the top of a mountain ('Mt. Ordeals') to "find himself". When he gets to the top, in a temple, or something, he fights a mirror image of himself. In the game, only if you defend, and don't attack yourself can you win. But, in this case, perhaps you can fight a duplicate of your character, maybe one if his evil Bhaalspawn nature fully took over. In eating this character, Torm (or whoever) should see how you were able to conquer the evil within you, and should strip you of the Bhaalspawn template, or all of the evil things that go along with it.
Caemun 01-09-08, 02:04 AM	-Hmm...What skills do you bring to the table? I've got so many, that the real question would have to be 'What skills don't you have' and seeing as I have more than enough, the question in itself therefore becomes irrelevant. Oh, did I mention I'm sarcastic and loyal? =P
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 02:12 AM	I've got so many, that the real question would have to be 'What skills don't you have' and seeing as I have more than enough, the question in itself therefore becomes irrelevant. Oh, did I mention I'm sarcastic and loyal? =P -Hmm...I like your style. Would you be willing to kick a puppy if I asked? Would you be willing to punch Markus, even though he has biceps the size of a house? Would you be willing to STOP RICH BAKER?
Caemun 01-09-08, 02:16 AM	-Hmm...I like your style. Would you be willing to kick a puppy if I asked? It probably had it coming. Would you be willing to punch Markus, even though he has biceps the size of a house? Of course, I just have to pick the right place to punch. Would you be willing to STOP RICH BAKER? Who wouldn't be?
18DELTA 01-09-08, 02:17 AM	-Nah... -Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus::fett: -Lord Karsus gave you the Green Light for an ARCLIGHT MISSION on that :monk: punk!!! :emp: And, look, I changed my Sig! -What a mighty Sig it is MASTER!!!;) Lord Delta:fight!:
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 02:28 AM	-Caemun, just sign on the dotted line here, and evething's good. What would you like your avatar speciality to be?
18DELTA 01-09-08, 11:48 AM	-Caemun, just sign on the dotted line here, and evething's good. What would you like your avatar speciality to be? -I think he got scared off.:f: :chicken: :P Lord DELTA :fight!:
Alediran 01-09-08, 12:14 PM	And the Elven Hand (starts w "A" Argentinian...) Somebody called the exterminator?
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-09-08, 12:47 PM	My DM has a rule that reads: "If you convice me, I allow it" so I have to come up this this "quest" to get it off, any ideas? I think that's a little unfair, considering he just slapped this template on you without warning (as I mentioned before, you don't NEED this template just because you're a Bhaalspawn--it wasn't in the game and it wasn't in the novels). I'm just saying I think your DM is being a little on the heavy-handed side.
18DELTA 01-09-08, 01:06 PM	-Yep as I said earlier, he caught a ride on the DM's railroad!:rolleyes: LORD DELTA :fight!:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-09-08, 01:13 PM	-Yep as I said earlier, he caught a ride on the DM's railroad!:rolleyes: LORD DELTA :fight!: I was thinking the same thing. This seems to be a case of railroading.
18DELTA 01-09-08, 01:18 PM	I was thinking the same thing. This seems to be a case of railroading. -CHOO, CHOO!!!;) LORD DELTA :fight!:
Sol_Odlanier 01-09-08, 01:35 PM	Whay's railroading? is it a term for when you get in the DMs plot?
Alediran 01-09-08, 01:49 PM	Whay's railroading? is it a term for when you get in the DMs plot? It's the kind of campaign that the DM "forces" you to play from point A to point B to point C without regards for player's choice (this is the extreme bad way, and it only works with complete newbies to show them the game, more experienced players loathe it) There is another way of railroading that it's subtler (I use it all the time) where the DM makes the players think it's their choice (even when it's not). For example, one of my players ended with a Devil Pact (a little punishment for some major faults :D) when he tried to rescue the soul of a friend that was stolen by demons in the Fugue Plane. He never realized where he was heading with his "choices", that was the evilest session I DMed. He's still shocked by the results because he considers me one of the Good DMs who preffer to fudge rolls in favor of the players.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-09-08, 04:16 PM	I call this case "railroading" because not only was an undesirable template slapped on the PC (which it itself might not be unfair, if it fits the story), but also because it is up to the player to convince the DM to take it away. I don't have all the facts of this situation, granted, but that implies--to me--that the DM had intended for this PC to keep the template permanently.
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 04:48 PM	Well I think that was the intent, since LV1 i was called "Hijo de Bhaal(Son of Bhaal)", and was looking foward to be a "saint" and I gave up on it cuz i nottice that my PC was becoming too powerful(compared to the rest of the party), and out of nowhere BAM
Caemun 01-09-08, 05:41 PM	-I think he got scared off.:f: :chicken: :P Lord DELTA :fight!: Nah, had to go to school. I had to go over there to say I'm quitting, to stay here to learn and to get my education from the all-mighty, Lord Karsus.
Kenzuki 01-09-08, 06:20 PM	I wonder what your DM would do if you gave in to your dark nature and killed the monk for his power. If he gets ****** off tell him it's his falt.
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-09-08, 10:15 PM	I wonder what your DM would do if you gave in to your dark nature and killed the monk for his power. If he gets ****** off tell him it's his falt. You see that's something he does. He take advantage of my LGoodness and he knows I wouldn't do that... He know that my Paladin's "Holy Quest(obsession?)" Is to rivive Torm (and his Church) and is to late to turn back...
Kenzuki 01-10-08, 08:50 AM	You see that's something he does. He take advantage of my LGoodness and he knows I wouldn't do that... He know that my Paladin's "Holy Quest(obsession?)" Is to rivive Torm (and his Church) and is to late to turn back... Why revive Torm when you could BECOME Bhaal!
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 01-10-08, 09:57 AM	Why revive Torm when you could BECOME Bhaal! Well as Rino said you don't "become" Bhaal you are a vessel for his esence (much in the same way Bane returned thru his son). The more likely event would be why would I take this divine essence of his followers (and some that I have to accuaire from a god) and give it to Torm when I can use it for my self (the same way Tiamat did)? My PPc is cursed with life, s/he will keep coming back to life until Torm comes back, and she's tired of fighting, she just wants to rest at last...
18DELTA 01-10-08, 11:58 AM	Well as Rino said you don't "become" Bhaal you are a vessel for his esence (much in the same way Bane returned thru his son). The more likely event would be why would I take this divine essence of his followers (and some that I have to accuaire from a god) and give it to Torm when I can use it for my self (the same way Tiamat did)? My PPc is cursed with life, s/he will keep coming back to life until Torm comes back, and she's tired of fighting, she just wants to rest at last... -So Ody Saraph of Karsus::fett: If your character was to die in the game. Would your character come back with that STUPID template on it? LORD DELTA:fight!:
Red_Wizard 01-10-08, 12:16 PM	No, the template would be gone. -RW
18DELTA 01-10-08, 12:59 PM	No, the template would be gone. -RW -Allrighty then. Ody Saraph of Karsus:fett: I guess its time to take out that :monk: then get killt to death by your Paladin order(If not yours, then go find one) while yelling RICHARD BAKER MUST BE STOPPED!!!;) Then return with a new character without that Gods awfull template and call it a day! Not only will you not have that template, your buddy wont have it either.:P LORD DELTA:fight!:
Sol_Odlanier 01-10-08, 02:45 PM	-So Ody Saraph of Karsus::fett: If your character was to die in the game. Would your character come back with that STUPID template on it? LORD DELTA:fight!: Acctually The Paladin had die twice, and it still comes back with the template.... (It Changes freaking gender but not the template)
18DELTA 01-10-08, 02:54 PM	Acctually The Paladin had die twice, and it stiff comes back with the template.... (It Changes freaking gender but not the template) -That must royally suck?;) :ahem: :bored: :uh-huh: :nonono: :bigeyes: :censored: :tantrum: :headexplo :banghead: :hoppingma :twitch: :shifty: :blink: :gah: :looloo: LORD DELTA:fight!:
Sol_Odlanier 01-10-08, 03:21 PM	:fight!: -That must royally suck?;) :ahem: :bored: :uh-huh: :nonono: :bigeyes: :censored: :tantrum: :headexplo :banghead: :hoppingma :twitch: :shifty: :blink: :gah: :looloo: LORD DELTA Indeed, then again I have the prerequisite Feat of being in the military (High Tolerance to Bull Sh..)Feat :D. All in all I'm not unhappy with the campain I just needed Ideas of a quest to get rid of the template. LK's idea is pretty good...
Lord Karsus 01-10-08, 07:15 PM	Nah, had to go to school. I had to go over there to say I'm quitting, to stay here to learn and to get my education from the all-mighty, Lord Karsus. -That's the spirit! :) LK's idea is pretty good... -I'm full of 'em.