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You say Po-tay-to, I say Po-tah-to. . . [Archive] - Wizards Community

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MooseTracks
06-18-03, 11:15 AM The pronunciation of Genasi has bothered me ever since they came out. No two people in the neighborhood seem to agree on how it is said.

Does WoTC have an answer?

:confused: sounds like = gennesse the beer?
:confused: sounds like = genocide without the 'D'?
:confused: sounds like = gen-ah-see with a hard 'G'?
:confused: sounds like = gen-ah-sigh with a hard 'G'?

Oh what the hey, while I'm on the subject, what about:

Faerun :
Fay-roon?
Fay-run?
Fair-roon?
Fair-run?

Myth Drannor
sounds like manner?
sounds like druh-nor?

Mordenkainen
I'm not even gonna try this one.
Faraer
06-18-03, 11:39 AM 'Official' pronunciations:

ge-NAH-see (hard g)
FAY-er-ROON or fay-ROON
MITH DRAN-nor
MOR-den-kay-nen

[edited to include Old Grey Box version of 'Faerûn']
Iakhovas
06-18-03, 11:53 AM I realize that recent publications say otherwise, but I'd like to point out that in the forward of the original 1st-Edition Forgotten Realms "DM's Sourcebook of the Realms", page 4, written by Ed Greenwood himself...

Faerûn is pronounced FAY-er-OON; the name meant "home" in a now-lost early human tongue.
Faraer
06-18-03, 12:31 PM Oh yeah. And that's how I pronounce 'Faerûn', in fact. (We can also agree that it doesn't rhyme with 'barren', as it was in the Baldur's Gate CRPG.)
MooseTracks
06-18-03, 01:16 PM Originally posted by Iakhovas
Faerûn is pronounced FAY-er-OON; the name meant "home" in a now-lost early human tongue.

Not clear on this statement 'human tongue'. Did you mean a REAL human language or a FANTASY language?

Is Faerun a real word?
Ivy
06-18-03, 01:21 PM Originally posted by Faraer
'Official' pronunciations:

ge-NAH-see (hard g)

Faraer, I'm just curious. Where is the pronunciation of genasi given?
Faraer
06-18-03, 01:28 PM A fantasy language, MooseTracks.

Genasi: on the same downloads page as the free Realms books (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/downloads) you can find three zip files of some TSR guy speaking Planescape words.
NiTessine
06-18-03, 02:08 PM Hrm. The explanation I know for the name Faerûn is that when the first elves first arrived, one of the elven nobles said he'd name the world 'Faerie', but the magic of the teleport distorted his speech into Faerûn. I believe this was from the novel Evermeet: Island of Elves. I cannot verify this, though, as I seem to have lost my copy.
Voidsoul
06-18-03, 03:52 PM >>The new pronunciation (for the new edition) is Fay-ROON, if im remembering correctly. Can't find the exact quote but I will.

>I've always pronounced Genasi with a soft G, so that's interesting info.
primemover003
06-18-03, 05:07 PM Genasi is pronounced ge-Nah-see (soft G). It's a generalized corruption of Djinn or Genie, considering that's where most of them derived their bloodlines from, some non-elemental Outsiders from the inner planes (Djinn, Marids, Efreet, Dao, Janni)

And any berk who's spoutin screed about Tiefling pronounced tee-fling is going to dance on the leafless tree. That'll lann you to the chant, cutter.
Ivy
06-18-03, 05:26 PM Thanks for your reply, Faeraer. :)

I was just curious because, like Primemover, I've always pronounced it with a soft 'g.'
VengefulGazeofGod
06-18-03, 06:30 PM I learned a long time ago, that no two people in the some room will pronounce the same two words the same way. I learned a long time ago to pronounce it as I please and to translate what others are saying.
:cool:
MooseTracks
06-18-03, 07:41 PM Originally posted by VengefulGazeofGod
I learned a long time ago, that no two people in the some room will pronounce the same two words the same way. I learned a long time ago to pronounce it as I please and it translate what others are saying.
:cool:

You are so right VGG. The friggin' Drizzit or Drizz (no vowel), T issue has been one of the longest standing disagreements around these parts. Even after the fact was proven about how to say it. Just can't sway certain people, even if it is gospel.
MooseTracks
06-18-03, 07:58 PM Is there a definitive answer as to the origins of the name 'Faerun' ?

Faraer says lost-human tongue.

Nitessine says the elves coined the term.
Saasiel
06-18-03, 08:36 PM I've always pronounced Faerun -> Fair-ROON.
IMO, I believe that Faerun is just a corruption of Faerie.
VengefulGazeofGod
06-19-03, 12:18 AM I think it's what Mr. Greenwood decided to call it. It sounds cool to me, so I really won't worry about it.
:cool:
Crust
06-19-03, 11:59 AM The pronunciation of "Qilue" has plagued me for years. Someone help.

Also, how does one pronounce "Tuigan?"

You can tell I'm reading Windwalker now, eh?

And by the way, wasn't it always, "Durnan?" Who's "Durham?"
Ivy
06-19-03, 01:33 PM Crust:

I believe Qilue is pronounced KEE-loo-ay.

Tuigan: TWEE-gan.
MooseTracks
06-19-03, 03:25 PM Originally posted by Crust
The pronunciation of "Qilue" has plagued me for years. Someone help.

Also, how does one pronounce "Tuigan?"

You can tell I'm reading Windwalker now, eh?

--or possibly

Qilue = kill you

Tuigan = tee gan
Iakhovas
06-19-03, 07:44 PM In the novel Evermeet: Island of Elves, Faerûn was an ancient elvish word that translated to "one-land". After the sundering, the name Faerûn was given to the largest remaining continent.
Kuje31
06-19-03, 08:08 PM Originally posted by Crust
The pronunciation of "Qilue" has plagued me for years. Someone help.

Also, how does one pronounce "Tuigan?"

You can tell I'm reading Windwalker now, eh?

And by the way, wasn't it always, "Durnan?" Who's "Durham?"

The Durham btw had/has to be a typo that either Elaine did or a editor did or either one and it didnt get caught when they edited. :). It made me pause also when I read it and ask Who?
Crust
06-20-03, 12:13 PM There are tons of editing mistakes in Windwalker.

Some direct examples from my copy:

"She shook his head" pg. 148, 6th paragraph.

"The dark elves reacted like birds startled into flight. Those who appeared to be sleep were on their feet in a heartbeat, weapons in hand" pg. 150, 12th paragraph.

There are also many, many spots where there are paired "to's" back to back, and a "do" where it's not needed, having already been used in the same sentence. I'm really suprised to see so many errors. I know EC can do her job, and it boggles the mind that something like "She shook his head" can get past so many eyes before publication. I'm really amazed.
Sarelle
06-20-03, 01:54 PM Originally posted by MooseTracks
--or possibly

Qilue = kill you

Tuigan = tee gan

Just to say it is definately not pronounced "Kill you" because it is actually written Qilué (the é being pronounced "ay" if you didn;t know, which is unlikely).
:)
sithramir
06-20-03, 02:25 PM Elaine Cunningham posted that all vowells are pronounced like so

a= ah (bad)
e= eh (like ben)
i = i (like kin or bin or sin)
u= uh (strut)
o = (hot)

So any of the names would be pronounced like that.

So it would be "Ge NAh se" (hard G)
Magus Occidentalus
06-21-03, 09:06 PM I know in real life words in English that have a q and no u, the q sounds like a cross between k and g. Kinda like is found in Qatar or Iraq. If that helps at all
Selvarin
06-22-03, 02:18 AM Interesting. Just my preference but Qilue seems to sound better when pronounced ky-lue. *shrug*

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
MooseTracks 06-18-03, 11:15 AM	The pronunciation of Genasi has bothered me ever since they came out. No two people in the neighborhood seem to agree on how it is said. Does WoTC have an answer? :confused: sounds like = gennesse the beer? :confused: sounds like = genocide without the 'D'? :confused: sounds like = gen-ah-see with a hard 'G'? :confused: sounds like = gen-ah-sigh with a hard 'G'? Oh what the hey, while I'm on the subject, what about: Faerun : Fay-roon? Fay-run? Fair-roon? Fair-run? Myth Drannor sounds like manner? sounds like druh-nor? Mordenkainen I'm not even gonna try this one.
Faraer 06-18-03, 11:39 AM	'Official' pronunciations: ge-NAH-see (hard g) FAY-er-ROON or fay-ROON MITH DRAN-nor MOR-den-kay-nen [edited to include Old Grey Box version of 'Faerûn']
Iakhovas 06-18-03, 11:53 AM	I realize that recent publications say otherwise, but I'd like to point out that in the forward of the original 1st-Edition Forgotten Realms "DM's Sourcebook of the Realms", page 4, written by Ed Greenwood himself... Faerûn is pronounced FAY-er-OON; the name meant "home" in a now-lost early human tongue.
Faraer 06-18-03, 12:31 PM	Oh yeah. And that's how I pronounce 'Faerûn', in fact. (We can also agree that it doesn't rhyme with 'barren', as it was in the Baldur's Gate CRPG.)
MooseTracks 06-18-03, 01:16 PM	Originally posted by Iakhovas Faerûn is pronounced FAY-er-OON; the name meant "home" in a now-lost early human tongue. Not clear on this statement 'human tongue'. Did you mean a REAL human language or a FANTASY language? Is Faerun a real word?
Ivy 06-18-03, 01:21 PM	Originally posted by Faraer 'Official' pronunciations: ge-NAH-see (hard g) Faraer, I'm just curious. Where is the pronunciation of genasi given?
Faraer 06-18-03, 01:28 PM	A fantasy language, MooseTracks. Genasi: on the same downloads page as the free Realms books (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/downloads) you can find three zip files of some TSR guy speaking Planescape words.
NiTessine 06-18-03, 02:08 PM	Hrm. The explanation I know for the name Faerûn is that when the first elves first arrived, one of the elven nobles said he'd name the world 'Faerie', but the magic of the teleport distorted his speech into Faerûn. I believe this was from the novel Evermeet: Island of Elves. I cannot verify this, though, as I seem to have lost my copy.
Voidsoul 06-18-03, 03:52 PM	>>The new pronunciation (for the new edition) is Fay-ROON, if im remembering correctly. Can't find the exact quote but I will. >I've always pronounced Genasi with a soft G, so that's interesting info.
primemover003 06-18-03, 05:07 PM	Genasi is pronounced ge-Nah-see (soft G). It's a generalized corruption of Djinn or Genie, considering that's where most of them derived their bloodlines from, some non-elemental Outsiders from the inner planes (Djinn, Marids, Efreet, Dao, Janni) And any berk who's spoutin screed about Tiefling pronounced tee-fling is going to dance on the leafless tree. That'll lann you to the chant, cutter.
Ivy 06-18-03, 05:26 PM	Thanks for your reply, Faeraer. :) I was just curious because, like Primemover, I've always pronounced it with a soft 'g.'
VengefulGazeofGod 06-18-03, 06:30 PM	I learned a long time ago, that no two people in the some room will pronounce the same two words the same way. I learned a long time ago to pronounce it as I please and to translate what others are saying. :cool:
MooseTracks 06-18-03, 07:41 PM	Originally posted by VengefulGazeofGod I learned a long time ago, that no two people in the some room will pronounce the same two words the same way. I learned a long time ago to pronounce it as I please and it translate what others are saying. :cool: You are so right VGG. The friggin' Drizzit or Drizz (no vowel), T issue has been one of the longest standing disagreements around these parts. Even after the fact was proven about how to say it. Just can't sway certain people, even if it is gospel.
MooseTracks 06-18-03, 07:58 PM	Is there a definitive answer as to the origins of the name 'Faerun' ? Faraer says lost-human tongue. Nitessine says the elves coined the term.
Saasiel 06-18-03, 08:36 PM	I've always pronounced Faerun -> Fair-ROON. IMO, I believe that Faerun is just a corruption of Faerie.
VengefulGazeofGod 06-19-03, 12:18 AM	I think it's what Mr. Greenwood decided to call it. It sounds cool to me, so I really won't worry about it. :cool:
Crust 06-19-03, 11:59 AM	The pronunciation of "Qilue" has plagued me for years. Someone help. Also, how does one pronounce "Tuigan?" You can tell I'm reading Windwalker now, eh? And by the way, wasn't it always, "Durnan?" Who's "Durham?"
Ivy 06-19-03, 01:33 PM	Crust: I believe Qilue is pronounced KEE-loo-ay. Tuigan: TWEE-gan.
MooseTracks 06-19-03, 03:25 PM	Originally posted by Crust The pronunciation of "Qilue" has plagued me for years. Someone help. Also, how does one pronounce "Tuigan?" You can tell I'm reading Windwalker now, eh? --or possibly Qilue = kill you Tuigan = tee gan
Iakhovas 06-19-03, 07:44 PM	In the novel Evermeet: Island of Elves, Faerûn was an ancient elvish word that translated to "one-land". After the sundering, the name Faerûn was given to the largest remaining continent.
Kuje31 06-19-03, 08:08 PM	Originally posted by Crust The pronunciation of "Qilue" has plagued me for years. Someone help. Also, how does one pronounce "Tuigan?" You can tell I'm reading Windwalker now, eh? And by the way, wasn't it always, "Durnan?" Who's "Durham?" The Durham btw had/has to be a typo that either Elaine did or a editor did or either one and it didnt get caught when they edited. :). It made me pause also when I read it and ask Who?
Crust 06-20-03, 12:13 PM	There are tons of editing mistakes in Windwalker. Some direct examples from my copy: "She shook his head" pg. 148, 6th paragraph. "The dark elves reacted like birds startled into flight. Those who appeared to be sleep were on their feet in a heartbeat, weapons in hand" pg. 150, 12th paragraph. There are also many, many spots where there are paired "to's" back to back, and a "do" where it's not needed, having already been used in the same sentence. I'm really suprised to see so many errors. I know EC can do her job, and it boggles the mind that something like "She shook his head" can get past so many eyes before publication. I'm really amazed.
Sarelle 06-20-03, 01:54 PM	Originally posted by MooseTracks --or possibly Qilue = kill you Tuigan = tee gan Just to say it is definately not pronounced "Kill you" because it is actually written Qilué (the é being pronounced "ay" if you didn;t know, which is unlikely). :)
sithramir 06-20-03, 02:25 PM	Elaine Cunningham posted that all vowells are pronounced like so a= ah (bad) e= eh (like ben) i = i (like kin or bin or sin) u= uh (strut) o = (hot) So any of the names would be pronounced like that. So it would be "Ge NAh se" (hard G)
Magus Occidentalus 06-21-03, 09:06 PM	I know in real life words in English that have a q and no u, the q sounds like a cross between k and g. Kinda like is found in Qatar or Iraq. If that helps at all
Selvarin 06-22-03, 02:18 AM	Interesting. Just my preference but Qilue seems to sound better when pronounced ky-lue. shrug