About Hoar and Paladin [Archive] - Wizards Community

About Hoar and Paladin [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Izarus
03-27-07, 10:47 AM My english is not very well but am a big fan of RO and i have somting to ask about Hoar , can a paladin be a Hoar fallower ?
Khaelieth
03-27-07, 12:59 PM Certainly.
customdrapery
03-27-07, 01:52 PM Hurm...Paladins of Revenge...or would that be Paladins of Poetic Justice. Either way, kind of interesting, eye for an eye and all that. Allowed by the rules, I guess.
Old Sage
03-27-07, 09:05 PM The Fellowship of Poetic Justice is an order comprised mostly of bards and crusaders. And they are dedicated to both Hoar AND Tyr.

See Hoar's entry in Powers & Pantheons.
BrennonGoldeye
03-27-07, 09:32 PM The Fellowship of Poetic Justice is an order comprised mostly of bards and crusaders. And they are dedicated to both Hoar AND Tyr.

See Hoar's entry in Powers & Pantheons.

Though my alignment procludes membership, I am an ardent supporter. :fight!:
Another Gnome
03-28-07, 06:05 PM FR paladins are still subject to being lawful good and avoiding straight up evil deeds, but other than that their code of conduct is defined by the dogma of their deity. As such, a paladin of Hoar might easily get away with actions a more kindly inclined patron deity would abhor.

Sure, our goody-two-shoes couldn't just go and push a wrong-doer off the roof, but let's say someone just happens to have knocked a few roof tiles loose the night before our paladin chases said wrong-doer on said roof, with a perfectly innocent combination of Bluff and Intimidation checkes threatening to bring justice upon him one way or another, and the wrong-doer just so happens to step on those loose tiles after a little totally coincidential maneuvering to get him closer to the edge, and our paladin just so happens to look the other way when the guy takes a plunge. Into that stack of spears someone accidentally forgot there right underneath those unfortunately loose tiles.

A terrible tragedy, but hey, freak accidents happen.

No, I'm not really suggesting a paladin would do something like that -- and the defense would remind the members of the jury that there's only circumstantial evidence of my client having had any prior knowledge of the transpired events to begin with -- but the point is that Hoar wouldn't give a damn if the claimed conspiracy had in fact taken place with one of his paladins present on the scene.
Tyrant of the Moonsea
03-28-07, 08:00 PM I'd think Gray Guards from Complete Scoundrel would be perfect as paladins of Hoar....
Burningspear
04-01-07, 08:13 PM A friend of mine actually tried to play a paladin of Hoar in Ravenloft, with his character originating from Fearuhn,
It was damn difficult to keep up, specially because the paladin ethos precludes doubtful ideas from being allowed and remaining a "proper" paladin himself,
In Ravenloft and at least considering his character, he had better stuck to a cleric fighter, emulating all that is Hoar and a paladin, nut not being stuck in the paladins ethos of conduct. as it barely worked...

Hoar is to easy on that respect to what a paladin should be allowed.

Edit:
But then again, his concept i thought sucked in depth, as he was a "female Fullplate/ Greatsword (Booooooooooooring) wielding palladin", very card booard in my opinion.
:plotting:
Burningspear
04-01-07, 08:35 PM Just to show my love for Hoar:
Dragon 297 has a article with a prestige class:
Knight of the chase,

The prereq. are not quite Hoar but still in the class itself i get a feeling of Hoar in a sense..

change the prerequisites to something like:
Any Lawful,
Bab +6,
Survival 6,
Hide in Shadows 6,
Move Silent 6,

Add the following skills to in class:
Gather Info, Intimidate, Know.Local, Arcana, Sense Motive, Spellcraft.

Class abilities:
Insight of Vengeance:
+1 for Javelin and +1 for any one weapon currently used to subdue/ kill the target with to give him fitting revenge.

Flight of Kelestro:
affects Javelin.

Nemoud's and Harrukin ??? dunno :tie:

Bab: Cleric,

Saves as per Cleric,

Spells per day:+1 lvl per 2 actual lvl's
(must be able to cast holy spells)

And 2 links to give u some more info and ideas perhaps:
http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5062919&postcount=268

http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=10795912&postcount=463
Burningspear
04-02-07, 10:30 PM Hand's of Poetic Justice:

Any Lawful,
Bab +6,
Skills:
Survival 6,
Hide in Shadows 6,
Move Silent 6,
Feat’s:
True Believer

Add the following skills to in class:
Gather Info, Intimidate, Know.Local, Arcana, Sense Motive, Spellcraft.

Skill points per lvl: 4 + int. mod.

Level Special Caster Levels
1st Track +1 caster lvl
2nd Insight of Vengeance
3rd Retribution Domain +1
4th +1
5th Flight of Kelestro
6th +1
7th +1
8th Hoar's Strike
9th +1
10th Doom of Inescapable Retribution

Bab, Saves are as per cleric.

Class abilities:
Insight of Vengeance:
+1 for Javelin and +1 for any one weapon currently used to subdue/ kill the target with to give him fitting revenge.

Flight of Kelestro:
affects Javelin.

Hoar's Strike:
3 x a day the chosen may make a retributive strike after being wounded as per retribution domain ab.(each strike is accompanied by a loud thunder, audible up to a mile away in all directions, no side affect)
if however all 3 strikes are aimed at the same target,
(1st and 2nd time there is no need to hit for the 3rd rnd ab. to actually work) the 3rd attempt automatically hits and is a critical.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Izarus 03-27-07, 10:47 AM	My english is not very well but am a big fan of RO and i have somting to ask about Hoar , can a paladin be a Hoar fallower ?
Khaelieth 03-27-07, 12:59 PM	Certainly.
customdrapery 03-27-07, 01:52 PM	Hurm...Paladins of Revenge...or would that be Paladins of Poetic Justice. Either way, kind of interesting, eye for an eye and all that. Allowed by the rules, I guess.
Old Sage 03-27-07, 09:05 PM	The Fellowship of Poetic Justice is an order comprised mostly of bards and crusaders. And they are dedicated to both Hoar AND Tyr. See Hoar's entry in Powers & Pantheons.
BrennonGoldeye 03-27-07, 09:32 PM	The Fellowship of Poetic Justice is an order comprised mostly of bards and crusaders. And they are dedicated to both Hoar AND Tyr. See Hoar's entry in Powers & Pantheons. Though my alignment procludes membership, I am an ardent supporter. :fight!:
Another Gnome 03-28-07, 06:05 PM	FR paladins are still subject to being lawful good and avoiding straight up evil deeds, but other than that their code of conduct is defined by the dogma of their deity. As such, a paladin of Hoar might easily get away with actions a more kindly inclined patron deity would abhor. Sure, our goody-two-shoes couldn't just go and push a wrong-doer off the roof, but let's say someone just happens to have knocked a few roof tiles loose the night before our paladin chases said wrong-doer on said roof, with a perfectly innocent combination of Bluff and Intimidation checkes threatening to bring justice upon him one way or another, and the wrong-doer just so happens to step on those loose tiles after a little totally coincidential maneuvering to get him closer to the edge, and our paladin just so happens to look the other way when the guy takes a plunge. Into that stack of spears someone accidentally forgot there right underneath those unfortunately loose tiles. A terrible tragedy, but hey, freak accidents happen. No, I'm not really suggesting a paladin would do something like that -- and the defense would remind the members of the jury that there's only circumstantial evidence of my client having had any prior knowledge of the transpired events to begin with -- but the point is that Hoar wouldn't give a damn if the claimed conspiracy had in fact taken place with one of his paladins present on the scene.
Tyrant of the Moonsea 03-28-07, 08:00 PM	I'd think Gray Guards from Complete Scoundrel would be perfect as paladins of Hoar....
Burningspear 04-01-07, 08:13 PM	A friend of mine actually tried to play a paladin of Hoar in Ravenloft, with his character originating from Fearuhn, It was damn difficult to keep up, specially because the paladin ethos precludes doubtful ideas from being allowed and remaining a "proper" paladin himself, In Ravenloft and at least considering his character, he had better stuck to a cleric fighter, emulating all that is Hoar and a paladin, nut not being stuck in the paladins ethos of conduct. as it barely worked... Hoar is to easy on that respect to what a paladin should be allowed. Edit: But then again, his concept i thought sucked in depth, as he was a "female Fullplate/ Greatsword (Booooooooooooring) wielding palladin", very card booard in my opinion. :plotting:
Burningspear 04-01-07, 08:35 PM	Just to show my love for Hoar: Dragon 297 has a article with a prestige class: Knight of the chase, The prereq. are not quite Hoar but still in the class itself i get a feeling of Hoar in a sense.. change the prerequisites to something like: Any Lawful, Bab +6, Survival 6, Hide in Shadows 6, Move Silent 6, Add the following skills to in class: Gather Info, Intimidate, Know.Local, Arcana, Sense Motive, Spellcraft. Class abilities: Insight of Vengeance: +1 for Javelin and +1 for any one weapon currently used to subdue/ kill the target with to give him fitting revenge. Flight of Kelestro: affects Javelin. Nemoud's and Harrukin ??? dunno :tie: Bab: Cleric, Saves as per Cleric, Spells per day:+1 lvl per 2 actual lvl's (must be able to cast holy spells) And 2 links to give u some more info and ideas perhaps: http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=5062919&postcount=268 http://boards1.wizards.com/showpost.php?p=10795912&postcount=463
Burningspear 04-02-07, 10:30 PM	Hand's of Poetic Justice: Any Lawful, Bab +6, Skills: Survival 6, Hide in Shadows 6, Move Silent 6, Feat’s: True Believer Add the following skills to in class: Gather Info, Intimidate, Know.Local, Arcana, Sense Motive, Spellcraft. Skill points per lvl: 4 + int. mod. Level Special Caster Levels 1st Track +1 caster lvl 2nd Insight of Vengeance 3rd Retribution Domain +1 4th +1 5th Flight of Kelestro 6th +1 7th +1 8th Hoar's Strike 9th +1 10th Doom of Inescapable Retribution Bab, Saves are as per cleric. Class abilities: Insight of Vengeance: +1 for Javelin and +1 for any one weapon currently used to subdue/ kill the target with to give him fitting revenge. Flight of Kelestro: affects Javelin. Hoar's Strike: 3 x a day the chosen may make a retributive strike after being wounded as per retribution domain ab.(each strike is accompanied by a loud thunder, audible up to a mile away in all directions, no side affect) if however all 3 strikes are aimed at the same target, (1st and 2nd time there is no need to hit for the 3rd rnd ab. to actually work) the 3rd attempt automatically hits and is a critical.