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Are these Elven gods official Realms deities? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Razz
05-31-07, 06:17 PM In the issues of Dragon Magazine #236 and #251, details on more deities of the Seldarine were given and said to have their place in Forgotten Realms (also mentioned Snow Elves existing in the far north of the Spine of the World or the High Ice possibly...now I can make good use of them from Frostburn).

I'm curious, but are these all official Realms deities or only some of them or none of them now? I think I should also post this on Richard Baker's thread, too:

Alathrien Druanna (Demigod of conjurations, rune magic, geometric magic)
Araleth Letheranil (Lesser God of Light, Twilight, and Starlight)
Darahl Firecloak (Demi/Lesser God of earth and flame phenomena, earth and fire magic, and evocation magic)
Kirith Sotheril (Lesser God of Divination and Enchantment Magic)
Melira Taralen (Lesser God of half-elven bards, elven minstrels, song writers)
Mythrian Sareth (Demigod of protection, Abjuration magic, and mythals)
Naralis Analor (Lesser God of Healing, easing of pain, death)
Tarsellis Meunniduin (Intermediate God of mountains, rivers, snow elves, wilderness)
Rellavar Danuvien (Lesser God of frost sprites [probably uldra and other cold-related fey creatures], protection from elements, ice magic)
Sarula Iliene (Lesser God of lakes, streams, nixies, and water magic)
Tethrin Veraldé (Demigod of bladesingers, swordsmanship, evocation magic)

Thanks for any info you Realms lore fans can provide. I'm trying to update my list of official Realms deities for the folks here on the forums and for my players when they choose their patron deities.
GothicDan
05-31-07, 06:22 PM Dragon is official. They were presented before the Seldarine of FR were separate from the Seldarine of core. :)

I also need to add that I absolutely love a lot of those gods. Almost all of them in fact, and do not dislike any of them.
Faraer
05-31-07, 06:43 PM Demihuman Deities, published two years after "The Seldarine Revisited", doesn't mention its gods, and Chris Perry's articles don't seem to be treated as canonical in current sources. I'd ask Richard, to be sure. Chris, do you know?
GothicDan
05-31-07, 07:15 PM Hm... Typically Dragon stuff is treated as canon. It'd be weird if in this case they weren't.

It really wouldn't bug me, though. I'd probably include them anyway in my own games (since they're only demigods).
Kelmech_Ra
05-31-07, 07:44 PM Does anyone know if Fenmarel Mestarine is in Forgotten Realms? He is the patron god of the feral elves, like grugach, scapegoats, and isolation.

Edit: I almost forgot to add that he is a lesser power.
Old Sage
05-31-07, 08:18 PM He is. See Demihuman Deities.
Kelmech_Ra
05-31-07, 08:32 PM He is. See Demihuman Deities.

Thanks for the info.
Razz
05-31-07, 08:59 PM Hm... Typically Dragon stuff is treated as canon. It'd be weird if in this case they weren't.

It really wouldn't bug me, though. I'd probably include them anyway in my own games (since they're only demigods).

I agree and I know that Dragon Magazine is canon, too. I'm just wondering if the deities, any, some, or all of them were officially in the Realms Seldarine?

Dragon #236 referenced both the Realms and Greyhawk, but never stated for certain if they were members of the Realms Seldarine.

Dragon #251, however, I noticed was different. Analyzing Chris Perry's writing, I've noticed he intentionally meant for the 4 new elven deities to be members of the Realms Seldarine just by reading the descriptive text for the deities presented. I am assuming those 4 definitely deserve their place in Realms Seldarine, but I don't think any FR designer has officially said "ok" to it or if they even remember that article.
MerrikCale
06-02-07, 01:03 PM I also need to add that I absolutely love a lot of those gods. Almost all of them in fact, and do not dislike any of them.

we agree. I wouldlike to see a further work on FR gods, particularly those of the other races, elves, dwarves, etc. Now that we have goliaths at least, we can include these too.
Lord Karsus
06-03-07, 12:52 AM -These deities will be getting write-ups in Elves of Faerûn, and as far as I am concerned, they exist in the Realms.
Razz
06-03-07, 09:50 AM -These deities will be getting write-ups in Elves of Faerûn, and as far as I am concerned, they exist in the Realms.

Elves of Faerun? Is that a new book coming out? I never heard of it...
Alediran
06-03-07, 10:00 AM Elves of Faerun? Is that a new book coming out? I never heard of it...

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=732165
Lord Karsus
06-03-07, 06:00 PM Elves of Faerun? Is that a new book coming out? I never heard of it...

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=732165

-Thank you, Alediran. I swear, I'm going to kill the next person who asks that question...:rolleyes:
XHereticX
06-03-07, 06:33 PM So..when is it expected?
Lord Karsus
06-03-07, 06:55 PM -I have no clue. I don't have school until August, but I'm working full time. I do what I can, when I can. I'm sure that everyone has similar situations. But, I've said it many times- I'm not going to sacrifice quality for the sake of expediancy.
XHereticX
06-03-07, 07:13 PM -I have no clue. I don't have school until August, but I'm working full time. I do what I can, when I can. I'm sure that everyone has similar situations. But, I've said it many times- I'm not going to sacrifice quality for the sake of expediancy.

Actually, I don't disagree with you there. I'm in no hurry anyway. The longer the wait, the sweeter the reward.
MerrikCale
06-03-07, 11:02 PM Elves of Faerun? What the heck is that? Is that anything like races of Faerun? I'm so excited, I thought the Grand History was the only sourcebook coming out. Finally. WoTC will put out the definitive elven sourcebook. You must very excited LK.
Lord Karsus
06-03-07, 11:39 PM Elves of Faerun? What the heck is that? Is that anything like races of Faerun?

-Sort of. Only, the focus is on Elves.

I'm so excited, I thought the Grand History was the only sourcebook coming out.

-Um, it is.

Finally. WoTC will put out the definitive elven sourcebook. You must very excited LK.

-I am excited, but WotC has nothing to do with anything.
Soltares
06-04-07, 03:29 AM Alathrien Druanna (Demigod of conjurations, rune magic, geometric magic)
Araleth Letheranil (Lesser God of Light, Twilight, and Starlight)
Darahl Firecloak (Demi/Lesser God of earth and flame phenomena, earth and fire magic, and evocation magic)
Kirith Sotheril (Lesser God of Divination and Enchantment Magic)
Melira Taralen (Lesser God of half-elven bards, elven minstrels, song writers)
Mythrian Sareth (Demigod of protection, Abjuration magic, and mythals)
Naralis Analor (Lesser God of Healing, easing of pain, death)
Tarsellis Meunniduin (Intermediate God of mountains, rivers, snow elves, wilderness)
Rellavar Danuvien (Lesser God of frost sprites [probably uldra and other cold-related fey creatures], protection from elements, ice magic)
Sarula Iliene (Lesser God of lakes, streams, nixies, and water magic)
Tethrin Veraldé (Demigod of bladesingers, swordsmanship, evocation magic)

I've played a Cleric of Kirith Sotheril myself, and used all four of those gods (Melira Taralen, Naralis Analor and Araleth Letheranil) in my Realms games.

Regardless of what's 'official,' it's not like Mythrian Sareth can *not* be a Realms-god, since no other setting uses Mythals. :)

Then again, I don't use Sehanine Moonbow. Big phony, claiming to be Corellon's first wife (which was Araushalnee, in the Realms), claiming to be one who created the elven races from Corellon's shed blood, claiming to be be the elven goddess of magic, claming all sorts of bogus crap. I don't care how official she is. She's evil. [Mermaid-Man] EEEEVVVIIILLL! [/mermaid-man]
Alediran
06-04-07, 09:23 AM Elves of Faerun? What the heck is that? Is that anything like races of Faerun? I'm so excited, I thought the Grand History was the only sourcebook coming out. Finally. WoTC will put out the definitive elven sourcebook. You must very excited LK.

It's fanmade, so was A Grand History of the Realms. Who knows, maybe one day WotC recognizes our effort and makes it a book.

P.S: LK, I was thinking yesterday (when my stomachache allowed me) the creation of two new types of Hands of Karsus, the elven hand and the dark elven hand.
Lord Karsus
06-04-07, 10:54 AM P.S: LK, I was thinking yesterday (when my stomachache allowed me) the creation of two new types of Hands of Karsus, the elven hand and the dark elven hand.

-Are you volunteering for one of those two positions? Mmmm?
Alediran
06-04-07, 10:58 AM -Are you volunteering for one of those two positions? Mmmm?

When it comes to quick answers about the netbook I'm always there :P
Lord Karsus
06-04-07, 11:17 AM -This is a big step, are you sure? You'll need to swear allegiance to me (and KtM, and our lost 1/3), and be ready to be called upon. You'll get a great medical and dental plan, plus good life insurance coverage. Also, paid lunch.
Alediran
06-04-07, 11:21 AM -This is a big step, are you sure? You'll need to swear allegiance to me (and KtM, and our lost 1/3), and be ready to be called upon. You'll get a great medical and dental plan, plus good life insurance coverage. Also, paid lunch.

Tis' I swear by the elven blood of my ancestors.

And the life insurance is good, you never know when you need a True Resurrection
Lord Karsus
06-04-07, 03:56 PM -Excellent.

-Rise, Lord Alediran...You are a Hand of Karsus...:emp:
Alediran
06-04-07, 04:00 PM ELVEN Hand of Karsus (double arrogance :P)

- Yes master. I live to serve.
MerrikCale
06-22-07, 09:49 PM -
-I am excited, but WotC has nothing to do with anything.

I know. By the way, are these gods presented anywhere else?
Lord Karsus
06-23-07, 12:22 AM I know. By the way, are these gods presented anywhere else?

-Nope. Only in those two magazines, both of which are sold out, according to the Paizo website. :(
MerrikCale
06-23-07, 10:51 AM there are other elven gods in Races of the Wild are there not?
Razz
06-23-07, 02:14 PM there are other elven gods in Races of the Wild are there not?

There is, but none of them are officially Realms deities. Heck, some of them aren't even official deities in ANY campaign setting because some of elven deities in there are brand new to 3E.
MerrikCale
06-23-07, 02:44 PM There is, but none of them are officially Realms deities. Heck, some of them aren't even official deities in ANY campaign setting because some of elven deities in there are brand new to 3E.

well, if warlocks, favored souls and goliaths are official, can the new Elven dieites be far behind?
Lord Karsus
06-23-07, 05:52 PM -At this point, who knows?
MerrikCale
06-23-07, 09:29 PM I suppose the better question is do we like the additional elven gods in Races of the Wild. I don't have the book at this point but I'm mulling it over.
Lord Karsus
06-23-07, 10:26 PM -I don't think we do. Though I don't have the book, Dan has mentioned that Races of the Wild is, overall, pretty bad, and I trust his judgement.
Razz
06-23-07, 11:41 PM I didn't think Races of the Wild was bad. It wasn't as awesome as Races of Stone, but it wasn't as bad as, say, Cityscape or Mysteries of the Moonsea was.
Dark Wizard
06-24-07, 12:00 AM -I don't think we do. Though I don't have the book, Dan has mentioned that Races of the Wild is, overall, pretty bad, and I trust his judgement.

I think the deities in Races of the Wild were designed for the core in mind and not FR, that's the main problem keeping them from working with the Realms. Some of them need heavy adaption (others not so much). A while back I threw around the idea of working (a massively modified) Vandria Gilmadrith into the Realms, but I was met with strong disinterest. I still have my notes somewhere. It's one of my weirder tangents.
Todesherr
06-24-07, 02:15 AM Can anyone post stats and profile information on these gods? I've actually never heard of of them...but then again I am a casual player trapped on the other side of the world...;)
MerrikCale
06-24-07, 08:07 AM -I don't think we do. Though I don't have the book, Dan has mentioned that Races of the Wild is, overall, pretty bad, and I trust his judgement.

As do I for the most part
GothicDan
06-24-07, 04:13 PM With the presence of Corellon, Sheverash, and (Insert Bladesinger Deity's name here that I always forget), I just see Vandria as being about as redundant as you can get. Especially considering the minority of Lawful Elves, which are primarily Sun Elves, who worship Corellon almost exclusively, and followed as distant seconds by a few other members of the core Seldarine; I don't think Vandria would have enough worship.

Races of the Wild is only bad if you try to apply any of it to the Realms. The parts on Elven culture and the like are just completely nonapplicable.
Lord Karsus
06-25-07, 09:20 AM Races of the Wild is only bad if you try to apply any of it to the Realms. The parts on Elven culture and the like are just completely nonapplicable.

-Completely useless, then.
MerrikCale
06-27-07, 12:06 AM With the presence of Corellon, Sheverash, and (Insert Bladesinger Deity's name here that I always forget),

what bladesinger deity is official in the Realms?

Races of the Wild is only bad if you try to apply any of it to the Realms. The parts on Elven culture and the like are just completely nonapplicable.

Since I do not own that volume, could you tell me why you say that?
Dark Wizard
06-27-07, 12:20 AM what bladesinger deity is official in the Realms?

Tethrin Veralde (The Shining One, the Master of Blades), Demipower of Elysium NG. Portfolio: Bladesingers, Swordsmanship.
MerrikCale
06-27-07, 11:02 AM Tethrin Veralde (The Shining One, the Master of Blades), Demipower of Elysium NG. Portfolio: Bladesingers, Swordsmanship.

right. and the only info on him is 2 dragon articles correct?
Slayergnome
06-27-07, 12:37 PM Loves you guys.......
GothicDan
06-27-07, 10:23 PM Since I do not own that volume, could you tell me why you say that?

It talks solely about core Elves. One read of their culture shows how entirely unlike FR Elves they are.
Lord Karsus
06-28-07, 06:24 PM right. and the only info on him is 2 dragon articles correct?

-Yep.
MerrikCale
06-28-07, 08:14 PM oh well. I don't have either mag
Lord Karsus
06-28-07, 09:45 PM -We both seem to suffer from a lack of substance on both of these sources.
MerrikCale
06-28-07, 09:49 PM -We both seem to suffer from a lack of substance on both of these sources.

I would like to know more myself

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Razz 05-31-07, 06:17 PM	In the issues of Dragon Magazine #236 and #251, details on more deities of the Seldarine were given and said to have their place in Forgotten Realms (also mentioned Snow Elves existing in the far north of the Spine of the World or the High Ice possibly...now I can make good use of them from Frostburn). I'm curious, but are these all official Realms deities or only some of them or none of them now? I think I should also post this on Richard Baker's thread, too: Alathrien Druanna (Demigod of conjurations, rune magic, geometric magic) Araleth Letheranil (Lesser God of Light, Twilight, and Starlight) Darahl Firecloak (Demi/Lesser God of earth and flame phenomena, earth and fire magic, and evocation magic) Kirith Sotheril (Lesser God of Divination and Enchantment Magic) Melira Taralen (Lesser God of half-elven bards, elven minstrels, song writers) Mythrian Sareth (Demigod of protection, Abjuration magic, and mythals) Naralis Analor (Lesser God of Healing, easing of pain, death) Tarsellis Meunniduin (Intermediate God of mountains, rivers, snow elves, wilderness) Rellavar Danuvien (Lesser God of frost sprites [probably uldra and other cold-related fey creatures], protection from elements, ice magic) Sarula Iliene (Lesser God of lakes, streams, nixies, and water magic) Tethrin Veraldé (Demigod of bladesingers, swordsmanship, evocation magic) Thanks for any info you Realms lore fans can provide. I'm trying to update my list of official Realms deities for the folks here on the forums and for my players when they choose their patron deities.
GothicDan 05-31-07, 06:22 PM	Dragon is official. They were presented before the Seldarine of FR were separate from the Seldarine of core. :) I also need to add that I absolutely love a lot of those gods. Almost all of them in fact, and do not dislike any of them.
Faraer 05-31-07, 06:43 PM	Demihuman Deities, published two years after "The Seldarine Revisited", doesn't mention its gods, and Chris Perry's articles don't seem to be treated as canonical in current sources. I'd ask Richard, to be sure. Chris, do you know?
GothicDan 05-31-07, 07:15 PM	Hm... Typically Dragon stuff is treated as canon. It'd be weird if in this case they weren't. It really wouldn't bug me, though. I'd probably include them anyway in my own games (since they're only demigods).
Kelmech_Ra 05-31-07, 07:44 PM	Does anyone know if Fenmarel Mestarine is in Forgotten Realms? He is the patron god of the feral elves, like grugach, scapegoats, and isolation. Edit: I almost forgot to add that he is a lesser power.
Old Sage 05-31-07, 08:18 PM	He is. See Demihuman Deities.
Kelmech_Ra 05-31-07, 08:32 PM	He is. See Demihuman Deities. Thanks for the info.
Razz 05-31-07, 08:59 PM	Hm... Typically Dragon stuff is treated as canon. It'd be weird if in this case they weren't. It really wouldn't bug me, though. I'd probably include them anyway in my own games (since they're only demigods). I agree and I know that Dragon Magazine is canon, too. I'm just wondering if the deities, any, some, or all of them were officially in the Realms Seldarine? Dragon #236 referenced both the Realms and Greyhawk, but never stated for certain if they were members of the Realms Seldarine. Dragon #251, however, I noticed was different. Analyzing Chris Perry's writing, I've noticed he intentionally meant for the 4 new elven deities to be members of the Realms Seldarine just by reading the descriptive text for the deities presented. I am assuming those 4 definitely deserve their place in Realms Seldarine, but I don't think any FR designer has officially said "ok" to it or if they even remember that article.
MerrikCale 06-02-07, 01:03 PM	I also need to add that I absolutely love a lot of those gods. Almost all of them in fact, and do not dislike any of them. we agree. I wouldlike to see a further work on FR gods, particularly those of the other races, elves, dwarves, etc. Now that we have goliaths at least, we can include these too.
Lord Karsus 06-03-07, 12:52 AM	-These deities will be getting write-ups in Elves of Faerûn, and as far as I am concerned, they exist in the Realms.
Razz 06-03-07, 09:50 AM	-These deities will be getting write-ups in Elves of Faerûn, and as far as I am concerned, they exist in the Realms. Elves of Faerun? Is that a new book coming out? I never heard of it...
Alediran 06-03-07, 10:00 AM	Elves of Faerun? Is that a new book coming out? I never heard of it... http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=732165
Lord Karsus 06-03-07, 06:00 PM	Elves of Faerun? Is that a new book coming out? I never heard of it... http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=732165 -Thank you, Alediran. I swear, I'm going to kill the next person who asks that question...:rolleyes:
XHereticX 06-03-07, 06:33 PM	So..when is it expected?
Lord Karsus 06-03-07, 06:55 PM	-I have no clue. I don't have school until August, but I'm working full time. I do what I can, when I can. I'm sure that everyone has similar situations. But, I've said it many times- I'm not going to sacrifice quality for the sake of expediancy.
XHereticX 06-03-07, 07:13 PM	-I have no clue. I don't have school until August, but I'm working full time. I do what I can, when I can. I'm sure that everyone has similar situations. But, I've said it many times- I'm not going to sacrifice quality for the sake of expediancy. Actually, I don't disagree with you there. I'm in no hurry anyway. The longer the wait, the sweeter the reward.
MerrikCale 06-03-07, 11:02 PM	Elves of Faerun? What the heck is that? Is that anything like races of Faerun? I'm so excited, I thought the Grand History was the only sourcebook coming out. Finally. WoTC will put out the definitive elven sourcebook. You must very excited LK.
Lord Karsus 06-03-07, 11:39 PM	Elves of Faerun? What the heck is that? Is that anything like races of Faerun? -Sort of. Only, the focus is on Elves. I'm so excited, I thought the Grand History was the only sourcebook coming out. -Um, it is. Finally. WoTC will put out the definitive elven sourcebook. You must very excited LK. -I am excited, but WotC has nothing to do with anything.
Soltares 06-04-07, 03:29 AM	Alathrien Druanna (Demigod of conjurations, rune magic, geometric magic) Araleth Letheranil (Lesser God of Light, Twilight, and Starlight) Darahl Firecloak (Demi/Lesser God of earth and flame phenomena, earth and fire magic, and evocation magic) Kirith Sotheril (Lesser God of Divination and Enchantment Magic) Melira Taralen (Lesser God of half-elven bards, elven minstrels, song writers) Mythrian Sareth (Demigod of protection, Abjuration magic, and mythals) Naralis Analor (Lesser God of Healing, easing of pain, death) Tarsellis Meunniduin (Intermediate God of mountains, rivers, snow elves, wilderness) Rellavar Danuvien (Lesser God of frost sprites [probably uldra and other cold-related fey creatures], protection from elements, ice magic) Sarula Iliene (Lesser God of lakes, streams, nixies, and water magic) Tethrin Veraldé (Demigod of bladesingers, swordsmanship, evocation magic) I've played a Cleric of Kirith Sotheril myself, and used all four of those gods (Melira Taralen, Naralis Analor and Araleth Letheranil) in my Realms games. Regardless of what's 'official,' it's not like Mythrian Sareth can not be a Realms-god, since no other setting uses Mythals. :) Then again, I don't use Sehanine Moonbow. Big phony, claiming to be Corellon's first wife (which was Araushalnee, in the Realms), claiming to be one who created the elven races from Corellon's shed blood, claiming to be be the elven goddess of magic, claming all sorts of bogus crap. I don't care how official she is. She's evil. [Mermaid-Man] EEEEVVVIIILLL! [/mermaid-man]
Alediran 06-04-07, 09:23 AM	Elves of Faerun? What the heck is that? Is that anything like races of Faerun? I'm so excited, I thought the Grand History was the only sourcebook coming out. Finally. WoTC will put out the definitive elven sourcebook. You must very excited LK. It's fanmade, so was A Grand History of the Realms. Who knows, maybe one day WotC recognizes our effort and makes it a book. P.S: LK, I was thinking yesterday (when my stomachache allowed me) the creation of two new types of Hands of Karsus, the elven hand and the dark elven hand.
Lord Karsus 06-04-07, 10:54 AM	P.S: LK, I was thinking yesterday (when my stomachache allowed me) the creation of two new types of Hands of Karsus, the elven hand and the dark elven hand. -Are you volunteering for one of those two positions? Mmmm?
Alediran 06-04-07, 10:58 AM	-Are you volunteering for one of those two positions? Mmmm? When it comes to quick answers about the netbook I'm always there :P
Lord Karsus 06-04-07, 11:17 AM	-This is a big step, are you sure? You'll need to swear allegiance to me (and KtM, and our lost 1/3), and be ready to be called upon. You'll get a great medical and dental plan, plus good life insurance coverage. Also, paid lunch.
Alediran 06-04-07, 11:21 AM	-This is a big step, are you sure? You'll need to swear allegiance to me (and KtM, and our lost 1/3), and be ready to be called upon. You'll get a great medical and dental plan, plus good life insurance coverage. Also, paid lunch. Tis' I swear by the elven blood of my ancestors. And the life insurance is good, you never know when you need a True Resurrection
Lord Karsus 06-04-07, 03:56 PM	-Excellent. -Rise, Lord Alediran...You are a Hand of Karsus...:emp:
Alediran 06-04-07, 04:00 PM	ELVEN Hand of Karsus (double arrogance :P) - Yes master. I live to serve.
MerrikCale 06-22-07, 09:49 PM	- -I am excited, but WotC has nothing to do with anything. I know. By the way, are these gods presented anywhere else?
Lord Karsus 06-23-07, 12:22 AM	I know. By the way, are these gods presented anywhere else? -Nope. Only in those two magazines, both of which are sold out, according to the Paizo website. :(
MerrikCale 06-23-07, 10:51 AM	there are other elven gods in Races of the Wild are there not?
Razz 06-23-07, 02:14 PM	there are other elven gods in Races of the Wild are there not? There is, but none of them are officially Realms deities. Heck, some of them aren't even official deities in ANY campaign setting because some of elven deities in there are brand new to 3E.
MerrikCale 06-23-07, 02:44 PM	There is, but none of them are officially Realms deities. Heck, some of them aren't even official deities in ANY campaign setting because some of elven deities in there are brand new to 3E. well, if warlocks, favored souls and goliaths are official, can the new Elven dieites be far behind?
Lord Karsus 06-23-07, 05:52 PM	-At this point, who knows?
MerrikCale 06-23-07, 09:29 PM	I suppose the better question is do we like the additional elven gods in Races of the Wild. I don't have the book at this point but I'm mulling it over.
Lord Karsus 06-23-07, 10:26 PM	-I don't think we do. Though I don't have the book, Dan has mentioned that Races of the Wild is, overall, pretty bad, and I trust his judgement.
Razz 06-23-07, 11:41 PM	I didn't think Races of the Wild was bad. It wasn't as awesome as Races of Stone, but it wasn't as bad as, say, Cityscape or Mysteries of the Moonsea was.
Dark Wizard 06-24-07, 12:00 AM	-I don't think we do. Though I don't have the book, Dan has mentioned that Races of the Wild is, overall, pretty bad, and I trust his judgement. I think the deities in Races of the Wild were designed for the core in mind and not FR, that's the main problem keeping them from working with the Realms. Some of them need heavy adaption (others not so much). A while back I threw around the idea of working (a massively modified) Vandria Gilmadrith into the Realms, but I was met with strong disinterest. I still have my notes somewhere. It's one of my weirder tangents.
Todesherr 06-24-07, 02:15 AM	Can anyone post stats and profile information on these gods? I've actually never heard of of them...but then again I am a casual player trapped on the other side of the world...;)
MerrikCale 06-24-07, 08:07 AM	-I don't think we do. Though I don't have the book, Dan has mentioned that Races of the Wild is, overall, pretty bad, and I trust his judgement. As do I for the most part
GothicDan 06-24-07, 04:13 PM	With the presence of Corellon, Sheverash, and (Insert Bladesinger Deity's name here that I always forget), I just see Vandria as being about as redundant as you can get. Especially considering the minority of Lawful Elves, which are primarily Sun Elves, who worship Corellon almost exclusively, and followed as distant seconds by a few other members of the core Seldarine; I don't think Vandria would have enough worship. Races of the Wild is only bad if you try to apply any of it to the Realms. The parts on Elven culture and the like are just completely nonapplicable.
Lord Karsus 06-25-07, 09:20 AM	Races of the Wild is only bad if you try to apply any of it to the Realms. The parts on Elven culture and the like are just completely nonapplicable. -Completely useless, then.
MerrikCale 06-27-07, 12:06 AM	With the presence of Corellon, Sheverash, and (Insert Bladesinger Deity's name here that I always forget), what bladesinger deity is official in the Realms? Races of the Wild is only bad if you try to apply any of it to the Realms. The parts on Elven culture and the like are just completely nonapplicable. Since I do not own that volume, could you tell me why you say that?
Dark Wizard 06-27-07, 12:20 AM	what bladesinger deity is official in the Realms? Tethrin Veralde (The Shining One, the Master of Blades), Demipower of Elysium NG. Portfolio: Bladesingers, Swordsmanship.
MerrikCale 06-27-07, 11:02 AM	Tethrin Veralde (The Shining One, the Master of Blades), Demipower of Elysium NG. Portfolio: Bladesingers, Swordsmanship. right. and the only info on him is 2 dragon articles correct?
Slayergnome 06-27-07, 12:37 PM	Loves you guys.......
GothicDan 06-27-07, 10:23 PM	Since I do not own that volume, could you tell me why you say that? It talks solely about core Elves. One read of their culture shows how entirely unlike FR Elves they are.
Lord Karsus 06-28-07, 06:24 PM	right. and the only info on him is 2 dragon articles correct? -Yep.
MerrikCale 06-28-07, 08:14 PM	oh well. I don't have either mag
Lord Karsus 06-28-07, 09:45 PM	-We both seem to suffer from a lack of substance on both of these sources.
MerrikCale 06-28-07, 09:49 PM	-We both seem to suffer from a lack of substance on both of these sources. I would like to know more myself