bonus spell slots above caster level [Archive] - Wizards Community

bonus spell slots above caster level [Archive] - Wizards Community

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alzoron
03-14-07, 02:53 PM I was thinking about this the other week and couldn't find any answers after searching...

If your ability score for your class grants you a bonus spell slot above what you could normally cast at your level and you were able to aquire a spell known at that level, could you cast it?

Example 1 - 1st level wizard with a 14 intelligence that was able to scribe a 2nd level spell into her spellbook.

Example 2 - 9th level T'ien lung dragonblood sorcerer with a 22 charisma that took the feat draconic legacy and gained control weather (6th level) as a spell known.
bloodtalon
03-14-07, 03:15 PM i am pretty sure you have to wait till you are high enough to cast that level of spell. otherwise it would make 1st level wizards ect... too powerful
alzoron
03-14-07, 03:31 PM I'm sure that's the way it's intended to be, but it never hurts to get input from others. :)

I've also considered other uses for bonus spells slots such as metamagic feats and abilities that require the sacrafice of spell slots.

Anyways, this isn't anything I've considered putting into action, more of a curiosity than anything.
dragonheart
03-14-07, 07:11 PM I assume your talking about the bonus spells that come with higher ability scores. Generally you only get tehm when you reach the level where you get that level spell; soa wizard with an 18 Intellegence wouldget to cast 2 Level 1 spells instead of 1 at first level and so on up through 4th level spells at 7th level. The Bard, Paladin and Ranger are the exceptions - they get the ability bonus when they reach the point where a 0 is listed. That is a ranger with a wisdom of 10 would get his first level 1 spell at level 6 but a ranger with a 12 wisdom would get that first level 1 spell at level 4 where a 0 is first listed. you can't use them for things like metamagic etc untill you get them in the first place as described above.
Tevin Kevlak
03-15-07, 04:48 PM Actually a Ranger with a 10 wisdom wouldn't get any spells what-so-ever. You need to have at least 10 + the spell level in your casting stat to be able to cast spells of that level. Since Rangers do not have 0 level spells you'd need to at least have an 11 wisdom in order to cast a Ranger spell.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
alzoron 03-14-07, 02:53 PM	I was thinking about this the other week and couldn't find any answers after searching... If your ability score for your class grants you a bonus spell slot above what you could normally cast at your level and you were able to aquire a spell known at that level, could you cast it? Example 1 - 1st level wizard with a 14 intelligence that was able to scribe a 2nd level spell into her spellbook. Example 2 - 9th level T'ien lung dragonblood sorcerer with a 22 charisma that took the feat draconic legacy and gained control weather (6th level) as a spell known.
bloodtalon 03-14-07, 03:15 PM	i am pretty sure you have to wait till you are high enough to cast that level of spell. otherwise it would make 1st level wizards ect... too powerful
alzoron 03-14-07, 03:31 PM	I'm sure that's the way it's intended to be, but it never hurts to get input from others. :) I've also considered other uses for bonus spells slots such as metamagic feats and abilities that require the sacrafice of spell slots. Anyways, this isn't anything I've considered putting into action, more of a curiosity than anything.
dragonheart 03-14-07, 07:11 PM	I assume your talking about the bonus spells that come with higher ability scores. Generally you only get tehm when you reach the level where you get that level spell; soa wizard with an 18 Intellegence wouldget to cast 2 Level 1 spells instead of 1 at first level and so on up through 4th level spells at 7th level. The Bard, Paladin and Ranger are the exceptions - they get the ability bonus when they reach the point where a 0 is listed. That is a ranger with a wisdom of 10 would get his first level 1 spell at level 6 but a ranger with a 12 wisdom would get that first level 1 spell at level 4 where a 0 is first listed. you can't use them for things like metamagic etc untill you get them in the first place as described above.
Tevin Kevlak 03-15-07, 04:48 PM	Actually a Ranger with a 10 wisdom wouldn't get any spells what-so-ever. You need to have at least 10 + the spell level in your casting stat to be able to cast spells of that level. Since Rangers do not have 0 level spells you'd need to at least have an 11 wisdom in order to cast a Ranger spell.