Changing Spell Components? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Changing Spell Components? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Neely
06-18-07, 04:15 AM Hiya,

Is it possible for a spellcaster to devellope a spell identical to an excisting spell but with other 'component' requirements?
Or is each spell scribed in the weave with its exact components?

Example of a situtation:
A boy, born mute, is eager to learn the ways of a wizard. Because he's mute it would mean all spells with verbal compenents would be unavailable to him. Pity, because he would really like to know how to teleport to and fro.
Is the boy able to learn the Teleport spell with--for example--a somatic component instead of verbal?

Does it upset balance alot if you would change components?
(I realise it would for Material components with a effective gold value, so I'm more thinking in Verbal-Somatic switch.)

Or would the boy just have to make a new spell for it, lets say "Jimmy's Silent Teleport"?
booze
06-18-07, 06:56 AM why not use the Silent Spell feat?
Neely
06-18-07, 09:26 AM The Silent Spell feat makes a spell one spell level higher. It's designed to give a spell caster the advantage of not needing a verbal component. However he can still decide not to apply the meta magic to his spell if he has no desire for this advantage.

If you're mute it would mean you have no choice but to cast the spell at one level higher, since you want that spell, even if you don't desire its advantage.

Its a delicate difference between the two situation.
But its an option if it would be that there is no other way then to deal with it this way.

However I just realise, if it would be allowed to change spell components, it would render this metamagic feat a bit less meaningful.
Balance issue?
ShadezofDis
06-18-07, 11:54 AM Definitely Silent Spell. Otherwise the character needs to be some kind of magical savant that figured out a more efficient way to silence a spell.

I guess you could go a route that the PC has figured out a way to cast silenced spells at the same level but it just increases the casting time (from 1 standard action to 1 full round, from 1 full round to 2 or more full rounds) but you need something to compensate for the fact that the character is casting differently than everyone else.

At least IMO :)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Neely 06-18-07, 04:15 AM	Hiya, Is it possible for a spellcaster to devellope a spell identical to an excisting spell but with other 'component' requirements? Or is each spell scribed in the weave with its exact components? Example of a situtation: A boy, born mute, is eager to learn the ways of a wizard. Because he's mute it would mean all spells with verbal compenents would be unavailable to him. Pity, because he would really like to know how to teleport to and fro. Is the boy able to learn the Teleport spell with--for example--a somatic component instead of verbal? Does it upset balance alot if you would change components? (I realise it would for Material components with a effective gold value, so I'm more thinking in Verbal-Somatic switch.) Or would the boy just have to make a new spell for it, lets say "Jimmy's Silent Teleport"?
booze 06-18-07, 06:56 AM	why not use the Silent Spell feat?
Neely 06-18-07, 09:26 AM	The Silent Spell feat makes a spell one spell level higher. It's designed to give a spell caster the advantage of not needing a verbal component. However he can still decide not to apply the meta magic to his spell if he has no desire for this advantage. If you're mute it would mean you have no choice but to cast the spell at one level higher, since you want that spell, even if you don't desire its advantage. Its a delicate difference between the two situation. But its an option if it would be that there is no other way then to deal with it this way. However I just realise, if it would be allowed to change spell components, it would render this metamagic feat a bit less meaningful. Balance issue?
ShadezofDis 06-18-07, 11:54 AM	Definitely Silent Spell. Otherwise the character needs to be some kind of magical savant that figured out a more efficient way to silence a spell. I guess you could go a route that the PC has figured out a way to cast silenced spells at the same level but it just increases the casting time (from 1 standard action to 1 full round, from 1 full round to 2 or more full rounds) but you need something to compensate for the fact that the character is casting differently than everyone else. At least IMO :)