Chronology of the "Dead Three"? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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StarkRavenMad

09-08-07, 01:48 PM
I haven't found anything official, but is there a generally accepted timeline for the ascension of Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul?

Additionally, any is there any canonical literature on their lives before godhood?

Thanks.
Krash

09-08-07, 07:31 PM
There will be some more info in GHotR. It's a general FR policy on the part of FR designers and freelancers not to come up with hard and fast dates for events pertaining to the gods unless those events are easily undestandable from a mortal perspective (i.e. the Time of Troubles). Mind you, I broke that cardinal rule myself when I dated the apotheosis of Uthgar.:embarrass

-- George Krashos
GothicDan

09-08-07, 07:38 PM
I think that's a little more acceptable, though, as would be the dates for the apotheosis of Velsharoon and the like. Of course, unless I'm misremembering things, and Uthgar is a much older deity than I think.
Old Sage

09-08-07, 07:49 PM
We can't really provide a "rough" year either. Initial estimates suggest between 267 DR and 700 DR as the time of ascension for Bane, Bhaal and Myrkul.

Though... Lands of Intrigue notes that a young noble of Clan Fyrson, in -88 DR, was charged with worshipping the dark gods Bane and Myrkul. This tends to throw the above estimates out and suggests that Bane and Myrkul ascended earlier than 267 DR and after -339 DR which marks the Fall of Netheril.

Specifically, we can likely assume that the ascension occured sometime between -339 DR and -88 DR.
Old Sage

09-08-07, 07:51 PM
We also know that Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul slew Borem -- one of the Seven Lost Gods -- each seizing a portion of Borem's divine essence for themselves. This was, perhaps, shortly before they entered the Castle of Bone and confronted Jergal.

F&P places the Lake of Boiling Mud's, which may have been the "avatar" of Borem, possible location on Mezeketh Isle -- two miles SW of Saerloon's harbor. It's also said that the Lake may have existed, during pre-Dale Reckoning, somewhere in Jhaamdath -- possibly in the vicinity of what would become Sembia. No specific dates are offered.

Jhaamdath "falls" in -255 DR. And Chondathan, which will eventually become Saerloon, was "properly" established between the 360's and 380's DR. 'Tis likely founded some time before that... given that Chondathan migrations across the Inner Sea to the lands of what will become Sembia, occur around the -200s DR.

Given the -339 DR starting point, and the details about the Lake possibly being located in pre-Dale Reckoning Jhaamdath, that could possibly narrow the period of the Dark Three's ascension to between Netheril's Fall in -339 DR and the Fall of Jhaamdath in -255 DR.

Additionally, Eric offers this little tidbit...

"Implicit in your assumption is that the Lake of Burning Blood is a "real lake". I'd suggest that maybe it's a moveable lake (in other words, the lake is the "avatar" of Borem). Alternatively, it could be the lake is created by opening a blood-spewing portal. When the portal closes/moves, the lake drains away.

--Eric"
Lord Mortanius

09-10-07, 02:10 AM
I think that's a little more acceptable, though, as would be the dates for the apotheosis of Velsharoon and the like. Of course, unless I'm misremembering things, and Uthgar is a much older deity than I think.

Velsharoon ascended at the end of 1368 DR.
Old Sage

09-10-07, 02:26 AM
That particular date was referenced in the entry for 'Velsharoon' from Power & Pantheons.