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Mad Mage 07-10-05, 12:35 AM	Index (by order of appearance): page 1: Torm, Bane, Cyric, Abbathor, Gruumsh (alternate), Dumathoin, Moradin (alternate), Finder Wyvernspur (by HVulpes), Myrkul, Selune (by BelRex), Nobanion, Sune, Shar, Ghaunadaur, Lathander (incomplete), Nobanion (alternate), Horus-Re, Silvanus (incomplete), Chauntea, Kelemvor (incomplete), Tyr, Orcus (incomplete), Umberlee (by Mirtek) page 2: Selvetarm, Kiaransalee, Vhaerun, Clangeddin, Tempus, Ilmater, Maglubiyet, Velsharoon, Ulutiu, Talos, Uthgar (incomplete), Ishtishia, Grumbar, Kossuth, Akadi, Tiamat (alternate, by Gray Richardson), Sharess (incomplete), Ubtao Well, I was thinking about this and wondered: How often do 3.5 Edition players or enthusiasts (like me) contemplate the Planar Allies (as per the cleric spells Summon [Lesser/Greater] Planar Ally) and heralds of deities in the Forgotten Realms. Of those multi-genre racial deities (mostly the patron ones) can be found in both Complete Divine and their races' respective Races of books. However, I'd wonder how much any one else would be interested in see or developing such. Besides, couldn't the likes of Bane, Ilmater, Shar and others deserve such treatment anyways?
Kuje31 07-10-05, 12:39 AM	Well, I was thinking about this and wondered: How often do 3.5 Edition players or enthusiasts (like me) contemplate the Planar Allies (as per the cleric spells Summon [Lesser/Greater] Planar Ally) and heralds of deities in the Forgotten Realms. Of those multi-genre racial deities (mostly the patron ones) can be found in both Complete Divine and their races' respective Races of books. However, I'd wonder how much any one else would be interested in see or developing such. Besides, couldn't the likes of Bane, Ilmater, Shar and others deserve such treatment anyways? I ponder them because the 2e deity trilogy mentions them for each entry. :)
Alac Luin 07-10-05, 05:39 PM	dubble post thing.
Alac Luin 07-10-05, 05:45 PM	Go to the Web enhancement page... http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/we Download the two Faiths and Pantheons Web enhancements. The one titled "Do's and Don'ts" (I can't tell which download it will be, but that title shows on my hard drive) may be what your looking for. Example Abbathor(dwarf), Animals/Plants -werebadgers Monsters- greedy dragons, ghost dragons, rust monsters Gems/Precious Metals- gold, jewels of all kinds Colors - red, tan, crimson Miscellaneous- magical silence and darkness, movement of gems/coins. EDIT: my Word processing program I use to check spelling changed it to "dos and donuts".
Mad Mage 07-10-05, 10:49 PM	Alac: I already know what you're talking about, but that's not what I'm looking for. For instance, I was thinking of this for one deity. Torm sends a Celestial Human Paladin 20 as his herald. His allies include Hound Archons, Leonal Guardinals, and Hound Archon Heroes.
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 02:52 AM	Another one I can think of is this. Bane: Herald - Fiendish Human Fighter 10/Blackguard 10 Allies (Lesser - Greater): Xill, Nessian Warhound (advanced Hell Hound), Pit Fiend
GothicDan 07-11-05, 10:13 AM	I have a gut reaction of "No" against Torm having Leonal Guardinal Heroes. Firstly, because they are NG, and secondly, because they so scream Nobanion that any other deity trying to use them as a Hero should be smacked. ;) Mind you, I know that Nobanion is LG, too, but, well, he is a lion. His lion-ness overrides the LG-ness, I believe, in this case. You could replace it with an appopriately-powered Aasimon.
HVulpes 07-11-05, 10:23 AM	GothicDan You forget that Torm also has a Lion nature. He has appeared as a Lion-head man. In fact, that was the form he used to kill Bane Mk I. Plus gods can have worshippers of different alignments. As long as it's not a stretch (Like a CE worshipper of Torm) or a Cleric (Which does give me some arguements like Finder's Alignments.GRRR!). So Torm most likely has Leonals. Nobanion probably has more and possibly more powerful ones under his belt (As in 3 ED his home plane is the Guardials home plane). Also have we seen Torm and Nobanion in the smae place at once? You don't think they could be... :D
GothicDan 07-11-05, 10:31 AM	You forget that Torm also has a Lion nature. He has appeared as a Lion-head man. In fact, that was the form he used to kill Bane Mk I. Plus gods can have worshippers of different alignments. As long as it's not a stretch (Like a CE worshipper of Torm) or a Cleric (Which does give me some arguements like Finder's Alignments.GRRR!). So Torm most likely has Leonals. Nobanion probably has more and possibly more powerful ones under his belt (As in 3 ED his home plane is the Guardials home plane). Also have we seen Torm and Nobanion in the smae place at once? You don't think they could be... I don't think so. Nobanion has been around about as long as Torm, anyway, since he was roughly based in Aslan, according to Ed Greenwood. :) And I didn't forget any of the above information. I simply said that it was my gut reaction to say no. My method of world-building and the like is very thematic; I don't like mixing themes too much because I feel it detracts from the themes of other topics. In my FR game I would play down Torm's lion-ness, for example, to make Nobanion more relevant as the primary Lion Deity; thus, he would have the Guardinals, and I would have Torm stick to the Archons and Aasimon. But it was just my opinion, is all.
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 11:35 AM	Cyric: Herald - Fiendish Human Rogue 10/Illusionist 10 Allies - Howler, Glabrezu, Nightwing Abbathor: Herald - Fiendish Dwarf Rogue 20 Allies - Shadow Mastiff, Glabrezu, Pit Fiend
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 12:18 PM	Gruumsh (Alternate): Herald - Fiendish Orc Barbarian 20 Allies: Howler, Hezrou, Marilith Dumathoin: Herald - Elder Earth Elemental Allies: Minor Xorn, Hammer Archon, Huge Earth Elemental Moradin (Alternate): As Complete Divine or RoS except as follows Allies - Substitute Hammer Archon for Trumpet Archons
HVulpes 07-11-05, 12:27 PM	I don't think so. Nobanion has been around about as long as Torm, anyway, since he was roughly based in Aslan, according to Ed Greenwood. :) And I didn't forget any of the above information. I simply said that it was my gut reaction to say no. My method of world-building and the like is very thematic; I don't like mixing themes too much because I feel it detracts from the themes of other topics. In my FR game I would play down Torm's lion-ness, for example, to make Nobanion more relevant as the primary Lion Deity; thus, he would have the Guardinals, and I would have Torm stick to the Archons and Aasimon. But it was just my opinion, is all. Still it might be interesting to note the Lion link. We also know little of Torm's mortal life. Perhaps there was some kind of unknown link between the two. Perhaps Blood. Perhaps some worship (Tyr might be Torm's Patron as a Mortal, but Torm might have also worshipped the Lion-king and gained some boons from him.). This might also lead to adventures for the Worshippers of Torm, who seek Torm's mortal secrets. Perhaps even finding out the boon gain and perhaps recieving the some boon through a Feat or a PrClass. I was just pointing out a possiblity. Everybody has something they would change about the Realms. You would use the 2 Ed rules of High Magic. I would use the 2 Ed alignments for Worshippers of Finder (CE worshippers of Finder do not make sense!!!!!! :mad:.). that's why we have homebrews... and forums to comment on the world. :)
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 01:17 PM	Forgive me if I sound rude, but can this discussion be saved for another thread, guys?
HVulpes 07-11-05, 01:22 PM	Sorry. Point. This is just off the top of my head. Finder Wyvernpur Herald: Lillard Planar Allies: Eldrine (Especially Fiire) Please forgive my poor spelling.
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 01:48 PM	Sorry. Point. This is just off the top of my head. Finder Wyvernpur Herald: Lillard Planar Allies: Eldrine (Especially Fiire) Please forgive my poor spelling. A Lillend as a herald, eh? Might work, if not a Celestial Human (or Saurial) Bard 20 or some-such. For Planar Allies, I'd have (Eladrin? One from the BoED?**) as well. A Bralani Eladrin or a Nymph could be his lesser PA. Lillends could also work as an intermediate PA. For Greater PA, I'd say a Planetar. Note: ** = Don't have this.
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 02:10 PM	Now for a dead deity Myrkul: Herald - Fiendish Human Lich Necromancer 20 Allies - Shadow, Bone Devil, Nalfeshnee
BelRex 07-11-05, 05:22 PM	Selune Herald: the Shards(blue female planetars with white hair) Allies: Perhaps Moon Dogs(BoED), Lillends
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 05:41 PM	The Shards... what text are they from? Nobanion Herald: Celestial Wemic Paladin 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Leonal Guardinal, Planetar
BelRex 07-11-05, 05:50 PM	Faith's and Pantheons, p55. Some of them are clerics raised to Shard status during a special ceremony called the Conjuring of the Second Moon, every 4 years.
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 06:32 PM	Faith's and Pantheons, p55. Some of them are clerics raised to Shard status during a special ceremony called the Conjuring of the Second Moon, every 4 years. Ah yes, found it. Sune Herald: Fey-touched (FF) Female Human Sorceror 20 Allies: Nymph, Lillend, Planetar
Zandilar 07-11-05, 07:47 PM	Heya, Good job linking Lillends to everyone except Selūne! I was under the impression that Lillends were pretty much unique to the Gates of the Moon and the celestial stairway. I don't have my books with me right now, but you would do well to check this. I don't think Finder OR Sune would have Lillends, but I think Selūne would.
HVulpes 07-11-05, 08:05 PM	The Lillend Link is the fact they are attractive artist. Finder is an Artist and Sune is sexy with an art link. Selune likely has some as well, but it has to be added with a little work.
Zandilar 07-11-05, 08:12 PM	Heya, The Lillend Link is the fact they are attractive artist. Finder is an Artist and Sune is sexy with an art link. Selune likely has some as well, but it has to be added with a little work. Err.. Selūne lives at the Gates of the Moon. How could she not have them? Sune lives in Brightwater, and I have no clue where Finder lives. (Don't have my books with me.) I think any planar allies they have would depend on the planar beings that live in or near their planes.
HVulpes 07-11-05, 09:03 PM	Finder lives at the Gates. Also it might vary from user to user. Some might like planes. Others like Themes such as Artists or Warriors... It takes all types.
Kuje31 07-11-05, 09:09 PM	I have to go with Zandilar here. Selune has the Lilands because they are her protectors and the protectors of her Infinite Staircase. This held true even back in 2e.
Mad Mage 07-11-05, 09:11 PM	*throws up arms in surrender* Hey, folks, I wasn't the one who wrote those Selune stats there, okay? I'll make my own in due time, okay? :embarrass
Mad Mage 07-14-05, 12:56 AM	Shar Herald: Nightwalker Allies: Shadow Mastiff, Greater Shadow, Nightwing
Mad Mage 08-01-05, 10:25 PM	Ghaunadaur Herald: Elder Black Pudding Allies: Ochre Jelly, Akalith Demon (FF), Marilith Demon Lathander Herald: Solar Lantern Archon, Couatl, Nobanion Herald: Celestial Lion w/ 20 HD Allies: Hound Archon, Leonal Guardinal, Planetar Horus-Re Herald: Radiant Dragon (Draconomicon) Allies: Lantern Archon, Avoral Guardinal, Hound Archon Hero
Mad Mage 08-22-05, 08:14 PM	Silvanus Herald: Treant w/ 20 HD Allies: Dryad, Shambling Mound, Huge Earth Elemental Chauntea herald: Spirit of the Land (MM2) Allies: Dryad, Treant, Huge Earth Elemental Kelemvor Herald: Human Fighter 10/Cleric 10 Allies: Medium Elemental (any), Astral Deva, Marut
Mirtek 08-23-05, 07:54 AM	Cyric: Herald - Fiendish Human Rogue 10/Illusionist 10 Allies - Howler, Glabrezu, NightwingCyric: Herald - fat human male Rogue 4 :D Allies - Nightwing, Glabrezu, Shadowdemon Umberlee: Herald - Kraken/Wiz 20 Allies (Lesser - Greater): fiendish sharks, fiendish dragon turtles, krakens
Mad Mage 08-29-05, 06:43 PM	Selvetarm Herald: Male Drider (or Fiendish Male Drow) Fighter 20 Allies: Phase Spider, Hezrou, Belibith Kiaransalee Herald: Drow Banshee Allies: Shadow, Babau, Nalfeshnee Vhaerun Herald: Fiendish Male Drow Rogue 20 Allies: Shadow Mastiff, Greater Shadow, Glabrezu Clangeddin Silverbeard Herald: Celestial Dwarf Fighter 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Trumpet Archon, Planetar
Mad Mage 10-16-05, 12:04 AM	At this time I'm taking requests for deities that haven't been written into this thread yet. Give me them and I'll see what I can create. Note that I'm a busy guy, but I'll get to your requests ASAP. Here's some more. Tempus Herald: Celestial Human Fighter 20 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Blue Slaad, Death Slaad Ilmater Herald: Celestial Human Monk 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Astral Deva, Hound Archon Hero Maglubiyet Herald: Fiendish Goblin Fighter 10/Rogue 10 Allies: Barghest, Barbed Devil, Marilith Demon
Slime Lord 10-20-05, 09:10 AM	I'm only posting so I can be subscribed, and because you never know what Heralds and stuff I might want for my Triangle of Three campaign ;)
Mad Mage 10-20-05, 11:29 AM	I'm only posting so I can be subscribed, and because you never know what Heralds and stuff I might want for my Triangle of Three campaign ;) Well, I did make entries for Lathander and Chauntea on the previous page, and somebody else did Selune, so I'd say you're all set there. ;) Anything else you require?
Slime Lord 10-20-05, 01:17 PM	Well, I did make entries for Lathander and Chauntea on the previous page, and somebody else did Selune, so I'd say you're all set there. ;) Anything else you require? No no, not at the moment ;)
Valgard 10-21-05, 05:33 AM	Tempus Herald: Celestial Human Fighter 20 Allies: Howler, Blue Slaad, Death Slaad I don't see why Tempus' herald has the celestial template, even when the planar allies include evil monsters (howlers and death slaadi). I propose his herald with the anarchic template (from Planar Handbook) rather than the celestial template. Tyr Herald: Trumpet Archon w/ 20 HD Allies: (Lesser PA unknown), Trumpet Archon, Hound Archon Hero Orcus Herald: Balor Allies: (Lesser PA unknown), Bodak, Nalfeshnee I'd propose the Artaaglith (from Ghostwalk) as Orcus' lesser planar ally. As for Tyr's one, the only candidate should be the so used hound archon.
Slime Lord 10-21-05, 08:40 AM	You know, Tempus should have three allies from each Alignment to maybe represent his neutrality, instead of having two evilaligned allies?
Mad Mage 10-21-05, 02:42 PM	You know, Tempus should have three allies from each Alignment to maybe represent his neutrality, instead of having two evilaligned allies? 1) I know, but I couldn't think of (at least at the time) of non-evil chaotic-aligned creatures that could work. I mean, they have to be 6 HD or less for the Lesser PA, 12 or less for middle, and 16 or less for the greater, right? 2) Also, allow me to tell you which books I primarily use: - Monster Manual - Monster Manual II - Fiend Folio If anyone needs to know which other sourcebooks (Core D&D & FR) I have, please ask. Unfortunately, I don't tend to use creatures or templates that I do not have legal access to, mostly on a principle such as "Do not do magic you do not understand." Ghostwalk and MotP, unfortunately, are such examples. :embarrass Please, bear with me folks.
sillaric_culdanin 10-21-05, 03:00 PM	Maybe I missed it, but could you do Velsharoon?
Mad Mage 10-21-05, 07:01 PM	Maybe I missed it, but could you do Velsharoon? The Vaunted, eh? *whistles softly as he checks the thread* Nope not here yet. Velsharoon Herald: Human Lich Necromancer 20 Allies: Wight, Bodak, Dread Wraith And here's another. Ulutiu Herald: Human Ranger 20 Allies: Medium Water Elemental, Immoth (MM2), Ice Wierd (Frostburn)
sillaric_culdanin 10-23-05, 02:35 AM	Cool thanks! Do you have the whole list in a text file you could email to me?
Mad Mage 10-23-05, 10:53 PM	Cool thanks! Do you have the whole list in a text file you could email to me? No, unfortunately. I'm just typing them as I go along. What you see in this thread is all I've made. :embarrass
Mad Mage 10-25-05, 12:10 AM	Talos Herald: Elder Storm Elemental (MM3) Allies: Medium Fire Elemental, Large Storm Elemental (MM3), Living Holocaust (FF)
Mad Mage 11-03-05, 04:22 PM	Uthgar Herald: Dependent upon totem - Black Lion: Celestial Dire Lion w/ 20 HD Black Raven: Fiendish Giant Raven (Frostburn) w/ 20 Blue Bear: Fiendish Dire Bear w/ 20 HD Elk: Dire Elk w/ 20 HD Gray Wolf: Dire Wolf w/ 20 HD Great Worm: Adult Copper Dragon Griffon: Griffon w/ 20 HD Red Tiger: Dire Tiger w/ 20 HD Sky Pony: Pegasus w/ 20 HD Thunderbeast: Brontosaurus w/ 20 HD Tree Ghost: Treant w/ 20 HD Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Medium Elemental, Snow Wierd (Frostburn) Edit: Just changed Tempus' Lesser Planar Ally. Edit (8/30/06): This guy's finally finished.
BelRex 11-03-05, 07:09 PM	Uthgar Herald: Dependent upon totem - Black Lion: Celestial Lion w/ 20 HD Black Raven: Fiendish Giant Raven (Frostburn) w/ 20 Blue Bear: Fiendish Dire Bear w/ 20 HD Elk: Dire Elk w/ 20 HD Red Tiger: Dire Tiger w/ 20 HD Thunderbeast: Brachiosaurus w/ 20 HD Tree Ghost: Treant w/ 20 HD I think using this template would be good for any Heralds of Uthgar. Animal Lord (http://www.enworld.org/cc/converted/template/animal_lord.htm)
Skyrocket 11-04-05, 12:32 PM	No love for Istishia? :weep:
Mad Mage 11-04-05, 01:28 PM	No love for Istishia? :weep: Not too much ( :embarrass ), but I was thinking about him and the other elemental deities last night. Istishia Herald: Elder Water Elemental Allies: Medium Water Elemental, Large Water Elemental, Huge Water Elemental Grumbar Herald: Elder Earth Elemental Allies: Medium Earth Elemental, Large Earth Elemental, Huge Earth Elemental Kossuth Herald: Elder Fire Elemental Allies: Medium Fire Elemental, Large Fire Elemental, Huge Fire Elemental Akadi Herald: Elder Air Elemental Allies: Medium Air Elemental, Large Air Elemental, Huge Air Elemental
Slime Lord 11-04-05, 02:55 PM	haha, that was so simple Mad! LOL. But hey, it helps :)
Gray Richardson 12-02-05, 02:14 AM	Tiamat Herald: Fiendish Dragon Allies: Abishai
Mad Mage 12-05-05, 08:10 PM	Note: All the totem heralds for Uthgar are finished. Still have to do his allies.
LucyWanabe 12-06-05, 02:48 PM	What do you suggest for Sharess? I don't have the F&P with me or I'd do it myself... However, for Ubtao, I'd suggest some kind of Celestial Dinosaurs... :D (I have much Ubtao love, mostly because I had a monk of Ubtao).
Mad Mage 12-06-05, 11:00 PM	Sharess... eh? Hope you don't mind another work in progress. Sharess Herald: Celestial Cat w/ 20 HD Allies: Satyr, Firre Eladrin, Astral Deva Ubtao Herald: Celestial Tyrannosaurus w/ 20 HD Allies: Medium Earth Elemental, Treant, Triceratops
LucyWanabe 12-07-05, 11:36 AM	Thanks! What you've done looks good, especially Ubtao--you've got this Dinosaur God fan pleased. :cool:
Borris 12-07-05, 11:42 PM	Would it be possible to make a list of all the deities covered in the first post, as well as what page they're on, just like we did for the Post Your Chosen Templates thread? That way, it'd be easy to see if a given god has been covered as well who still has to be done, so I could know who to work on (assuming you don't mind complete strangers contributing to your works).
Mad Mage 12-08-05, 12:10 AM	Would it be possible to make a list of all the deities covered in the first post, as well as what page they're on, just like we did for the Post Your Chosen Templates thread? That way, it'd be easy to see if a given god has been covered as well who still has to be done, so I could know who to work on (assuming you don't mind complete strangers contributing to your works). 1) Yes, I could make a list. I have with my BG2 NPC thread, so it's possible. Mind you, I am a very busy guy as of late (college, work on weekends, chores), so it may take a little while to get to that. 2) Alright, but honestly I just hope my contributions (past, present, and future) don't lose (much of) any regard. :shifty:
Mad Mage 12-09-05, 10:10 AM	Ok, just added a quick index on the beginning post, folks. Enjoy!
Cli' San Aquanova 12-09-05, 06:46 PM	What does anyone think of the Gloom from the Epic Level Handbook? They're spectrous assassins. At first one would think Cyric, but seeing as Cyric is patron of murderers and not assassins, and Mask is Lord of Shadows and just as many assassins worship Mask as they do Cyric, the Master of All Thieves would be the most befitting for Maskarran allies and minions. Anyone else agree? :) -C'SA :u:Bring Back Merfolk!!!:u:
Mad Mage 12-09-05, 11:13 PM	What does anyone think of the Gloom from the Epic Level Handbook? They're spectrous assassins. At first one would think Cyric, but seeing as Cyric is patron of murderers and not assassins, and Mask is Lord of Shadows and just as many assassins worship Mask as they do Cyric, the Master of All Thieves would be the most befitting for Maskarran allies and minions. Anyone else agree? :) I might. I'll have to re-install Adobe Acrobat Reader & re-download the SRD on that first. Gotta check the HD on those for application as an Planar Ally. Unless the 3.5 entry on the PA summoning spells is wrong (ie: errata), PAs should be 6 or less HD (lesser), 12 or less (intermediate), and 16 or less (greater).
Cli' San Aquanova 12-11-05, 01:48 PM	What does anyone think of the Gloom from the Epic Level Handbook? They're spectrous assassins. At first one would think Cyric, but seeing as Cyric is patron of murderers and not assassins, and Mask is Lord of Shadows and just as many assassins worship Mask as they do Cyric, the Master of All Thieves would be the most befitting for Maskarran allies and minions. Anyone else agree? :) Hmm, I'm sorry; that should have read: "The Master of All Thieves would be the most befitting for Glooms as allies and minions." Albeit, very rare and powerful minions, but I see them as worthy Maskarran nonetheless. :) -C'SA :u:Bring Back Merfolk!!!:u:
KnightErrantJR 12-25-05, 02:19 AM	One of the few god's portfolios that Cyric still has is Bhaal's, which includes assasins as well as murder. Assasination is just murder for hire, after all.
Nynshari 12-28-05, 01:18 PM	Just posting so I can subscribe to this thread. Great job, y'all ......
Freakboy 12-28-05, 09:38 PM	One place you might want to look for inspiration is the PGtF in the section with descriptions on the planes, it has lists of inhabitants of each plane. For example, in the Demonweb Pits entry on page 149 it says that Lolth is served primarily by Yochlol, Glabrezu, Succubi, Mariliths, Bebiliths, Retrievers, Myrlochar, Abyssal Ghouls, and Blood Fiends. It also speaks briefly about other deity's with homes in the Demonweb pits. This isn't an all inclusive list I am sure, but would serve as a good basis of reference for inspiration when considering which Planar Allys to assign to each deity. In that vein here is one for me. Lolth Herald Half-Fiend Female Drow Cleric 10/Arachne 10 Planar Allies: (lesser) Yochlol, (planar ally) Bebilith, (greater) Marilith One additional point is that that Greater Planar Ally can summon a creature of up to 18 HD, not 16 HD. The progression goes 6,12,18. Otherwise, great thread and ideas. Keep them coming.
Mad Mage 12-28-05, 10:37 PM	One place you might want to look for inspiration is the PGtF in the section with descriptions on the planes, it has lists of inhabitants of each plane. For example, in the Demonweb Pits entry on page 149 it says that Lolth is served primarily by Yochlol, Glabrezu, Succubi, Mariliths, Bebiliths, Retrievers, Myrlochar, Abyssal Ghouls, and Blood Fiends. It also speaks briefly about other deity's with homes in the Demonweb pits. This isn't an all inclusive list I am sure, but would serve as a good basis of reference for inspiration when considering which Planar Allys to assign to each deity. In that vein here is one for me. Lolth Herald Half-Fiend Female Drow Cleric 10/Arachne 10 Planar Allies: (lesser) Yochlol, (planar ally) Bebilith, (greater) Marilith One additional point is that that Greater Planar Ally can summon a creature of up to 18 HD, not 16 HD. The progression goes 6,12,18. Otherwise, great thread and ideas. Keep them coming. Yes, I do look towards PGtF for a number of hints for deities and their entries in this thread, alongside Faiths & Pantheons. Trust me, I do try to do my homework for this. I'm just very busy as of lately. ;)
Mad Mage 12-29-05, 02:13 AM	Osiris Herald: Celestial Mummy Lord Allies: Hound Archon, Crypt Warden (BoED), Marut
Slime Lord 12-29-05, 11:56 AM	Osiris Herald: Celestial Mummy Lord Allies: Hound Archon, Crypt Warden (BoED), Marut Ohh! I know, do Odin! *Shimmies*
Mad Mage 12-29-05, 07:14 PM	Ohh! I know, do Odin! *Shimmies* Is he a Realms deity?
Mad Mage 01-09-06, 06:02 PM	Gargauth Herald: Great Wyrm Blue Dragon Allies: Shadow, Devourer, Dread Wraith Valkur Herald: Celestial Human Fighter 10/Rogue 10 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Adult Tojanida, Planetar The Red Knight Herald: Human Fighter 20 Allies: Formian Warrior, Formian Myrmarch, Planetar Eldath Herald: Celestial Druid 20 Allies: Fossergrim (Fiend Folio), Large Water Elemental, Water Wierd (MM2)
Mad Mage 01-13-06, 10:07 PM	Lliira Herald: Bacchae (FF) w/ 20 HD Allies: Satyr, Lillend, Juvenile Copper Dragon
SeveredMind 02-17-06, 11:40 PM	At this time I'm taking requests for deities that haven't been written into this thread yet. Give me them and I'll see what I can create. Note that I'm a busy guy, but I'll get to your requests ASAP. Here's some more. Tempus Herald: Celestial Human Fighter 20 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Blue Slaad, Death Slaad Ilmater Herald: Celestial Human Monk 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Astral Deva, Hound Archon Hero Maglubiyet Herald: Fiendish Goblin Fighter 10/Rogue 10 Allies: Barghest, Barbed Devil, Marilith Demon Slaads for Tempus? Are you sure about that?
Mad Mage 02-20-06, 10:49 AM	Slaads for Tempus? Are you sure about that? To some degree, yes.
Aithe 02-21-06, 09:36 PM	Has Mystra been done? My apologies if I've missed it. :(
Mad Mage 02-21-06, 11:26 PM	Has Mystra been done? My apologies if I've missed it. :( No, she hasn't actually. What I have said before, though, is that I am making these right-on-the-spot, so this is probably the time to do her now. :embarrass Mystra Herald: Celestial Human Wizard (or Sorcerer) 20 Allies: Medium Elemental (any), Astral Deva, Kolyarut Inevitable Azuth Herald: Human Wizard 20 Allies: Lantern Archon, Maelephant (FF), Kolyarut Inevitable Savras Herald: Human Diviner 20 Allies: Medium Elemental (any),Formian Observer (FF), Kolyarut Inevitable
Gray Richardson 02-22-06, 12:25 AM	Hey Mad Mage, Your thread has proved very useful to me of late. In my campaign I have a couple of clerics who just recently started using the spell planar ally, and it was really handy to reference your list when they asked what kind of celestial showed up. It was also convenient for use when bad guy clerics enlisted a planar ally against the party. A very handy tool indeed! Way to go Mage!
Mad Mage 02-22-06, 02:05 AM	Hey Mad Mage, Your thread has proved very useful to me of late. In my campaign I have a couple of clerics who just recently started using the spell planar ally, and it was really handy to reference your list when they asked what kind of celestial showed up. It was also convenient for use when bad guy clerics enlisted a planar ally against the party. A very handy tool indeed! Way to go Mage! Sweet! :w00t:
Slime Lord 02-22-06, 07:20 AM	WOO! Go Mad Mage! :p
Aithe 02-22-06, 07:14 PM	You Rock! :mage:
VonRaventheDaring 02-23-06, 02:39 PM	How about Auppenser? I was thinking of the unbodied, and something in monster manuel III, the visilight i believe . Also how about Oghma, mask and selune.
LucyWanabe 03-19-06, 09:30 AM	:bump: I was thinking...would a Tempest Elemental be too much for Talos? Good work on the gods that you added after my post! They look excellent. :D
Mad Mage 03-19-06, 11:24 PM	How about Auppenser? I was thinking of the unbodied, and something in monster manuel III, the visilight i believe . Also how about Oghma, mask and selune. I've been thinking about all of those guys. Somebody tried to do (and IIRC, did) Selune on pg 1. Auppenser is going to be a toughy, but I'll work on him. Let's see... Oghma Herald: Human Bard 10/Loremaster 10 Allies: Lantern Archon, Lillend, Huge Elemental (any) Mask Herald: Human Shade (RoF) Rogue 20 Allies: Ethereal Filcher, Babau Demon, Nightwing
Mad Mage 03-20-06, 03:29 PM	Auppenser Herald: Human Psion 20 Allies: Visilight (MM3), Couatl, Huge Elemental (any)
Mad Mage 03-25-06, 02:02 AM	Ilneval Herald: Fiendish Orc Fighter 20 Allies: Bearded Devil, Hezrou Demon, Nycaloth (MM3) Baghtru Herald: Fiendish Orc Barbarian 20 Allies: Flamebrother Salamander, Blue Slaad, Marilith Demon Shargraas Herald: Fiendish Orc Rogue 10/Assassin 10 Allies: Shadow, Babau Demon, Death Slaad Yurtrus Herald: Fiendish Orc Monk 20 Allies: Achaierai, Marraenoloth (MM2), Nalfeshnee Demon Luthic Herald: Fiendish Female Orc Cleric 20 Allies: Succubus, Erineyes, Huge Earth Elemental And here's a bit of a freebie! Garagos Herald: Ragewind (MM2) Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Vrock, Noble Salamander
Mad Mage 04-08-06, 12:18 AM	Diirinka Herald: Derro Lich Sorcerer 20 Allies: Howler, Babau Demon, Noble Salamander
Mad Mage 04-20-06, 01:48 PM	Due to college, this, the Baldur's Gate NPC thread, and all other projects of mine are currently on hiatus.
Kamekazou 07-21-06, 10:07 PM	No one's done the big G-O-D yet?! Doubleyooteef! Hoar (Biznitches) Herald: Celestial Human Fighter 10/Rogue 10 Allies: Kolyarut, Marut, Zelekhut
Mad Mage 07-22-06, 10:37 PM	No one's done the big G-O-D yet?! Doubleyooteef! Hoar (Biznitches) Herald: Celestial Human Fighter 10/Rogue 10 Allies: Kolyarut, Marut, Zelekhut Sorry pal, but I'm just rather tired of doind stuff like this. I just need time to myself and all, okay?
Mad Mage 08-30-06, 05:04 PM	Well, just to keep this thread from completely slipping into obscurity before I got back to college again, here's a new entry. Malar Herald: Fiendish Human Werewolf Lord Ranger 14 Allies: Shadow Mastiff, Chaos Beast, Belibith Hoar Herald: Concordant Killer (MM4) Allies: Medium Storm Elemental, Zelekhut, Kolmar Tyr (Edit) Herald: Throne Archon (BoED) w/ 20 HD Allies: Justice Archon (MM4), Trumpet Archon, Hound Archon Hero Dugmaren Brightmantle Herald: Celestial Dwarf Bard 20 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Ursinal Guardinal (BoED), Astral Deva Sharindalar Herald: Celestial Female Dwarf Bard 10/Cleric 10 Allies: Nymph, Firre Eladrin (BoED), Astral Deva Berronar Truesilver Herald: Celestial Female Dwarf Cleric 10/Dwarven Defender 10 Allies: Hound Archon, Hammer Archon (RoS), Astral Deva Hruggek Herald: Fiendish Bugbear Rogue 10/Fighter 10 Allies: Yeth Hound, Babau, Nycaloth (MM3) Notes: Sharess & Uthgar are finished
Mad Mage 10-16-06, 11:11 PM	Aerdrie Faenya Herald: Celestial Avariel (RoF) Cleric 20 Allies: Leskylor (BoED), Avoral Guardinal, Astral Deva Beshaba Herald: Fiendish Female Human Cleric 10/Wizard 10 Allies: Joystealer (MM4), Corruptor of Fate Assassin (MM4), Nightwing Deep Duerra Herald: Fiendish Female Duergar Psychic Warrior 20 Allies: Bearded Devil, Formian Myrmarch, Xerfilstyx Devil (FF) Sekolah Herald: Fiendish Dire Shark w/ 20 HD Allies: Medium Water Elemental, Adult Tojanida, Huge Water Elemental Umberlee Herald: Fiendish Kraken w/ 20 HD Allies: Medium Water Elemental, Adult Tojanida , Myrmyxicus Demon (FF) Shevarash Herald: Elf Ranger 20 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Asura (BoED), Death Slaad
Wire 10-17-06, 01:08 AM	A *FANTASTIC* thread, Mad Mage. Kudos to your precise applications, creativity, and breadth of resources. :tiphat:
Mad Mage 10-18-06, 12:43 AM	A *FANTASTIC* thread, Mad Mage. Kudos to your precise applications, creativity, and breadth of resources. :tiphat: Well, thank you. :cool: Here's some more. Siamorphe Herald: Human Aristocrat 10/Cleric 10 Allies: Hound Archon, Astral Deva, Throne Archon (BoED) Amaunator Herald: Human Wizard 10/Cleric 10 Allies: Hound Archon, Lumi Crusader (MM3), Kolyarut Gilgeam Herald: Fiendish Human Fighter 20 Allies: Achaierai, Efreet, Justicator (MM3) Anhur Herald: Celestial Human Fighter 20 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Astral Deva, Planetar
Mad Mage 11-01-06, 12:42 AM	Baervan Wildwanderer Herald: Celestial Forest Gnome Ranger 10/Illusionist 10 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Astral Deva, Huge Earth Elemental Baravar Cloakshadow Herald: Celestial Gnome Rogue 10/Illusionist 10 Allies: Hound Archon, Shiradri Eladin (BoED), Planetar Callurdan Smoothhands (alternate) Herald: Svirfneblin Illusionist 10/Earth Elemental Savant (Complete Arcane) 10 Allies: Medium Earth Elemental, Large Earth Elemental, Huge Earth Elemental Flandal Steelskin Herald: Celestial Gnome Fighter 10/Cleric 10 Allies: Medium Fire Elemental, Astral Deva, Huge Fire Elemental Gaerdal Ironhand Herald: Celestial Gnome Fighter 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Astral Deva, Planetar Segojan Earthcaller Herald: Celestial Gnome Druid 20 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Hammer Archon (RoS), Huge Earth Elemental Urdlen Herald: Fiendish Dire Badger w/ 20 HD Allies: Howler, Babau Demon, Death Slaad Bahamut Herald: Celestial Great Wyrm Gold Dragon Allies: Hound Archon, Trumpet Archon, Throne Archon (BoED)
Mad Mage 12-05-06, 11:19 PM	Geb Herald: Elder Earth Elemental Allies: Medium Earth Elemental, Large Earth Elemental, Huge Earth Elemental Isis Herald: Celestial Human Druid 10/Wizard 10 Allies: Hound Archon, Astral Deva, Planetar Nepthys Herald: Celestial Raven w/ 20 HD Allies: Hollyphant (BoED), Astral Deva, Iron Golem* Sebek Herald: Fiendish Crocodile w/ 20 HD Allies: Medium Water Elemental, Adult Tojanida, Myrmyxicus Demon (FF) Set Herald: Fiendish Cobra (treat as Huge Viper in Monster Manual) w/ 20 HD Allies: Hellhound, Hellcat, Cauchemar Thoth Herald: Mulhorandi Human Wizard 20 Allies: Janni, Ferrumach Rilmani (FF), Stone Golem* Note: * = Deity in question is mentioned in Powers & Pantheons to utilize golems as divine messengers and servants.
ThornTheWanderer 12-09-06, 12:31 AM	you sir, are an inspired genius!!! Any chances of seeing Mielikki and/or Solonor Thelandira?
Mad Mage 12-10-06, 12:37 AM	you sir, are an inspired genius!!! :w00t: Any chances of seeing Mielikki and/or Solonor Thelandira? Well, I was thinking of Mielikki the other day, so here ya go. :) Mielikki Herald: Celestial Charger w/ 12 Cleric levels Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Astral Deva, Oaken Defender (MM4) Solonor Thelandria Herald: Celestial Wood Elf Ranger 20 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Faerie Dragon (Draconomicon), Oaken Defender (MM4) And here's some giant deities. Memnor Herald: Eldritch Giant (MM3) Allies: Succubus, Cerebilith Demon (XPH), Pit Fiend Skoreus Stonebones Herald: Earth Element (MotP) Stone Giant Druid 4 Allies: Medium Earth Elemental, Large Earth Elemental, Huge Earth Elemental Stronmaus Herald: Celestial Cloud Giant Bard 3 Allies: Bralani Eladrin, Firre Eladrin (BoED), Huge Storm Elemental (MM3) Surtr Herald: Fiendish Fire Giant Fighter 5 Allies: Medium Fire Elemental, Average Salamander, Pit Fiend Thrym Herald: Fiendish Frost Giant Barbarian 6 Allies: Cannoloth (MM3), Hezrou Demon, Snow Wierd (Frostburn) Vaprak Herald: Fiendish Half-Troll (FF) Ogre Barbarian 16 Allies: Howler, Hezrou Demon, Ultraloth (MM3)
Mad Mage 12-25-06, 01:17 AM	Well, I think this one goes without question Auril Herald: Human Wendigo (FF) Wizard 10/Frost Mage (Frostburn) 10 Allies: Medium Air Elemental, Babau Demon, Snow Wierd (Frostburn) Tymora Herald: Celestial Human Rogue 20 Allies: Equinal Guardinal (BoED), Faerie Dragon (Draconomicon), Planetar Waukeen Herald: Human Expert 20 Allies: Medium Elemental, Ferrumach Rilmani (FF), Huge Elemental
Burningspear 12-26-06, 06:22 PM	One of the few god's portfolios that Cyric still has is Bhaal's, which includes assasins as well as murder. Assasination is just murder for hire, after all. Euhm, nope, i have to dissagree here, Murder can be done by anyone, and being the Patron of Assasins is a complete different story, Assasins are hired killers, yes, but this is a seperate class just like Savras is for Diviners. And i see nowhere that cyric has become patron of assasins (this is Bhaal's core porto.), he only gained the murder portofolio.
Mad Mage 12-26-06, 06:36 PM	Please, folks, try to keep such discussions out of my thread, okay?
Mad Mage 01-19-07, 08:37 PM	And in that case, I'm talking about some demon princes that exist in the Realms! Sure, they're technically not deities, but they can grant spells and all, so why not? Lloth's in there mostly because of her demonic servants. Baphomet Herald: Goristro Demon (Fiendish Codex I) Allies: Howler, Bulezau Demon (FC1), Ghour Demon (PGtF) Demorgorgon Herald: Chameleon (Underdark) Human Bard 20 Allies: Succubus, Retriever, Lilutu (FCI) Graz'zt Herald: Glabrezu Fiend of Corruption (FF) 6 Allies: Succubus, Glabrezu, Marilith Lloth (Homebrew) Herald: Yolchol (FC1) Cleric 10 Allies: Myrlochar (Monsters of Faerun), Belibith, Marilith Orcus Herald: Nalfeshnee w/ 20 HD Allies: Juvenile Nabassu (FC1), Bodak, Abyssal Ghoul (FF) Yeenogu Herald: Molydeus Demon (FC1) Allies: Howler, Vrock, Abyssal Ghoul (FF)
Mad Mage 01-24-07, 09:24 PM	Arvoreen Herald: Celestial Strongheart Halfling Paladin 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Astral Deva, Brandobaris Herald: Halfling Rogue 20 Allies: Ethereal Filcher, Faerie Dragon (Draconomicon), Juvenile Copper Dragon Cyrrollalee Herald: Celestial Halfling Cleric Allies: Hollyphant (BoED), Astral Deva, Sheela Peryoyl Herald: Greenbound (LEoF) Halfling Druid 20 Allies: Dryad, Large Elemental, Oaken Defender (MM4) Urogalan Herald: Earth Elemental (MotP) Halfling Cleric 20 Allies: Medium Earth Elemental, Hammer Archon (RoS), Marut Inevitable Yondalla (homebrew) Herald: Celestial Halfling Paladin 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Astral Deva, Throne Archon (BoED) And for some non-halfling entries... Helm Herald: Axiomatic Human Fighter 20 Allies: Spectator Beholder (Lords of Madness), Zelekhut Inevitable, Hound Archon Hero Laduger (homebrew) Herald: Fiendish Duergar Fighter 10/Rogue 10 Allies: Canoloth (MM3), Maelephant (FF), Pit Fiend Siamorphe (edit) Herald: Axiomatic Human Aristocrat 20 Allies: Hound Archon, Golden Protector, Throne Archon (BoED)
The_Shaman 02-27-07, 10:57 AM	Looks good, although some of the heralds would be a bit imbalanced (i.e. the Red Knight vs that of Bahamut, poor RK ;) ). Has Shar been done already? I suppose a shade herald might be a natural, but I'm unsure of class levels - shadowdancer would fit it, but so would assassin.
Mad Mage 02-27-07, 11:13 AM	Looks good, although some of the heralds would be a bit imbalanced (i.e. the Red Knight vs that of Bahamut, poor RK ;) ). Has Shar been done already? I suppose a shade herald might be a natural, but I'm unsure of class levels - shadowdancer would fit it, but so would assassin. Shar's on pg 1, a bit towards the bottom.