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Cyric in 4ed [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Belegan
02-19-08, 07:34 AM What do you think will happen to Cyric and his clerics in 4ed?

Will it be an underground deity or will he somehow have deceived his way back into favor?
Alediran
02-19-08, 08:21 AM He'll be back again, to the dismay of every single person who hates him.
Belegan
02-19-08, 08:56 AM He'll be back again, to the dismay of every single person who hates him.
And to the delight of everyone who thinks he's a great deity to have around.
Lord Karsus
02-19-08, 09:35 AM -Being as that he'll be inprisoned, his divine politicking will be greatly reduced.
Todesherr
02-19-08, 09:45 AM -Being as that he'll be inprisoned, his divine politicking will be greatly reduced.

Loss of power as well....maybe intermediate power now?
Jiggawha
02-19-08, 10:02 AM intermediate is gone

hope he'll be back soon in politicking schemes

what will happen with poor Malik
Lord Karsus
02-19-08, 11:39 AM Loss of power as well....maybe intermediate power now?

-Probably not. Being imprisoned doesn't really equate to a loss of power, since he'll still be able to grant spells and so on (as far as we know).
Kiioro
02-19-08, 02:00 PM But I think he'll lose quite a few followers, if most of Cyric worshippers were the ones to jump out of the boat at the sight of peril and backstab when needed... Taking into account that he helped to murder Mystra, his church will be even more alienated and forbidden.

I had quite a freudian slip, the first time I read this as "Cyric in bed", obviously my first thought was in the lines of 'wtf?!'.
Lord Karsus
02-19-08, 02:03 PM Taking into account that he helped to murder Mystra, his church will be even more alienated and forbidden.

-The Church of Cyric was never 'welcomed' to begin with. Not even in Zhentil Keep!
Kiioro
02-19-08, 02:10 PM That's why I said "...even more..."

To believe in Cyric, you had to be a power-hungry secretive kind of lad/lass (minimal requirements, but well surpassed in many cases). Now, though, it looks like you'd need to be a power-hungry, slightly misanthropic and mentally unstable (paranoid?), secretive person. Which will make fun campaigns ensue, no doubt.
Lord Karsus
02-19-08, 02:19 PM -Well, it is hard to be an outsider when you are already outside.
Kiioro
02-19-08, 02:35 PM Damn, Karsus! You and your logic!

(I really need to sleep. But I think that I managed to state my point of view without sounding insane before, no?)
Alediran
02-19-08, 02:47 PM There is a difference LK, if you are an outsider's outsider it means that it's easier to Banish you from any place in the Multiverse.
Kiioro
02-19-08, 03:11 PM There is a difference LK, if you are an outsider's outsider it means that it's easier to Banish you from any place in the Multiverse.

But then, you'd be banished to where, real life?
Kenzuki
02-19-08, 03:46 PM The more I read about Cyric the more I actually like him. I like to hate him. He's so devious and spiteful. At first I didn't really like this guy because he killed Bhaal. Then I actually finished the Avatar Trilogy and see him in a better light. He's a good villan.
Storm_Silverhand
02-19-08, 04:50 PM Heya,

Cyric probably won't stay imprisoned for long... After all, they wanted new stories to tell about him, that's one reason why they killed Mystra. :rolleye2:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
02-19-08, 09:03 PM Heya,

Cyric probably won't stay imprisoned for long... After all, they wanted new stories to tell about him...

Yes indeed!

If Cyric is under house arrest, I wonder if he has to wear one of those anklet moniters or something. :rofl:
Lord Karsus
02-19-08, 09:09 PM If Cyric is under house arrest, I wonder if he has to wear one of those anklet moniters or something. :rofl:

-Hopefully Gond doesn't make it. Gond make the chain to imprison Kezef, and the prison of the Shadevari. Yeah, those both worked out good...:rolleyes:
Mister_Mxyztplk
02-19-08, 09:54 PM -Hopefully Gond doesn't make it. Gond make the chain to imprison Kezef, and the prison of the Shadevari. Yeah, those both worked out good...:rolleyes:

Shadevari?
Lord Karsus
02-19-08, 11:32 PM Shadevari?

-Primordial beings of shadow. See the Villian's Lorebook, and the Curse of the Shadowmage books.
Mister_Mxyztplk
02-20-08, 02:37 AM -Primordial beings of shadow. See the Villian's Lorebook, and the Curse of the Shadowmage books.

Thank you Lord Karsus. Your knowledge is vast. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Mxyztplk? :emp:
Lord Karsus
02-20-08, 09:50 AM Thank you Lord Karsus. Your knowledge is vast. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Mxyztplk? :emp:

-I serve no one but myself. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Karsus? The posting for 'Imp from the 5th Dimension' is still open.
18DELTA
02-20-08, 10:31 AM Yes indeed!

If Cyric is under house arrest, I wonder if he has to wear one of those anklet moniters or something. :rofl:
-I can see it now, Cyric is chillin with Shar. He looks at his watch and says oh :censored: I have a home visit from my PO. Hurry up quick, help me clean up this mess, before he gets here. So three trash bags of beer cans and pizza boxes later. In walks Mask his PO.;) :P :D

18DELTA:smirk:
Kenzuki
02-20-08, 05:29 PM At which point Cyric and Shar gank Mask and steal his power for themselves.:cool:
Storm_Silverhand
02-20-08, 05:32 PM Heya,

At which point Cyric and Shar gank Mask and steal his power for themselves.:cool:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Lord Karsus
02-20-08, 06:53 PM At which point Cyric and Shar gank Mask and steal his power for themselves.:cool:

-Probably.
Kenzuki
02-20-08, 08:48 PM Though god help the one that has to wear Mask's dorky mask. While reading Prince of Lies I laughed out loud seeing how Mask was drawn. He looked like a 30's comic book villan. Actually.....he looked like he was wearing a black version of the KKK's outfit lol.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
02-20-08, 08:51 PM -I can see it now, Cyric is chillin with Shar. He looks at his watch and says oh :censored: I have a home visit from my PO. Hurry up quick, help me clean up this mess, before he gets here. So three trash bags of beer cans and pizza boxes later. In walks Mask his PO.;) :P :D

18DELTA:smirk:

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!:D
Kenzuki
02-20-08, 08:55 PM Now one has to question just why Shar was at Cyric's house. I smell drama!
18DELTA
02-21-08, 12:43 AM Now one has to question just why Shar was at Cyric's house. I smell drama!
-Its simple...they are co-dependent.;) :rolleyes:

18DELTA:P
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus
02-21-08, 01:07 AM For some reason I'm imagining Cyric and Shar running down a street away from Tyr, Torm and Helm with Selune flashing them with a spotlight from above and the COPS theme song in the background :D
Alediran
02-21-08, 06:28 AM For some reason I'm imagining Cyric and Shar running down a street away from Tyr, Torm and Helm with Selune flashing them with a spotlight from above and the COPS theme song in the background :D

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Bonnie & Clyde
Lord Karsus
02-21-08, 10:08 AM -In the 4e Realms, if Shar and Cyric continue their alliance, I don't want to see it as a buddy-buddy thing. I'd like Cyric to perhaps be in love with Shar, and Shar, knowing this, using Cyric to further her own means, without recipricating the affection.
buzzard
02-21-08, 05:07 PM -In the 4e Realms, if Shar and Cyric continue their alliance, I don't want to see it as a buddy-buddy thing. I'd like Cyric to perhaps be in love with Shar, and Shar, knowing this, using Cyric to further her own means, without recipricating the affection.

Personally, I wouldn't like that. I mean, she already did that with Jergal, Kozah/Talos and that other crazy Netherese deity that fell in love with her. I think that they should forge a sincere alliance to survive, while they may have defeated their greatest foe -Mystra- and they are probably more powerful than ever in 4th edition with all that destruction, loss, death and calamities, the good-aligned deities surely are more pi$$ed than ever and united too, and, because of that, they should be cautious until the moment in which they can bring down the rest of their opposition.
Lord Karsus
02-21-08, 05:21 PM Personally, I wouldn't like that. I mean, she already did that with Jergal, Kozah/Talos and that other crazy Netherese deity that fell in love with her.

-Exactly. With the Shadow Weave gone, she should return to her old ways.

I think that them forging a sincere alliance to survive, while they may have defeated their greatest foe -Mystra- and they are probably more powerful than ever in 4th edition with all that destruction, loss, death and calamities, the good-aligned deities surely are more pi$$ed than ever and united too, and, because of that, they should be cautious until the moment in which they can bring down the rest of their opposition.

-I may be wrong, but nothing in AGHotR gave me the impression that anyone knows that Shar was involved. We know that Cyric slew Mystra with Shar's backing, but no one else necessarily knows. After all, Shar works in the metaphorical shadows.
buzzard
02-21-08, 05:36 PM -Exactly. With the Shadow Weave gone, she should return to her old ways.

Not necessarily, first she was a sneaky manipulator, later a portfolio usurper, maybe now she'll take another direction, if there's a deity that knows when and how to change tactics that's Shar. Consider that in 4th Edition the Empire of Shade is a major power player in the realms (if not the most powerful one) and a lot of events related to Shar's portfolios happened, this things gave her a lot of power for sure (or at least, somewhat decreased the activity/power of an important portion of the other deities). Maybe now her destructive face can take precedence over the other aspects of her portfolio and she starts a campaign of direct obliteration against her enemies.

-I may be wrong, but nothing in AGHotR gave me the impression that anyone knows that Shar was involved. We know that Cyric slew Mystra with Shar's backing, but no one else necessarily knows. After all, Shar works in the metaphorical shadows.

Right, but she was never liked in the first place and I can totally picture the goods deities as somewhat paranoid or sensitive to any evil activity in this "brave new world". Plus the Shadow Weave disappears as such, maybe that will make the rest of the pantheon somewhat suspicious of Shar (remember that she tried to acquire the Weave for herself and failed to do so).
Lord Karsus
02-21-08, 05:43 PM Not necessarily, first she was a sneaky manipulator, later a portfolio usurper, maybe now she'll take another direction, if there's a deity that knows when and how to change tactics that's Shar. Consider that in 4th Edition the Empire of Shade is a major power player in the realms (if not the most powerful one) and a lot of events related to Shar's portfolios happened, this things gave her a lot of power for sure (or at least, somewhat decreased the activity/power of an important portion of the other deities). Maybe now her destructive face can take precedence over the other aspects of her portfolio and she starts a campaign of direct obliteration against her enemies.

-The 4e Empire of Shade might not have any relationship with Shar:

[SBLOCK]-Realms of War states that Prince Revalen, the High Priest of Shar, feels betrayed by her, and has a moment of doubt in his faith. While this might be nothing, it could also theoretically mean that he causes the Empire of Shade to cut all relations with her.[/QUOTE]

Right, but she was never liked in the first place and I can totally picture the goods deities as somewhat paranoid or sensitive to any evil activity in this "brave new world". Plus the Shadow Weave disappears as such, maybe that will make the rest of the pantheon somewhat suspicious of Shar (remember that she tried to acquire the Weave for herself and failed to do so).

-That's why deities like Torm, who has been 'renewed' and 'empowered' in 4e stress not acting rashly and without thinking things through (lawful and good behaviors).
Mister_Mxyztplk
02-21-08, 06:46 PM -I serve no one but myself. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Karsus? The posting for 'Imp from the 5th Dimension' is still open.

It would be an honor. When you're all powerful, sometimes its fun to serve another powerful being, knowing that at anytime you can take over. Same deal I gave the Joker then? What do I do to become a Hand of Karsus?
Lord Karsus
02-21-08, 06:57 PM It would be an honor. When you're all powerful, sometimes its fun to serve another powerful being, knowing that at anytime you can take over.

-I wouldn't have it any other way. :emp:

What do I do to become a Hand of Karsus?

-Sign on the dotted line, don't read the fine print, and show me what smiley you want to be represented by in my signature.

x________________
Mister_Mxyztplk
02-23-08, 01:56 PM -I wouldn't have it any other way. :emp:

-Sign on the dotted line, don't read the fine print, and show me what smiley you want to be represented by in my signature.

x________________

Hmm...don't see any fine print, and I know lord Karsus wouldn't make it invisible. He's trustworthy! Sure, I'll sign x_Mxy__________. I would like to be represented by :evillaugh
Lord Karsus
02-23-08, 03:49 PM Hmm...don't see any fine print, and I know lord Karsus wouldn't make it invisible. He's trustworthy! Sure, I'll sign x_Mxy__________. I would like to be represented by :evillaugh

-Excellent. Everything is in order...

-Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp:
18DELTA
02-23-08, 03:58 PM -Excellent. Everything is in order...

-Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp:
-Awesome!!! I was going to post earlier...but didn't. Cause I figure the Boss(no I dont think you are Bruce Spingsteen:P ) needed to do his :emp: thingy.;)

18DELTA:D
Mister_Mxyztplk
02-23-08, 05:16 PM -Awesome!!! I was going to post earlier...but didn't. Cause I figure the Boss(no I dont think you are Bruce Spingsteen:P ) needed to do his :emp: thingy.;)

18DELTA:D

Cool, now I have a bunch of new friends in a new world. I think I'm going to spend the next couple of millenia on Toril. Ao, move over. :pint:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
02-23-08, 08:17 PM -Excellent. Everything is in order...

-Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp:

*the Star Wars Imperial March theme starts playing...*
Khaelieth
02-23-08, 08:22 PM -Excellent. Everything is in order...

-Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp:

Another one?! i swear, contraceptives are not legal in Karsus-land!
Lord Karsus
02-23-08, 08:27 PM Another one?! i swear, contraceptives are not legal in Karsus-land!

-They're not my children! Not in the literal sense, of course. In the metaphorical sense, however, yes, they are my children.
Khaelieth
02-23-08, 08:31 PM -They're not my children! Not in the literal sense, of course. In the metaphorical sense, however, yes, they are my children.

Metaphorical contraceptives are needed! STD's might arise!

But the Dark Sun's cool, he's a proper nutcase.
Mister_Mxyztplk
02-23-08, 09:48 PM -They're not my children! Not in the literal sense, of course. In the metaphorical sense, however, yes, they are my children.

So, is the "family" ready to conquer the Realms yet?
18DELTA
02-24-08, 01:05 AM Another one?! i swear, contraceptives are not legal in Karsus-land!
-Hater.:P

18DELTA;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Belegan 02-19-08, 07:34 AM	What do you think will happen to Cyric and his clerics in 4ed? Will it be an underground deity or will he somehow have deceived his way back into favor?
Alediran 02-19-08, 08:21 AM	He'll be back again, to the dismay of every single person who hates him.
Belegan 02-19-08, 08:56 AM	He'll be back again, to the dismay of every single person who hates him. And to the delight of everyone who thinks he's a great deity to have around.
Lord Karsus 02-19-08, 09:35 AM	-Being as that he'll be inprisoned, his divine politicking will be greatly reduced.
Todesherr 02-19-08, 09:45 AM	-Being as that he'll be inprisoned, his divine politicking will be greatly reduced. Loss of power as well....maybe intermediate power now?
Jiggawha 02-19-08, 10:02 AM	intermediate is gone hope he'll be back soon in politicking schemes what will happen with poor Malik
Lord Karsus 02-19-08, 11:39 AM	Loss of power as well....maybe intermediate power now? -Probably not. Being imprisoned doesn't really equate to a loss of power, since he'll still be able to grant spells and so on (as far as we know).
Kiioro 02-19-08, 02:00 PM	But I think he'll lose quite a few followers, if most of Cyric worshippers were the ones to jump out of the boat at the sight of peril and backstab when needed... Taking into account that he helped to murder Mystra, his church will be even more alienated and forbidden. I had quite a freudian slip, the first time I read this as "Cyric in bed", obviously my first thought was in the lines of 'wtf?!'.
Lord Karsus 02-19-08, 02:03 PM	Taking into account that he helped to murder Mystra, his church will be even more alienated and forbidden. -The Church of Cyric was never 'welcomed' to begin with. Not even in Zhentil Keep!
Kiioro 02-19-08, 02:10 PM	That's why I said "...even more..." To believe in Cyric, you had to be a power-hungry secretive kind of lad/lass (minimal requirements, but well surpassed in many cases). Now, though, it looks like you'd need to be a power-hungry, slightly misanthropic and mentally unstable (paranoid?), secretive person. Which will make fun campaigns ensue, no doubt.
Lord Karsus 02-19-08, 02:19 PM	-Well, it is hard to be an outsider when you are already outside.
Kiioro 02-19-08, 02:35 PM	Damn, Karsus! You and your logic! (I really need to sleep. But I think that I managed to state my point of view without sounding insane before, no?)
Alediran 02-19-08, 02:47 PM	There is a difference LK, if you are an outsider's outsider it means that it's easier to Banish you from any place in the Multiverse.
Kiioro 02-19-08, 03:11 PM	There is a difference LK, if you are an outsider's outsider it means that it's easier to Banish you from any place in the Multiverse. But then, you'd be banished to where, real life?
Kenzuki 02-19-08, 03:46 PM	The more I read about Cyric the more I actually like him. I like to hate him. He's so devious and spiteful. At first I didn't really like this guy because he killed Bhaal. Then I actually finished the Avatar Trilogy and see him in a better light. He's a good villan.
Storm_Silverhand 02-19-08, 04:50 PM	Heya, Cyric probably won't stay imprisoned for long... After all, they wanted new stories to tell about him, that's one reason why they killed Mystra. :rolleye2:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 02-19-08, 09:03 PM	Heya, Cyric probably won't stay imprisoned for long... After all, they wanted new stories to tell about him... Yes indeed! If Cyric is under house arrest, I wonder if he has to wear one of those anklet moniters or something. :rofl:
Lord Karsus 02-19-08, 09:09 PM	If Cyric is under house arrest, I wonder if he has to wear one of those anklet moniters or something. :rofl: -Hopefully Gond doesn't make it. Gond make the chain to imprison Kezef, and the prison of the Shadevari. Yeah, those both worked out good...:rolleyes:
Mister_Mxyztplk 02-19-08, 09:54 PM	-Hopefully Gond doesn't make it. Gond make the chain to imprison Kezef, and the prison of the Shadevari. Yeah, those both worked out good...:rolleyes: Shadevari?
Lord Karsus 02-19-08, 11:32 PM	Shadevari? -Primordial beings of shadow. See the Villian's Lorebook, and the Curse of the Shadowmage books.
Mister_Mxyztplk 02-20-08, 02:37 AM	-Primordial beings of shadow. See the Villian's Lorebook, and the Curse of the Shadowmage books. Thank you Lord Karsus. Your knowledge is vast. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Mxyztplk? :emp:
Lord Karsus 02-20-08, 09:50 AM	Thank you Lord Karsus. Your knowledge is vast. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Mxyztplk? :emp: -I serve no one but myself. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Karsus? The posting for 'Imp from the 5th Dimension' is still open.
18DELTA 02-20-08, 10:31 AM	Yes indeed! If Cyric is under house arrest, I wonder if he has to wear one of those anklet moniters or something. :rofl: -I can see it now, Cyric is chillin with Shar. He looks at his watch and says oh :censored: I have a home visit from my PO. Hurry up quick, help me clean up this mess, before he gets here. So three trash bags of beer cans and pizza boxes later. In walks Mask his PO.;) :P :D 18DELTA:smirk:
Kenzuki 02-20-08, 05:29 PM	At which point Cyric and Shar gank Mask and steal his power for themselves.:cool:
Storm_Silverhand 02-20-08, 05:32 PM	Heya, At which point Cyric and Shar gank Mask and steal his power for themselves.:cool: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Lord Karsus 02-20-08, 06:53 PM	At which point Cyric and Shar gank Mask and steal his power for themselves.:cool: -Probably.
Kenzuki 02-20-08, 08:48 PM	Though god help the one that has to wear Mask's dorky mask. While reading Prince of Lies I laughed out loud seeing how Mask was drawn. He looked like a 30's comic book villan. Actually.....he looked like he was wearing a black version of the KKK's outfit lol.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 02-20-08, 08:51 PM	-I can see it now, Cyric is chillin with Shar. He looks at his watch and says oh :censored: I have a home visit from my PO. Hurry up quick, help me clean up this mess, before he gets here. So three trash bags of beer cans and pizza boxes later. In walks Mask his PO.;) :P :D 18DELTA:smirk: Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!:D
Kenzuki 02-20-08, 08:55 PM	Now one has to question just why Shar was at Cyric's house. I smell drama!
18DELTA 02-21-08, 12:43 AM	Now one has to question just why Shar was at Cyric's house. I smell drama! -Its simple...they are co-dependent.;) :rolleyes: 18DELTA:P
Ody_Saraph_of_Karsus 02-21-08, 01:07 AM	For some reason I'm imagining Cyric and Shar running down a street away from Tyr, Torm and Helm with Selune flashing them with a spotlight from above and the COPS theme song in the background :D
Alediran 02-21-08, 06:28 AM	For some reason I'm imagining Cyric and Shar running down a street away from Tyr, Torm and Helm with Selune flashing them with a spotlight from above and the COPS theme song in the background :D :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Bonnie & Clyde
Lord Karsus 02-21-08, 10:08 AM	-In the 4e Realms, if Shar and Cyric continue their alliance, I don't want to see it as a buddy-buddy thing. I'd like Cyric to perhaps be in love with Shar, and Shar, knowing this, using Cyric to further her own means, without recipricating the affection.
buzzard 02-21-08, 05:07 PM	-In the 4e Realms, if Shar and Cyric continue their alliance, I don't want to see it as a buddy-buddy thing. I'd like Cyric to perhaps be in love with Shar, and Shar, knowing this, using Cyric to further her own means, without recipricating the affection. Personally, I wouldn't like that. I mean, she already did that with Jergal, Kozah/Talos and that other crazy Netherese deity that fell in love with her. I think that they should forge a sincere alliance to survive, while they may have defeated their greatest foe -Mystra- and they are probably more powerful than ever in 4th edition with all that destruction, loss, death and calamities, the good-aligned deities surely are more pi$$ed than ever and united too, and, because of that, they should be cautious until the moment in which they can bring down the rest of their opposition.
Lord Karsus 02-21-08, 05:21 PM	Personally, I wouldn't like that. I mean, she already did that with Jergal, Kozah/Talos and that other crazy Netherese deity that fell in love with her. -Exactly. With the Shadow Weave gone, she should return to her old ways. I think that them forging a sincere alliance to survive, while they may have defeated their greatest foe -Mystra- and they are probably more powerful than ever in 4th edition with all that destruction, loss, death and calamities, the good-aligned deities surely are more pi$$ed than ever and united too, and, because of that, they should be cautious until the moment in which they can bring down the rest of their opposition. -I may be wrong, but nothing in AGHotR gave me the impression that anyone knows that Shar was involved. We know that Cyric slew Mystra with Shar's backing, but no one else necessarily knows. After all, Shar works in the metaphorical shadows.
buzzard 02-21-08, 05:36 PM	-Exactly. With the Shadow Weave gone, she should return to her old ways. Not necessarily, first she was a sneaky manipulator, later a portfolio usurper, maybe now she'll take another direction, if there's a deity that knows when and how to change tactics that's Shar. Consider that in 4th Edition the Empire of Shade is a major power player in the realms (if not the most powerful one) and a lot of events related to Shar's portfolios happened, this things gave her a lot of power for sure (or at least, somewhat decreased the activity/power of an important portion of the other deities). Maybe now her destructive face can take precedence over the other aspects of her portfolio and she starts a campaign of direct obliteration against her enemies. -I may be wrong, but nothing in AGHotR gave me the impression that anyone knows that Shar was involved. We know that Cyric slew Mystra with Shar's backing, but no one else necessarily knows. After all, Shar works in the metaphorical shadows. Right, but she was never liked in the first place and I can totally picture the goods deities as somewhat paranoid or sensitive to any evil activity in this "brave new world". Plus the Shadow Weave disappears as such, maybe that will make the rest of the pantheon somewhat suspicious of Shar (remember that she tried to acquire the Weave for herself and failed to do so).
Lord Karsus 02-21-08, 05:43 PM	Not necessarily, first she was a sneaky manipulator, later a portfolio usurper, maybe now she'll take another direction, if there's a deity that knows when and how to change tactics that's Shar. Consider that in 4th Edition the Empire of Shade is a major power player in the realms (if not the most powerful one) and a lot of events related to Shar's portfolios happened, this things gave her a lot of power for sure (or at least, somewhat decreased the activity/power of an important portion of the other deities). Maybe now her destructive face can take precedence over the other aspects of her portfolio and she starts a campaign of direct obliteration against her enemies. -The 4e Empire of Shade might not have any relationship with Shar: [SBLOCK]-Realms of War states that Prince Revalen, the High Priest of Shar, feels betrayed by her, and has a moment of doubt in his faith. While this might be nothing, it could also theoretically mean that he causes the Empire of Shade to cut all relations with her.[/QUOTE] Right, but she was never liked in the first place and I can totally picture the goods deities as somewhat paranoid or sensitive to any evil activity in this "brave new world". Plus the Shadow Weave disappears as such, maybe that will make the rest of the pantheon somewhat suspicious of Shar (remember that she tried to acquire the Weave for herself and failed to do so). -That's why deities like Torm, who has been 'renewed' and 'empowered' in 4e stress not acting rashly and without thinking things through (lawful and good behaviors).
Mister_Mxyztplk 02-21-08, 06:46 PM	-I serve no one but myself. Have you ever considered joining the Hands of Karsus? The posting for 'Imp from the 5th Dimension' is still open. It would be an honor. When you're all powerful, sometimes its fun to serve another powerful being, knowing that at anytime you can take over. Same deal I gave the Joker then? What do I do to become a Hand of Karsus?
Lord Karsus 02-21-08, 06:57 PM	It would be an honor. When you're all powerful, sometimes its fun to serve another powerful being, knowing that at anytime you can take over. -I wouldn't have it any other way. :emp: What do I do to become a Hand of Karsus? -Sign on the dotted line, don't read the fine print, and show me what smiley you want to be represented by in my signature. x________________
Mister_Mxyztplk 02-23-08, 01:56 PM	-I wouldn't have it any other way. :emp: -Sign on the dotted line, don't read the fine print, and show me what smiley you want to be represented by in my signature. x________________ Hmm...don't see any fine print, and I know lord Karsus wouldn't make it invisible. He's trustworthy! Sure, I'll sign x_Mxy__________. I would like to be represented by :evillaugh
Lord Karsus 02-23-08, 03:49 PM	Hmm...don't see any fine print, and I know lord Karsus wouldn't make it invisible. He's trustworthy! Sure, I'll sign x_Mxy__________. I would like to be represented by :evillaugh -Excellent. Everything is in order... -Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp:
18DELTA 02-23-08, 03:58 PM	-Excellent. Everything is in order... -Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp: -Awesome!!! I was going to post earlier...but didn't. Cause I figure the Boss(no I dont think you are Bruce Spingsteen:P ) needed to do his :emp: thingy.;) 18DELTA:D
Mister_Mxyztplk 02-23-08, 05:16 PM	-Awesome!!! I was going to post earlier...but didn't. Cause I figure the Boss(no I dont think you are Bruce Spingsteen:P ) needed to do his :emp: thingy.;) 18DELTA:D Cool, now I have a bunch of new friends in a new world. I think I'm going to spend the next couple of millenia on Toril. Ao, move over. :pint:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 02-23-08, 08:17 PM	-Excellent. Everything is in order... -Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp: the Star Wars Imperial March theme starts playing...
Khaelieth 02-23-08, 08:22 PM	-Excellent. Everything is in order... -Rise, Lord Mxyztplk...:emp: Another one?! i swear, contraceptives are not legal in Karsus-land!
Lord Karsus 02-23-08, 08:27 PM	Another one?! i swear, contraceptives are not legal in Karsus-land! -They're not my children! Not in the literal sense, of course. In the metaphorical sense, however, yes, they are my children.
Khaelieth 02-23-08, 08:31 PM	-They're not my children! Not in the literal sense, of course. In the metaphorical sense, however, yes, they are my children. Metaphorical contraceptives are needed! STD's might arise! But the Dark Sun's cool, he's a proper nutcase.
Mister_Mxyztplk 02-23-08, 09:48 PM	-They're not my children! Not in the literal sense, of course. In the metaphorical sense, however, yes, they are my children. So, is the "family" ready to conquer the Realms yet?
18DELTA 02-24-08, 01:05 AM	Another one?! i swear, contraceptives are not legal in Karsus-land! -Hater.:P 18DELTA;)