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Lord_Steve 05-18-07, 06:09 PM	Sune, the Goddess of Love!!! Well known for her ummmmm......sexually active female clerics/followers, but what of the male followers? Where do the male Sunites fit in? Are there any? What classes do they usually take? They're personality in general?
Lord Karsus 05-18-07, 06:35 PM	-All of the information you want it in Faiths and Avatars.
Manshoon 05-18-07, 06:43 PM	Well met, a male Sunite appears in Heirs of Prophecy from Lisa Smedman. i remember him to be quite proficient in the sensual arts as well. And Adon appearing in the Avatar Trilogy was also a Sunite.
GothicDan 05-18-07, 07:51 PM	... Must read more Lisa Smedman. Also, note that Sune is NOT the goddess of physical sexuality or sensuality. She's the goddess of love and beauty, which is different. Sharess is the deity of more carnal things. And the picture of her 2E Specialty Priest was actually a male. ;)
Zandilar 05-18-07, 08:11 PM	Heya, Sune's clergy has typically been weighted more towards women than men, and higher up positions in the clergy are almost always occupied by women. However, this has been changing recently as Sune has taken a leaf out of Tymora's book and her church has begun to sponsor more adventurers. Which, I suppose, has lead to more conversions to her faith. The change towards a more balanced clergy won't happen overnight (these things tend to happen slowly, just as in the real world), the gender gap will close up somewhat - but I don't think it will ever actually reach parity. (I will note here: there are several faiths that are probably balanced the other way - off the top of my head, Lathander, Tempus, Tyr, and other "hyper masculine" deities probably have more males than females in their clergy. In fact, it is even noted, at least in Tempus's entry in Faiths and Avatars, that his clergy tend to be human males - somehow this vanished between F&A and F&P, much to my annoyance. So it's not like this is unbalanced at all.)
GothicDan 05-18-07, 08:16 PM	(I will note here: there are several faiths that are probably balanced the other way - off the top of my head, Lathander, Tempus, Tyr, and other "hyper masculine" deities probably have more males than females in their clergy. In fact, it is even noted, at least in Tempus's entry in Faiths and Avatars, that his clergy tend to be human males - somehow this vanished between F&A and F&P, much to my annoyance. So it's not like this is unbalanced at all.) I'm not so sure about Tyr's being male-dominated. Lathander, perhaps, because he very obviously represents male virility, as opposed to Chauntea being female fertility. I always picked up on Tyr as a cross between the Norse Tyr and a bit of Athene, myself, in terms of portfolio and alignment. Tempus's also makes sense. Females tend to be more likely to find ways to solving problems that don't directly lead to violence, as much as males. (Not saying one way is better than the other, that's just how things tend to go - at least in our world.)
Zandilar 05-18-07, 08:28 PM	Heya, I'm not so sure about Tyr's being male-dominated. Lathander, perhaps, because he very obviously represents male virility, as opposed to Chauntea being female fertility. Lathander and Chauntea do seem to be representative of that, though neither of them actually have fertility in their portfoilios! (Which I find odd, particularly for Chauntea!) I always picked up on Tyr as a cross between the Norse Tyr and a bit of Athene, myself, in terms of portfolio and alignment. I guess I'm just too influenced by Tyr as a crusty old, one handed war god, as he is in the Norse mythos. ;) But you do have a point. Tempus's also makes sense. Females tend to be more likely to find ways to solving problems that don't directly lead to violence, as much as males. (Not saying one way is better than the other, that's just how things tend to go - at least in our world.) Yes, I agree with you fully there. :) What about the Red Knight, though?
GothicDan 05-18-07, 08:35 PM	Lathander and Chauntea do seem to be representative of that, though neither of them actually have fertility in their portfoilios! (Which I find odd, particularly for Chauntea!) No, but they do go on all about it in their dogmas and such! Ah well. I never really was much for the "there must be an explicitely stated portfolio for EVERYTHING" in the Faerunian pantheon. I think some of the more powerful deities just 'happen' to pick up portfolios that are associated with their own. Lathander and Chauntea, both being Greater Powers, would be examples of such! I guess I'm just too influenced by Tyr as a crusty old, one handed war god, as he is in the Norse mythos. But you do have a point. Yeah... Yeah. That IS pretty much what he was, huh? Though some say he predates the archetype of Odin, since he was a variation on the Sky-God principle, which Odin very much was not. That's one of the things I always found the most interesting about the Norse pantheon... It's Indo-European, but does not have a supreme Sky-God ruler. At least, it didn't during the time of the writings from which Snorri derived his Eddas. Odin's a super-interesting pantheon head figure. And Loki, too. Both had some surprisingly... Feminine tendencies. Yes, I agree with you fully there. What about the Red Knight, though? Now, THERE'S the other part of Athene I was looking for! :) I actually find the Red Knight really interesting. Most female divine figures were more of the chaotic, impassioned type (Istar/Inanna, Sekhmet), and Red Knight most certainly is not. The closest analogy I can find, as stated above, is Athene, who was a very organized, orderly warrior goddess of civilization and all. And tactics... Come from civilization, perhaps? Not quite, I know, but it's something of a fit. Red Knight (and Siamorphe) were always two of my favorite demideities.
Old Sage 05-18-07, 08:50 PM	I'd say that "sex" as a aspect to be connected with a deity in the Realms -- would be something shared between all three deities... Sune, Sharess... and perhaps even Lliira. Sune is about how love can lead you to the truest path of your heart's desire... sometimes even if you don't know it yet yourself. Love doesn't immediately equal sex, at least... not in the truest relationships built upon the love that Sune champions... but it is the beginning point of a sexual aspect for the Realms. Sharess, the Dancing Lady, represents the notion of fulfillment through hedonism or other bodily and spiritual pleasures... in this case, sex. But it's important to note that some of these experiences can only be enjoyed "to their fullest" (as is the dogma of Sharess) when you've built it up from something else. In the case of sex, this is love, and the notions Sune embodies. Sex with someone you love is infinitely more fulfilling and sensually pleasurable than when it is just something transitory... something that is satisfied at that very moment. From which, we come to Lliira... she respects the liberty of love and freedom... which through sex... is the end point. The love you share with someone whereupon no care or frustration would dare disturb. It is built upon the fulfillment of sensual desire, through Sharess, which is the result of truest love... through Sune. -- Whoa! Never let it be said that love and sex aren't complicated.
Old Sage 05-18-07, 08:52 PM	In fact, the entire concept of love, because even the noblest love can be "dirty" at times, could be embodied by the aspects which Sune supports. I said above that "Sune is about how love can lead you to the truest path of your heart's desire... sometimes even if you don't know it yet yourself." Sometimes, we don't see the love we have for another staring us right in the face, because we're consumed with feelings that impose themselves upon the love we should be feeling -- feelings of hatred, of anger, or perhaps, even resentment. This changes the state of what could be a noble love, to something that is "dirty". If the love is meant to be, then it will endure. It will evolve. It will become your true path to your heart's desire.
GothicDan 05-18-07, 08:58 PM	Old Sage... You wax so poetic and philosophical! ... I think my notions of 'love' would often be more in line with Bane and Loviatar, myself. *Evil gay laughter.*
Zandilar 05-18-07, 09:37 PM	Heya, No, but they do go on all about it in their dogmas and such! Ah well. I never really was much for the "there must be an explicitely stated portfolio for EVERYTHING" in the Faerunian pantheon. I think some of the more powerful deities just 'happen' to pick up portfolios that are associated with their own. Lathander and Chauntea, both being Greater Powers, would be examples of such! It is such an important aspect that it should be in their portfolios. The only deity I can think of, off the top of my head, with it actually in their portfolio is Shiallia - and only as woodland fertility. I think it's an oversight that just got perpetuated in 3e. ;) Now, THERE'S the other part of Athene I was looking for! :) I actually find the Red Knight really interesting. Most female divine figures were more of the chaotic, impassioned type (Istar/Inanna, Sekhmet), and Red Knight most certainly is not. The closest analogy I can find, as stated above, is Athene, who was a very organized, orderly warrior goddess of civilization and all. And tactics... Come from civilization, perhaps? Interesting observations there... :) I don't think I have much to add to that. Not quite, I know, but it's something of a fit. Red Knight (and Siamorphe) were always two of my favorite demideities. You've got good taste. ;)
GothicDan 05-18-07, 09:39 PM	It is such an important aspect that it should be in their portfolios. The only deity I can think of, off the top of my head, with it actually in their portfolio is Shiallia - and only as woodland fertility. I think it's an oversight that just got perpetuated in 3e. Perhaps. I wonder what Ed would have to say about it. If only I had the patience to await a response. ;) You've got good taste. Why, thank you! *Puffs up.*
Zandilar 05-18-07, 09:52 PM	Heya, I'd say that "sex" as a aspect to be connected with a deity in the Realms -- would be something shared between all three deities... Sune, Sharess... and perhaps even Lliira. Very interesting post! :) I think Sune and Sharess in particular are often misunderstood, though, and oversimplified - which is doing them quite a disservice. Sune is about Love, but she's also about Passion and Beauty. Love and Passion are not always about sex. You can love your mother/father/siblings, love a concept or idea, feel passionate about some endevour or ideal - she is the goddess of all these things (and just about anything else you can think of connected to her portfolio). Beauty, too, is more than just how a man or a woman looks, it can be about a person's soul, how they are on the inside is just as important as their physical form... Beauty can be found in everything, art, music, literature, and nature - just to name a few. (Personally, just on that basis, I think Sune should be almost as powerful as Mystra, simply because she embodies such universal concepts.) Sharess is about more than just sexual pleasure. She is about pleasure period. The pleasure you get drinking a fine wine, listening to music, relaxing in a warm spring, sleeping in the sunlight (like a cat) - all of these things fill the senses and fulfill the hedonist.
GothicDan 05-18-07, 09:58 PM	(Personally, just on that basis, I think Sune should be almost as powerful as Mystra, simply because she embodies such universal concepts.) A LOT of deities embody such universal concepts, though. Loviatar and pain - everyone feels pain. Lliira and happiness - everyone wants to feel happiness. Oghma - every skill that someone has, every word they speak, every communication, is an extension of knowledge. What really energizes Mystra so much is the Weave itself, and how it's connected to everything. Like the Force! I think Milil and Sune should have a fling. They'd make beautiful children.
Zandilar 05-18-07, 10:01 PM	Heya, What really energizes Mystra so much is the Weave itself, and how it's connected to everything. Like the Force! Hmm a good point. I think Milil and Sune should have a fling. They'd make beautiful children. They would, I think. Children with the faces of angels and voices that would just break your heart... *sigh*
GothicDan 05-18-07, 10:02 PM	... I think I just fell in love!
Old Sage 05-18-07, 11:01 PM	Sune is about Love, but she's also about Passion and Beauty. Love and Passion are not always about sex. You can love your mother/father/siblings, love a concept or idea, feel passionate about some endevour or ideal - she is the goddess of all these things (and just about anything else you can think of connected to her portfolio).I'd agree with that for the most part. Sune's dogma does acknowledge the reality that not all love is of the romantic kind... and that warm friendship and deep admiration for others -- which can be 'types' of love, though not necessarily romantic, shared between friends and family, or even between objects and/or concepts -- are just as much important to the faith, as is the concept of true and romantic love.
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 12:05 AM	*Evil gay laughter.* -What exactly does that sound like? :confused:
GothicDan 05-19-07, 12:11 AM	The world may never know.
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 12:15 AM	-Well, if I ever need to menace someone, I'll keep you and your evil gay laughter in mind. Expect a call.
GothicDan 05-19-07, 01:01 AM	Hot.
Arbourean 05-19-07, 01:15 AM	Adon was a whiny emo who decided to blame Sune for not being able to pick up the ladies. I'm so glad he didn't get the big prize at the end. The novels certainly portray her as vapid, and more like Sharess than the personification of romantic love and beauty.
Zandilar 05-19-07, 02:48 AM	Heya, Adon was a whiny emo who decided to blame Sune for not being able to pick up the ladies. I'm so glad he didn't get the big prize at the end. He had changed by the end of the Avatar trilogy. As for a big prize, he did end up Mystra's Patriarch (aka pontiff) on Faerun for a while, and while Cyric turned him mad and made him temporarily false/faithless, he was forgiven and dwells in Dweomerheart. The novels certainly portray her as vapid, and more like Sharess than the personification of romantic love and beauty. Sune hasn't really had much of a presence in the novels... But most gods get a raw deal there, anyway.
WightPower 05-19-07, 04:12 AM	love is about more than sex though, right? I'm going to stay quiet now
Khaelieth 05-19-07, 06:22 AM	Ehem. Us elves tend to like Hanali Celanil as well. *Whacks Lord Steve with the Khae-stick* Their personality. You have written "They are personality.";)
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 10:00 AM	love is about more than sex though, right? -No, ah, love is about, well, love. I'm going to stay quiet now -Yes, you do that.
Khaelieth 05-19-07, 10:57 AM	Love has nothing to do with sex.
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 11:18 AM	-Sex is often a..."byproduct" of love. Sometimes, it's even the other way.
Steelwind 05-19-07, 12:25 PM	Sometimes, it's even the other way. I was wondering how you and Dan ended up together. Best of luck to you two crazy kids. :smirk:
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 01:04 PM	I was wondering how you and Dan ended up together. Best of luck to you two crazy kids. :smirk: -Dan is getting married to Sage! How can you insinuate such things, especially in from of good ol' Sage, here!
Steelwind 05-19-07, 01:19 PM	Oops, did that slip out. Gosh, I hope the weddings not off now. :evillaugh
Lord_Steve 05-19-07, 01:22 PM	Ehem. Us elves tend to like Hanali Celanil as well. *Whacks Lord Steve with the Khae-stick* Their personality. You have written "They are personality.";) Ow!!!!!!! :weep: So were thinking big hottie, sexy flirts right?
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 01:29 PM	Oops, did that slip out. Gosh, I hope the weddings not off now. :evillaugh -As long as I am paid in advance, this third will marry anyone.
Steelwind 05-19-07, 01:35 PM	-As long as I am paid in advance, this third will marry anyone. Ooooo, the priest and the groom run off together, I smell scandel in page 6 of the Waterdeep Post.
Lord_Steve 05-19-07, 01:36 PM	Ooooo, the priest and the groom run off together, I smell scandel in page 6 of the Waterdeep Post. *laughs his ass off* Oh that was a good one!!!!
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 01:44 PM	Ooooo, the priest and the groom run off together, I smell scandel in page 6 of the Waterdeep Post. -Well, I can't marry myself. Kind of doesn't work like that. -And anyway, I am only 1/3 of a total being. I can't actually get married. I'd need to bring KtM, and our other ellusive third along.
Steelwind 05-19-07, 01:50 PM	-Well, I can't marry myself. Kind of doesn't work like that. -And anyway, I am only 1/3 of a total being. I can't actually get married. I'd need to bring KtM, and our other ellusive third along. Who said anything about you getting married, you and Dan are just gonna run off together to fulfill your frivalious, hedonistic desires, leaving Sage crying at the alter......poor Sage.
Khaelieth 05-19-07, 02:53 PM	Ow!!!!!!! :weep: So were thinking big hottie, sexy flirts right? *Whacks with Khae-stick* We're! Hanali Celanil shares her bath with Sune. :D
Steelwind 05-19-07, 03:00 PM	Hanali Celanil shares her bath with Sune. :D Is that available on pay per view? ;)
GothicDan 05-19-07, 06:49 PM	I'd never leave Sage!!!1one
Zandilar 05-19-07, 09:06 PM	Heya, Sharess shares it with Hanali and Sune too, you know. Is that available on pay per view? ;) Sure, if you feel like being blinded....
Old Sage 05-19-07, 09:09 PM	I'd never leave Sage!!!1oneI need a lot of lovin'... :P
GothicDan 05-19-07, 09:26 PM	I can provide. ;) I was thinking last night of how awesome the 'mini-pantheons' in FR are. I like them a lot.
Old Sage 05-19-07, 09:37 PM	Any in particular that have caught your eye? The 'Dark Gods' have always been a favorite for me...
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 10:18 PM	Sure, if you feel like being blinded.... -How soon might we become blinded? :D :embarrass
GothicDan 05-19-07, 10:37 PM	The ones that pop out at me are the Dark Gods and the Deities of Fury. Of course, I'd probably dedicate myself more to the little magical mini-pantheon (Mystra, Savras, Azuth, Velsharoon) and the Knowledge one (Oghma, Deneir, Milil).
Lord Karsus 05-19-07, 11:05 PM	-Savras should be given membership to that Knowledge group. I like Savras, actually. He gets little respect. The guy deserves a "power boost" in the form of the 'Time' portfolio. :)
GothicDan 05-19-07, 11:10 PM	I like Savras a lot, but I think 'Time' is a little too big for him, right now. Then again, Cyric got boosted from completely average mortal to uber deity... Savras at least gained his divinity directly through his own power and divine patronage of Mystra. I'd love to see him start getting along with Labelas more, and perhaps learn the secrets of chronomancy from him. That'd be a neat portfolio for him, actually - chronomancy. And then, maybe, in time, time. (Ha.)
Zandilar 05-20-07, 02:09 AM	Heya, -How soon might we become blinded? :D :embarrass Oh, it wouldn't be intentional blindness. Sharess, at least, is a bit of an exhibitionist. ;) However, mortal eyes, looking upon divine beauty... Might be just more than ordinary optic nerves can handle. Unless you were invited to watch, then they might "turn down the brightness" just for you. :D
GothicDan 05-20-07, 03:39 AM	Or if you were gay? Because, naked females? Ew ew.
Khaelieth 05-20-07, 10:02 AM	Heya, Oh, it wouldn't be intentional blindness. Sharess, at least, is a bit of an exhibitionist. ;) However, mortal eyes, looking upon divine beauty... Might be just more than ordinary optic nerves can handle. Unless you were invited to watch, then they might "turn down the brightness" just for you. :D Pfsch. We sun elves perfected the art of being a peeping tom ages ago! We've got Goggles of Oggling, which protect you against everything from the Nymph's blinding beauty to human ugliness! We also invented Beer Goggles, Goggles of Minute Seeing (!) and the legendary Beer Jacket, for those long treks home to Evermeet from Osse.
Lord_Steve 05-20-07, 04:38 PM	*Whacks with Khae-stick* We're! Hanali Celanil shares her bath with Sune. :D Ow!!!!!! Damnit! *pulls out bastard sword and cuts you in half.* Now, since when did the Sun Elves become beer drinking alchoholics?
Khaelieth 05-20-07, 04:52 PM	Ow!!!!!! Damnit! *pulls out bastard sword and cuts you in half.* Now, since when did the Sun Elves become beer drinking alchoholics? We also invented beer! Is there a dwarf love-god btw? *Shudders at the thought*
XHereticX 05-20-07, 05:15 PM	We also invented beer! Is there a dwarf love-god btw? *Shudders at the thought* remember, dwarf-women have beards too:D And there is always sharindlar
Lord_Steve 05-20-07, 05:18 PM	remember, dwarf-women have beards too:D I think this is the reason to shudder
XHereticX 05-20-07, 05:20 PM	I think this is the reason to shudder Not for GD:rolleyes:
Lord Karsus 05-20-07, 06:18 PM	Oh, it wouldn't be intentional blindness. Sharess, at least, is a bit of an exhibitionist. ;) However, mortal eyes, looking upon divine beauty... Might be just more than ordinary optic nerves can handle. Unless you were invited to watch, then they might "turn down the brightness" just for you. :D -It's a very good thing I'm not a mortal anymore...:D
XHereticX 05-20-07, 06:57 PM	-It's a very good thing I'm not a mortal anymore...:D Wait, aren't you dead
Zandilar 05-20-07, 07:50 PM	Heya, Or if you were gay? Because, naked females? Ew ew. I'm sure if they wanted you there, they'd switch genders. :P Heck, they might just invite Lathander and Corellon along... Naked spa party in the Evergold! (Now, if I could just convince Mystra and Eilistraee to join us...)
XHereticX 05-20-07, 07:53 PM	Heya, I'm sure if they wanted you there, they'd switch genders. :P Heck, they might just invite Lathander and Corellon along... Naked spa party in the Evergold! (Now, if I could just convince Mystra and Eilistraee to join us...) Zandilar, plz don't get my hormones so worked up now, plzzz....:censored:
Steelwind 05-21-07, 02:17 AM	Sune, Sharess, Hanali, Llira, Mystra, and Eilistraee pillow-fighting at the sorority house.............ahhh, good times.
Khaelieth 05-21-07, 03:51 AM	Imagine the dwarf orgies. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
GothicDan 05-21-07, 04:21 AM	Party at Dan's. Apply if you're a relatively young (30 and under) male elf, half-elf, or human mortal, or deity of one of aforementioned races, with a Charisma of 16 or above. A Strength and Constitution of 14 or higher, and Dex of 12 or higher, will also be taken into consideration. No Intelligence or Wisdom required unless you're also applying for the position of Consort. ;)
Old Sage 05-21-07, 04:39 AM	*Sounds of the Old Sage chanting divine-inspired melodies in the background* ;)
Steelwind 05-21-07, 06:17 AM	Apply if you're a relatively young (30 and under) male elf, half-elf, or human mortal, or deity of one of aforementioned races, with a Charisma of 16 or above. A Strength and Constitution of 14 or higher, and Dex of 12 or higher, will also be taken into consideration. No Intelligence or Wisdom required unless you're also applying for the position of Consort. ;) What he said, but female.
GothicDan 05-21-07, 08:02 AM	Boo! ;)
GothicDan 05-21-07, 08:02 AM	*Sounds of the Old Sage chanting divine-inspired melodies in the background* Sage is invited even if he doesn't meet the qualifications. (Which I'm sure he does!) He's just too intellectually hawt!
Steelwind 05-21-07, 09:44 AM	Boo! ;) Dont hate. :cool:
Lord Karsus 05-21-07, 09:58 AM	Wait, aren't you dead -Well, not exactly. I'm not really alive, though, either. And, most confusingly, I am a god, but I'm not. Apply if you're a relatively young (30 and under) male elf, half-elf, or human mortal, or deity of one of aforementioned races, with a Charisma of 16 or above. A Strength and Constitution of 14 or higher, and Dex of 12 or higher, will also be taken into consideration. No Intelligence or Wisdom required unless you're also applying for the position of Consort. ;) -Heh, put out an ad in the local newspaper and see what happens...:)
GothicDan 05-21-07, 02:08 PM	I'll put it in Aurora's catalogue!
Karsus the Mad 05-21-07, 03:25 PM	I'll put it in Aurora's catalogue! I'm sure Da Roni could come up with some interesting mechanized toys. Automatic whipping post, everfull lube tube, mechanical man wonder, oscilating spiked bed, etc.
GothicDan 05-21-07, 03:53 PM	*Just laughs.* So appropriately inappropriate.
Lord Karsus 05-21-07, 07:17 PM	-Dan, change your avatar back. Right now.
Old Sage 05-21-07, 08:10 PM	Why? I like it. And Dalamar's always been a favorite for me. Looking good, GD. ;)
Lord Karsus 05-21-07, 08:35 PM	-Dan is a Dustman. He has to be. He just isn't Dan without the symbol.
Old Sage 05-21-07, 08:57 PM	Dustmen don't usually 'want' however... they just use what may be useful for their work -- GD obviously sees some need for the "Dalamar" avatar, so... :D
GothWulf 05-24-07, 10:49 PM	remember, dwarf-women have beards too:D Thats why there are a lot more gay dwarves then anyone knows...after all, unless you are a dwarf, how can you tell? *chuckles* Wulfe
GothWulf 05-24-07, 10:52 PM	Heya, I'm sure if they wanted you there, they'd switch genders. :P Heck, they might just invite Lathander and Corellon along... Naked spa party in the Evergold! (Now, if I could just convince Mystra and Eilistraee to join us...) If Lathander and Corellon show up, I sooo want an invite! And if Im a good boy and pray really hard, then maybe Torm will show up too. *faints* Wulfe
GothicDan 05-24-07, 11:24 PM	Currently, Dan is a holy servant of the Seldarine. He has his reasons. Another hot male deity - Milil!
Karsus the Mad 05-24-07, 11:30 PM	Thats why there are a lot more gay dwarves then anyone knows...after all, unless you are a dwarf, how can you tell? *chuckles* Wulfe And also: When it's gotten to the point you can tell, does it matter?;) Rarrr Dwarves are naturally bisexual, otherwise they wouldn't procreate percentage wise enough to keep the species viable:D
GothWulf 05-25-07, 12:41 AM	And also: When it's gotten to the point you can tell, does it matter?;) Rarrr Dwarves are naturally bisexual, otherwise they wouldn't procreate percentage wise enough to keep the species viable:D Well...they also think a "hot date" has something to do with spending the night in the forge....DEFINATELY something wrong with de dwarves..... Wulfe
GothicDan 05-25-07, 12:50 AM	Blacksmiths can be hot. *Gendry from GRRM!*
Karsus the Mad 05-25-07, 07:14 AM	Well...they also think a "hot date" has something to do with spending the night in the forge....DEFINATELY something wrong with de dwarves..... Wulfe I love smithing and take advantage of any oppertunity to play with anything that produces an extreme, and dangerous, amount of heat. Thus, I too find spending the night in a forge to be a nice option. There's also all those tools....;) If I wasn't a lawfully chaotic schizophrenic human, I'd be a dwarf.... Think of it as extreme fireside romance. The fireplace just happens to be much larger (more romantic?) and there's more options for foreplay. I think that's how dwarves see it, on those occasions they think of romance anyway.
Khaelieth 05-25-07, 07:33 AM	Mechanized thingies... Psch. Ladies, the greatest invention since the Khae-stick... The Dancing Khae-Stick of Pleasure!
Zandilar 05-25-07, 08:35 AM	Heya, Mechanized thingies... Psch. Ladies, the greatest invention since the Khae-stick... The Dancing Khae-Stick of Pleasure! You know, I can think of sooooooo many things to say right here. But if I did, this whole thread would be moved to the Mature Forum. I think I can get away with this though... Two words... Mage Hand. :angelhide
Karsus the Mad 05-25-07, 08:47 AM	Two words... Mage Hand. :angelhide :eek: :smirk:
GothWulf 05-25-07, 09:13 AM	Heya, You know, I can think of sooooooo many things to say right here. But if I did, this whole thread would be moved to the Mature Forum. I think I can get away with this though... Two words... Mage Hand. :angelhide That inspires me to post a new spell... Bigby's Fondling Finger....ok....I cant even finish....its just toooooooo silly....though the draconic version is known as Bahamut's Caressing Claws *giggle* Wulfe
Khaelieth 05-25-07, 09:53 AM	Then you've got Bigby's Grasping Hand. I promise, that MUST have been invented by giants.
GothWulf 05-25-07, 10:04 AM	Or GD....*snickers*
GothicDan 05-25-07, 11:48 AM	I'm a Sun Elf Incantatrix/High Mage/Olin Gisir/Archmage (choose one or more). Research is what we do, baby.
danielmayer 05-25-07, 04:18 PM	ooooooooooooohhhhh... :detect: had not even need for a base class.... GD *is* pure prestige, I say! I've waited long for the Netbook of *real* Archmages' *really* Useful Household Magic (NorA'rUHM, sounds like an elvish word...), finally work-in-progress by GD :D
GothicDan 05-25-07, 10:45 PM	GD was born with 20 innate levels in Wizard.
XHereticX 05-25-07, 10:49 PM	Wow, you don't know how amusing it is watching a bunch of D&D nerds openly talk about sexual content;)
GothicDan 05-25-07, 11:01 PM	Roleplaying and sex, and sexual relationships, go hand in hand to me. Sex, lust, love, the pursuit of these things, and the like, are all hallmarks of what make people, people. And remember we're roleplaying people here, not little sprites mindlessly running around throwing Arcane Explosions. ;)
Zandilar 05-26-07, 02:08 AM	Heya, Wow, you don't know how amusing it is watching a bunch of D&D nerds openly talk about sexual content;) What Dan said. And you don't peruse other parts of this forum, do you? Try looking at the Mature Topics forum in the D&D Styles section some time. (Though you need to be 17+ years old to get access, which means you need to have put your DoB in your profile.)
XHereticX 05-26-07, 10:10 AM	Heya, What Dan said. And you don't peruse other parts of this forum, do you? Try looking at the Mature Topics forum in the D&D Styles section some time. (Though you need to be 17+ years old to get access, which means you need to have put your DoB in your profile.) Oh, I do, but I'm only 15, srry
Stormbrand 05-26-07, 01:12 PM	Heya, Oh, it wouldn't be intentional blindness. Sharess, at least, is a bit of an exhibitionist. ;) However, mortal eyes, looking upon divine beauty... Might be just more than ordinary optic nerves can handle. Unless you were invited to watch, then they might "turn down the brightness" just for you. :D -How soon might we become blinded? :D :embarrass Actually, would not being blinded be the perfect excuse to observe by touch? *no innocent smilie* Imagine the dwarf orgies. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww! No, lets not.:cool:
GothicDan 05-26-07, 01:30 PM	Oh, I do, but I'm only 15, srry ... Is it bad that I already had my first serious boyfriend by then?
GothWulf 05-26-07, 01:40 PM	... Is it bad that I already had my first serious boyfriend by then? Nah...I did too...in fact was working on my second by then...*chuckle* Wulfe
GothicDan 05-26-07, 01:47 PM	Well, I had a not-quite-as-serious one at 14...
ElberethSilverleaf 05-26-07, 01:51 PM	I prefer Corellon of course, but also follow Bast. (none of this Sharess rewrite stuff for me)
GothicDan 05-26-07, 02:32 PM	I uber like Sharess, largely because she's absorbed an Elven aspect. The original Bast wasn't nearly as hedonistic in Egyptian myth as Sharess. She was primary a commoner deity (in the role of serving Re/the nobility and getting a good life), whereas Bes was more of the noble god of true hedonism or decadence in any form. Sharess ads an aspect of more Epicurean hedonism to the original Bast.
ElberethSilverleaf 05-26-07, 03:01 PM	The Sharess aspect does add that aspect, but I still prefer that cat headed implacable foe of evil.
GothicDan 05-26-07, 03:45 PM	You mean Nobanion? ;) I love Nobanion like woah. One of my top favoritest gods... Along with Myrkul, Jergal, Shar, Talos, Mystra, Lathander, Corellon, Labelas, Darahl Firecloak, Sharess, Lurue, Siamorphe, the Red Knight, Oghma..
ElberethSilverleaf 05-26-07, 03:57 PM	Yes but Nobanion is LG, where Bast is CG, more in line with my ethical leanings. Plus he kinda reminds me of Aslan too much. And of course add the god Priapus to my devotions. Like the Romans did, everyone should have Priapic chimes hanging on the 4 corners of their homes for good luck.
GothicDan 05-26-07, 04:04 PM	Phallic territory markers were also used in the classical world. Oh yeah, I forgot Kossuth. He's one of my favs... As to Nobanion... He was largely Aslan. I would consider him a Faerunian projection of Aslan, and would probably stat Aslan as a Lesser or Intermediate multispheric God, son of the Emperor Over the Sea (Greater God).
GothWulf 05-26-07, 09:34 PM	SOMEone has too much time on their hands....*snicker*
GothicDan 05-26-07, 10:00 PM	It's the summer. I work out a little, I study for GRE's a little, I read a little, I help random family members out with things, and I play on the intarnets a lot...