Shadow weave equivelent of spellfire? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Shadow weave equivelent of spellfire? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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XHereticX
06-01-07, 08:53 PM Is there a shadow weave equivelent of spellfire at all?
lavekkia
06-01-07, 09:02 PM Officially not.

Greenwood in his replies on Candlekeep stated that SW users lose access to spellfire and that Shar does not grant an equivalent of spellfire to his followers.

Some homebrew implementations of "Shadow fire" has been created, you should search the boards.

EDIT: you should also note that SW is not optimal for evocation effects (like spellfire). A variant of spellfire that perform some necromantic attack and an enchantment secondary effect would be better.
lightcwu
06-01-07, 11:13 PM I thought spellfire was pure magic, not weave, and that Mystra didn't grant access to it. I know she granted silverfire but I didn't think she had anything to do with spellfire. If I'm wrong please tell me where.
XHereticX
06-01-07, 11:15 PM I thought spellfire was pure magic, not weave, and that Mystra didn't grant access to it. I know she granted silverfire but I didn't think she had anything to do with spellfire. If I'm wrong please tell me where.

silver fire is a lesser version of spellfire that Mystra grants to her chosen. Spellfire is a stronger version that only those who were born with the talent can tap into. They are technically the same thing in different incarnations.
Old Sage
06-01-07, 11:26 PM Ed has said that there is no Shadow Weave version of Spellfire, just renderings that might "look" like Spellfire... but it is not Spellfire.

From Ed -

"Shar CAN grant her followers corrupted versions of the same powers Mystra gives, but darkfire and the like are mere shadows of Mystra’s boons, not equivalents. So, there’s no “dark” version of spellfire or the silver fire, despite the claims of Shar or her clergy to the contrary, just inferior unleashings."
XHereticX
06-01-07, 11:27 PM Ed has said that there is no Shadow Weave version of Spellfire, but just renderings that might "look" like Spellfire but it is not Spellfire.

From Ed -

"Shar CAN grant her followers corrupted versions of the same powers Mystra gives, but darkfire and the like are mere shadows of Mystra’s boons, not equivalents. So, there’s no “dark” version of spellfire or the silver fire, despite the claims of Shar or her clergy to the contrary, just inferior unleashings."

Ahh, so the shadow weave in inherently inferior to the weave correct?
lightcwu
06-04-07, 06:38 AM silver fire is a lesser version of spellfire that Mystra grants to her chosen. Spellfire is a stronger version that only those who were born with the talent can tap into. They are technically the same thing in different incarnations.

Two things: 1st so spellfire is pure weave not pure magic? 2nd which book is this addressed in, WOTC not novel?
lavekkia
06-04-07, 06:50 AM Two things: 1st so spellfire is pure weave not pure magic? 2nd which book is this addressed in, WOTC not novel?

The weave is a conduit, like the Shadow Weave.
Spellfire is refined raw magic, or something along these ways; it depends which sourcebook you look at; a gift directly from Mystra. (actually the real gift is the ability to wield spellfire - a thing that not even FRCS point out adequately).
Shar give no one such gift (the ability to wield directlly raw magic using the SW as a conduit), Greenwood pretty much explained why in his Candlekeep replies.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
XHereticX 06-01-07, 08:53 PM	Is there a shadow weave equivelent of spellfire at all?
lavekkia 06-01-07, 09:02 PM	Officially not. Greenwood in his replies on Candlekeep stated that SW users lose access to spellfire and that Shar does not grant an equivalent of spellfire to his followers. Some homebrew implementations of "Shadow fire" has been created, you should search the boards. EDIT: you should also note that SW is not optimal for evocation effects (like spellfire). A variant of spellfire that perform some necromantic attack and an enchantment secondary effect would be better.
lightcwu 06-01-07, 11:13 PM	I thought spellfire was pure magic, not weave, and that Mystra didn't grant access to it. I know she granted silverfire but I didn't think she had anything to do with spellfire. If I'm wrong please tell me where.
XHereticX 06-01-07, 11:15 PM	I thought spellfire was pure magic, not weave, and that Mystra didn't grant access to it. I know she granted silverfire but I didn't think she had anything to do with spellfire. If I'm wrong please tell me where. silver fire is a lesser version of spellfire that Mystra grants to her chosen. Spellfire is a stronger version that only those who were born with the talent can tap into. They are technically the same thing in different incarnations.
Old Sage 06-01-07, 11:26 PM	Ed has said that there is no Shadow Weave version of Spellfire, just renderings that might "look" like Spellfire... but it is not Spellfire. From Ed - "Shar CAN grant her followers corrupted versions of the same powers Mystra gives, but darkfire and the like are mere shadows of Mystra’s boons, not equivalents. So, there’s no “dark” version of spellfire or the silver fire, despite the claims of Shar or her clergy to the contrary, just inferior unleashings."
XHereticX 06-01-07, 11:27 PM	Ed has said that there is no Shadow Weave version of Spellfire, but just renderings that might "look" like Spellfire but it is not Spellfire. From Ed - "Shar CAN grant her followers corrupted versions of the same powers Mystra gives, but darkfire and the like are mere shadows of Mystra’s boons, not equivalents. So, there’s no “dark” version of spellfire or the silver fire, despite the claims of Shar or her clergy to the contrary, just inferior unleashings." Ahh, so the shadow weave in inherently inferior to the weave correct?
lightcwu 06-04-07, 06:38 AM	silver fire is a lesser version of spellfire that Mystra grants to her chosen. Spellfire is a stronger version that only those who were born with the talent can tap into. They are technically the same thing in different incarnations. Two things: 1st so spellfire is pure weave not pure magic? 2nd which book is this addressed in, WOTC not novel?
lavekkia 06-04-07, 06:50 AM	Two things: 1st so spellfire is pure weave not pure magic? 2nd which book is this addressed in, WOTC not novel? The weave is a conduit, like the Shadow Weave. Spellfire is refined raw magic, or something along these ways; it depends which sourcebook you look at; a gift directly from Mystra. (actually the real gift is the ability to wield spellfire - a thing that not even FRCS point out adequately). Shar give no one such gift (the ability to wield directlly raw magic using the SW as a conduit), Greenwood pretty much explained why in his Candlekeep replies.