Shadow Weave, Shadow Magic, 4e [Archive] - Wizards Community

Shadow Weave, Shadow Magic, 4e [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Telagaunt
10-23-07, 01:03 PM Anyone else think regardless of the SW dying or living in 4e, that Shadow Magic will carry on. SM from Tome of Magic that is (which is seperate and different from Shadow Weave). IMO it's very possible WotC could be implementing the Shadow Magic system from Tome of Magic to New Faerun in a much more Realms-sense than just another generic D&D class. The 3 Shadow Weave magic feats, the Shadow Adept class, can sill be applied to the Shadowcaster Core class without much if any change. The Shade Princes could basically keep their Shadow Adept levels, and incorporate Noctumancer (sp?). Perhaps in 4e, with Mystra and the Weave dying, magic collapsing and drastically changing, the Shadow Weave's system will become the Shadow Magic system from ToM?
Fabius Maximus
10-23-07, 06:54 PM I doubt that they use the ToM version. It is the worst variant system in the book, because of it's clunky rules. They want 4e to be easier, not harder to understand.
Telagaunt
10-23-07, 10:44 PM It's not hard lol It's infact very similar to Warlock (Complete Arcane).
Fabius Maximus
10-24-07, 07:48 AM I beg to differ. The Warlock has only at-will abilities and requires minimal time for book-keeping.

The Shadowcaster has to cope with abilities changing from spells to spell-like to supernatural, all with different uses per day and with different mechanics. Add the overall weakness of the mysteries, and you have system that is very subpar.

Truenaming is weak as well. But at least it uses only skill checks.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Telagaunt 10-23-07, 01:03 PM	Anyone else think regardless of the SW dying or living in 4e, that Shadow Magic will carry on. SM from Tome of Magic that is (which is seperate and different from Shadow Weave). IMO it's very possible WotC could be implementing the Shadow Magic system from Tome of Magic to New Faerun in a much more Realms-sense than just another generic D&D class. The 3 Shadow Weave magic feats, the Shadow Adept class, can sill be applied to the Shadowcaster Core class without much if any change. The Shade Princes could basically keep their Shadow Adept levels, and incorporate Noctumancer (sp?). Perhaps in 4e, with Mystra and the Weave dying, magic collapsing and drastically changing, the Shadow Weave's system will become the Shadow Magic system from ToM?
Fabius Maximus 10-23-07, 06:54 PM	I doubt that they use the ToM version. It is the worst variant system in the book, because of it's clunky rules. They want 4e to be easier, not harder to understand.
Telagaunt 10-23-07, 10:44 PM	It's not hard lol It's infact very similar to Warlock (Complete Arcane).
Fabius Maximus 10-24-07, 07:48 AM	I beg to differ. The Warlock has only at-will abilities and requires minimal time for book-keeping. The Shadowcaster has to cope with abilities changing from spells to spell-like to supernatural, all with different uses per day and with different mechanics. Add the overall weakness of the mysteries, and you have system that is very subpar. Truenaming is weak as well. But at least it uses only skill checks.