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faellamos 07-25-07, 10:34 PM	I vaaaaaguely seem to recall something like this being asked b4, but watevs. My question is how are the various angels created? From what i can see they aren't connected to a specific plane and alignment like the Archons (Celestia, LG), Guardinals (Elysium, NG), and the ones from Arborea, can't remember they're names (CG). Are they created by the gods? Is there any other way for an angel to be created? Do they advance up the angelic ranking system like devils and demons? For that matter, do Archons, Guardinals and the Arborean celestials get promoted to new forms in a similar way? I think FR should do a Celestial equivalent of the Fiendish Codex, though i doubt they will considering that the denizens of the Hells and the Abyss are more popular, and tend to be used more often in games.
ripvanwormer 07-26-07, 01:02 AM	Are they created by the gods? Yes. They're created by the gods from the souls of their favored mortal servants. Sometimes archons are transformed into lawful angels if their divine patrons feel they would be more useful serving them specifically rather than the force of orderly good in general. They don't have a similar connection to guardinals or eladrins - neither of those races serve the gods in any great numbers. Is there any other way for an angel to be created? No. They're servants of the gods, not tied to the alignments and planes like archons, guardinals, and eladrins are. Do they advance up the angelic ranking system like devils and demons? Yes. For that matter, do Archons, Guardinals and the Arborean celestials get promoted to new forms in a similar way? Archons do. Guardinals and eladrins don't officially (according to Warriors of Heaven), but I think they should.
Smilin_Bandit 07-26-07, 02:13 AM	Here's my question. If a god dies and ends up floating around on the Astral Plane, do his angels (Devas) poof out of existence, or do they continue to perform their duties as the god originally intended until the plane swallows them up? ~Smilin_Bandit~ :D
ripvanwormer 07-26-07, 12:58 PM	Depending on how the god dies, it might cannibalize its servants in order to buy itself a little more life. This is most likely if it's dying slowly, for example due to lack of worship. A god's servants have been known to die when their connection to their master was severed (this happened to Dieniacorus and Hananolith, the proxies of the illithid god Maanzecorian), but they've also been known to survive. While Orcus was dead, one of his former proxies, Bleeding Setch, went into hiding, hoping to find a way to restore his patron. Either can happen, really. Angelic servants of a dead god may continue trying to continue their duties as best they can. They may give into hopelessness and depression and die. A few may go find new meaning for their lives, joining a new cause or faction, pledging themselves to a new deity, becoming a mercenary or a hermit-sage on a mountaintop, opening a school or wandering about doing acts of charity.
Ioulaum 07-26-07, 03:58 PM	Here's my question. If a god dies and ends up floating around on the Astral Plane, do his angels (Devas) poof out of existence, or do they continue to perform their duties as the god originally intended until the plane swallows them up? ~Smilin_Bandit~ :D My guess is they offered their service to whoever replace thier god.