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Lord Karsus 07-17-07, 11:29 PM	-While reading Road of the Patriarch, an interesting thought popped into my head, dealing with the White Tree of Damara. Specifically, I'm actually thinking that perhaps the White Tree of Damara is actually the same kind of "plant" that the "Tree of Souls II" is- but that's a story for another day, one that I'll post for review on the Elven Netbook thread. -Anyway, what are the sources for information on the White Tree? I'm guessing that the Bloodstone adventure modules adventure modules are the best places to find the relevant information. Is there anything else that might prove useful?
Zanan 07-18-07, 03:44 AM	White Tree? Never heard of that, but could check the relevant books. White Tree of Gondor / Damara Black Gate / Bloodstone Pass Mount Doom / Castle Perilous Orc hordes under one demonic ruler "Sauron" / Zhengyi :eek: :D
BadCatMan 07-18-07, 06:29 AM	Yo: Bahamut, the Platinum Dragon, gave Gareth the Tree-Gem, and sent the victorious heroes back to Bloodstone. Once planted, the gem grew into a beautiful white tree, a symbol of hope with the power to forever banish Orcus and the other monsters of the Abyss from the Bloodstone Lands. ...the Tree-Gem of Bloodstone works as “demon repellent,” keeping all demons of all sorts from entering the lands under the Throne of Bloodstone
Valgard 07-18-07, 06:53 AM	White Tree? Never heard of that, but could check the relevant books. White Tree of Gondor / Damara Black Gate / Bloodstone Pass Mount Doom / Castle Perilous Orc hordes under one demonic ruler "Sauron" / Zhengyi :eek: :D Remember also the title "Witch King" as the greatest of the Ring Wraiths (I don't know if they are called as this in English, I always heard it in Spanish). Gareth defeated evil and became King, as Aragorn. When I first read all the Damara affair I realized very soon its connection to Tolkien's story.
sleyvas 07-18-07, 05:45 PM	Mount Doom / Castle Perilous ... that one doesn't fit real well However: The One Ring / The Scepter of Orcus
Lord Karsus 07-18-07, 06:07 PM	-Thank you, BCM. The Bloodstone 2e adventure modules really are the only source of information, eh? Just great...
PharaunMizzrym 07-18-07, 09:37 PM	Dragons of Faerun briefly mentions the white tree.
MerrikCale 07-18-07, 10:29 PM	-Thank you, BCM. The Bloodstone 2e adventure modules really are the only source of information, eh? Just great... why is that great? doesn't the Bloodstone Lands accessory have something?
BadCatMan 07-18-07, 11:08 PM	The first quote came from the Bloodstone Lands sourcebook. The second came from part 4 of the adventure series, Throne of Bloodstone. Everything's called Bloodstone, so I guess it gets confusing. :) The seed is a white gem, the Tree-Gem, which seems to have been formed out of the Wand Of Orcus and the blood of Tiamat. Planting this grew it into the White-Tree. As long as the kingdom remains good, the Tree will keep demons out. If they turn evil, the tree withers and lets the demons in.
Lord Karsus 07-18-07, 11:41 PM	why is that great? -Because it's a variety of older edition sources, most of which I don't have...:embarrass
Zanan 07-19-07, 07:38 AM	-Because it's a variety of older edition sources, most of which I don't have...:embarrass There is The Bloodstone Lands accessory, dealing with events as well as places of/in Damara and Vaasa. The modules I tp IV came before that. TBL is packed with info, much like The Shining South, Empires of Sand or The North was. Obviously, everything detailed in there - timewise - is 15 years old. You should get PDF versions of the books easily enough from paizo.com
Lord Karsus 07-19-07, 09:52 AM	You should get PDF versions of the books easily enough from paizo.com -It's not really the purchasing part that I have a problem with. It's really more of the spending money part that I have issues with. -But, with what everyone's contributed, I have a basic overview or, more-or-less, what the White Tree does, and how it got there in the first place.
MarkusTay63 07-20-07, 05:02 PM	"The Tree" is a basic mystical symbol throughout mythologies, cultures, and in D&D, worlds. It all goes back to Yggdrasil, of wich all 'lesser trees' are mystically connected. There was even the "One Tree" from the Thomas Covenant series. All of these various 'mystical trees' connect directly to FR's Tree Cosmology - it's only fitting that the folk of Faerūn would picture their universe this way. I believe there might have been some sort of 'magic tree' in the Moonshaes, but I could be mistaken there. The Great Tree is nothing more then a local reflection of Yggdrasil, the Tree that holds the universe together and upon which all of reality is built. Just my take, but something I have thought upon before. ;)
ClobberinTime 07-26-07, 02:55 PM	I wouldn't spend alot of money downloading the Bloodstone Lands, my guess is that it is as vague a source about the 'White Tree' as Dragons of Faerun is, so just use it however suits your needs.
ElberethSilverleaf 07-26-07, 08:42 PM	For all of you goyim, the tree is actually a metaphor for the kaballah. You see we really are taking over the world!!:plotting:
boards 07-26-07, 10:28 PM	White Tree? Never heard of that, but could check the relevant books. White Tree of Gondor / Damara Black Gate / Bloodstone Pass Mount Doom / Castle Perilous Orc hordes under one demonic ruler "Sauron" / Zhengyi :eek: :D You can also bring in the Terry Brooks novels with the Elcrys/White Tree. Both work to keep demons from the lands, tho the Elcrys has a somewhat wider reach.
Ramenth 07-27-07, 10:28 PM	Don't forget Sagia, the White Oak of Deep Roots from Symphony of Ages.
Lord Karsus 07-28-07, 08:29 PM	For all of you goyim, the tree is actually a metaphor for the kaballah. You see we really are taking over the world!!:plotting: -Great, now they know...:rolleyes:
MarkusTay63 07-29-07, 12:05 AM	I saw Kezef over near the tree... It's not so white anymore... ;)
ElberethSilverleaf 07-29-07, 03:49 AM	-Great, now they know...:rolleyes: LOL