Post/Author/DateTime	Post
doctor_d 01-08-08, 03:48 PM	Is it some form of radiation, a type of rock or both? In the Underdark they refer to it as radiation, but in Storm of the Dead they refer to the stones glowing.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-08-08, 08:56 PM	In the older lore it was some type of naturally occuring "radiation" (I don't mean that in any real world scientific sense, btw). As per Storm of the Dead, it was residue from elven High Magic that was meant to attract drow to the Underdark and keep them there.
Lord Karsus 01-09-08, 12:05 AM	-Everything Rino said is true. To further elaborate... -The term comes from the Elven words Faer and Z'ress, which mean 'Magic' and 'To Hold Dominance/To Remain in Force'. Combined, the term means '‘Magic that Remained/Dominating Magic/Magic that Compelled’. Originally, Faerzress' were a type of naturally recurring magical radiation that existed in the Underdark. However, Storm of the Dead included a retcon that tied Faerzress' to the Descent of the Drow. In the new story, Faerzress' were created by the Elven Selu'Taar who cursed the Drow, as a way to keep them 'stuck' in the Underdark. The High Magic forced the Drow to want to stay near areas of Faerzress'. The old explanation for this was that Faerzress' were areas of power, and could enchant weapons with their natural magical auras (Drowcraft items), and because of this, the Drow jealously guarded them.
MarkusTay63 01-09-08, 04:25 PM	So, that book turned a very cool magical radiation into 'catnip' for Drow? :uh-huh: I must be sure to avoid that novel at all costs... :nonono:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-09-08, 08:37 PM	So, that book turned a very cool magical radiation into 'catnip' for Drow? :uh-huh: Yup.
MarkusTay63 01-09-08, 11:16 PM	Did she win the pool at WotC for 'silliest ret-con', at least? :confused:
VengefulGazeofGod 01-10-08, 06:59 PM	No, the silliest retcon would have to be the idea that my deities are just names that I give human gods. That idea could start a holy war and human god heads will roll and in the aftermath the humans will have no further choice but to worship the elven pantheon. :cool:
Lord Karsus 01-10-08, 07:02 PM	Did she win the pool at WotC for 'silliest ret-con', at least? :confused: -It was in the contending.
ywhtptgtfo 01-14-08, 11:58 PM	Yeah, it's sad that WotC has to resort to disfiguring existing lore just to bring out 'new' materials. Examples of disfigured Realm elements: - Netheril - Drow society/pantheon - Myth Drannor - The Crown Wars - The outer planes So, we have 5 monthsl left before 4ed comes out and destroy what's left of the increasingly lame FR (which has become a revive-the-dead galore).
Vulpes 01-15-08, 12:29 AM	So I'm alone in actually kinda liking the retcon? *slinks away quietly*
Lord Karsus 01-15-08, 12:30 AM	So I'm alone in actually kinda liking the retcon? *slinks away quietly* -Yes. Now, get out of here before I tell Alediran! :P
daimyotx 01-15-08, 01:53 PM	you're not completely alone... for some reason it works for me just fine as Drow Fly-Paper that had some unintended effects (doesn't Elven High Magic always seem to?).
doctor_d 01-23-08, 12:47 AM	Can Faerzress be destroyed?
MarkusTay63 01-23-08, 02:16 AM	I think it can be 'repressed', by spells like Disjunction, or an anti-magic field, but I don't 'think' there's anyway of permanently destroying it.
Lord Karsus 01-23-08, 06:53 AM	Can Faerzress be destroyed? -No, it does not seem that Faerzress' can be destroyed. They're too useful to destroy, anyway.
Khaelieth 01-23-08, 07:02 AM	I've never played Faerzress as drownip, just said that it's that useful that everyone's attracted to it. And didn't it also create the Underdark?
Lord Karsus 01-23-08, 07:05 AM	And didn't it also create the Underdark? -No.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-23-08, 10:04 AM	Although, I think the LP series said it helped carve out the Underdark.:rolleyes:
Lord Karsus 01-23-08, 10:05 AM	Although, I think the LP series said it helped carve out the Underdark.:rolleyes: -I took that as more metaphorical, as it lead to the Drow being introduced into the Underdark, and in turn, the Drow did a lot of colonizing of the wilds down there.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-23-08, 10:06 AM	-I took that as more metaphorical, as it lead to the Drow being introduced into the Underdark, and in turn, the Drow did a lot of colonizing of the wilds down there. You might be right.
18DELTA 01-23-08, 10:57 AM	-I think that the Faerzress was intended to imprison the Drow like the FeyRi were imprisoned in the Nameless Dungeon. Or at least the Elves learned their lesson after the Descent of the Drow. Think about it, what tempted the Sun Elves of that house to become 1/2fiends. Maybe they saw the power that the Dark Elves got. And they they started to lust after said power. The Last Mythal said that they could do High Magic by them selves, and not have to rely on an order of mages. Very Tempting if you ask me.:D -See MarkusTay63 I can be serious, when I want to!!!:P DELTA;)
Khaelieth 01-23-08, 11:13 AM	The Last Mythal said that they could do High Magic by them selves, and not have to rely on an order of mages. Very Tempting if you ask me.:D Which annoys me to no end.
Lord Karsus 01-23-08, 12:30 PM	The Last Mythal said that they could do High Magic by them selves, and not have to rely on an order of mages. Very Tempting if you ask me.:D Which annoys me to no end. -Not all Elven High Magic rituals require a Circle. Rituals of Solitude are High Magic Spells that can be cast by a single Selu'Taar. Rituals of Myriad and Rituals of Compliment require a Circle of Selu'Taar. Certain individuals, such as Queen Amlauril, or Araevin Teshurr, or the wielder of the Ruler's Blade, have the ability to cast Rituals of Myriad and Rituals of Compliment by themselves.
18DELTA 01-23-08, 02:17 PM	-Not all Elven High Magic rituals require a Circle. Rituals of Solitude are High Magic Spells that can be cast by a single Selu'Taar. Rituals of Myriad and Rituals of Compliment require a Circle of Selu'Taar. Certain individuals, such as Queen Amlauril, or Araevin Teshurr, or the wielder of the Ruler's Blade, have the ability to cast Rituals of Myriad and Rituals of Compliment by themselves. -:teach: :emp: :teach: -But there are Rituals that need a Circle to cast, so becoming a 1/2fiend or celestial could prove beneficial to a solitary caster right.:) DELTA:behold:
MarkusTay63 01-23-08, 05:04 PM	-See MarkusTay63 I can be serious, when I want to!!!:P That'll do Delta... That'll do... http://forums.prowrestlingfans.com/images/smilies/pftroest.gif ;) :D
Vulpes 01-23-08, 11:13 PM	Faerzress can fade, such as around Sshamath, so I'm sure one could find a way to destroy it by accelerating this seemingly natural process. Everyone in the Underdark wants it, though, because it's useful, so why bother?
Lord Karsus 01-23-08, 11:51 PM	-:teach: :emp: :teach: -But there are Rituals that need a Circle to cast, so becoming a 1/2fiend or celestial could prove beneficial to a solitary caster right.:) -No exactly. The special ritual that Araevin cast allows him to cast Rituals of Compliment and Myriad by himself. Ordinary Half-Fiends or Half-Celestials can't do that. That'll do Delta... That'll do... http://forums.prowrestlingfans.com/images/smilies/pftroest.gif ;) :D -WTF is that smiley doing!?
doctor_d 01-24-08, 01:48 AM	I should have been a little more clear when I started this thread, and in my last question. When I stated is it possible to destroy Faerzress what I was wondering if as drownip the removal of Faerzress would cause strife among the drow. Also can Faerzress be "mined"? It works as a divination and teleport blocker. It sounds like something useful for people who do not want to be found in the world above.
MarkusTay63 01-24-08, 02:42 AM	I don't know if it would cause strife it were removed, because plenty of Drow operate just fine away from it (as of 3e). I would say 'yes' to the mining of it, but Drow stiil use Faerzress Nodes to 'cook' special drow-only items. Toward the end of 2e, those special items became pseudo-magical in nature, just like the magical items from Netheril. Unlike the Netherese items, though, they do not require being near a mythallar, but rather being near a Faerzress zone to function. So, considering many of the Drow that never leave their cities (which is 99% of them) rely on the radiation, I think any attempts at removing it would be met with VERY stiff resistance. -WTF is that smiley doing!?It does look strange, but it's supposed to be patting the other one's head.
Khaelieth 01-24-08, 07:36 AM	-Not all Elven High Magic rituals require a Circle. Rituals of Solitude are High Magic Spells that can be cast by a single Selu'Taar. Rituals of Myriad and Rituals of Compliment require a Circle of Selu'Taar. Certain individuals, such as Queen Amlauril, or Araevin Teshurr, or the wielder of the Ruler's Blade, have the ability to cast Rituals of Myriad and Rituals of Compliment by themselves. Meant the drow casting it. But whatever they cast, it wasn't a single elf spell.
Aldareth 01-24-08, 07:54 AM	Meant the drow casting it. But whatever they cast, it wasn't a single elf spell. you can explain this allways this way: not the drow cast it but the ancient miyrietar dark elfs that where in the kiira , i read it this way that they taked possesion of qyarlynd and his fellows and castet the spell
Lord Karsus 01-24-08, 08:37 AM	Meant the drow casting it. But whatever they cast, it wasn't a single elf spell. -If you are looking for continuity in the Lady Penitent series, don't- Lisa Smedman throws the rules out the window. Drow, for example, cannot cast Elven High Magic. Elven High Magic isn't written on scrolls. A deity isn't allowed to enter into the Realm of another deity without his/her/its permission. Faerzress' aren't rocks. :nonono:
18DELTA 01-24-08, 11:29 AM	That'll do Delta... That'll do... http://forums.prowrestlingfans.com/images/smilies/pftroest.gif ;) :D -Its kinda Disturbing to me. I felt like I got smilies molested!!!:eek: 18DELTA:rofl:
Lord Karsus 01-24-08, 11:36 AM	I felt like I got smilies molested!!!:eek: -Serves you right, constantly abusing them and all. :P
Khaelieth 01-24-08, 11:39 AM	-If you are looking for continuity in the Lady Penitent series, don't- Lisa Smedman throws the rules out the window. Drow, for example, cannot cast Elven High Magic. Elven High Magic isn't written on scrolls. A deity isn't allowed to enter into the Realm of another deity without his/her/its permission. Faerzress' aren't rocks. :nonono: Exactly. I just thought it was, well... Bleh.
Lord Karsus 01-24-08, 11:46 AM	Exactly. I just thought it was, well... Bleh. -It was, don't worry.
18DELTA 01-24-08, 11:47 AM	-Serves you right, constantly abusing them and all. :P -:ahem: :noway: :yuck: :blush: :uh-huh: :nonono: :bigeyes: :censored: :tantrum: :headexplo :banghead: :hoppingma :twitch: :blink: :shifty: :OMG! :pbbbtt: Like this!!!:P 18DELTA;)
Lord Karsus 01-24-08, 11:52 AM	-Like that. What is that, all of the stages of grief, or whatever? Anger, denial, and so on...
18DELTA 01-25-08, 12:41 AM	-Like that. What is that, all of the stages of grief, or whatever? Anger, denial, and so on... -I dont know, I guess.:confused: 18DELTA:king:
MarkusTay63 01-25-08, 02:45 AM	As far as Realms-continuity goes, I have a new rule - If the author/designer can't be bothered with doing a little research, then I can't be bothered purchasing anything they have written. :smirk:
Lord Karsus 01-25-08, 08:14 AM	If the author/designer can't be bothered with doing a little research, then I can't be bothered purchasing anything they have written. :smirk: -Sounds like a good rule. The thing is, though, by doing so, you are at a lore handicap.
MarkusTay63 01-25-08, 11:47 AM	Not really, I haven't read Archwizards, Last Mythal, or any Lady Penitent, but from being on these boards I know pretty much what I need to know about the events. ;) I think I'll get me some Erevis Cale today, though - I've been putting it off for too long. Just finished City of Splendors, and right now I need something a little 'edgier'.
Lord Karsus 01-25-08, 12:05 PM	Not really, I haven't read Archwizards, Last Mythal, or any Lady Penitent, but from being on these boards I know pretty much what I need to know about the events. ;) -I say the same thing about comic books, but you miss the little subtleties that aren't part of the driving story, but are there none the less. Like, for instance, are you aware of the back and forh between Vala, Galaeron Nimhedu, and Takiri Moonstar in the Return of the Archwizards trilogy, and how that is ultimatley resolved? You miss stuff like that.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-25-08, 01:41 PM	-I say the same thing about comic books, but you miss the little subtleties that aren't part of the driving story, but are there none the less. Like, for instance, are you aware of the back and forh between Vala, Galaeron Nimhedu, and Takiri Moonstar in the Return of the Archwizards trilogy, and how that is ultimatley resolved? You miss stuff like that. Well, some people wouldn't consider that a bad thing.;) Haven't read that series yet, myself, although I've heard pretty mixed opinions about it.
Lord Karsus 01-25-08, 02:34 PM	Well, some people wouldn't consider that a bad thing.;) -Of course it is. Knowledge is power. Less knowledge, logically, is less power.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-25-08, 07:43 PM	-Of course it is. Knowledge is power. Less knowledge, logically, is less power. But time is valuable too, and bad novels can be a waste of time.;)
Lord Karsus 01-26-08, 09:04 AM	But time is valuable too, and bad novels can be a waste of time.;) -Is any novel a bad novel...? :thinks:
MarkusTay63 01-26-08, 03:40 PM	Only if it does bad things to the Realms. ;)
Lord Karsus 01-26-08, 05:55 PM	-As the Askani say, "What is, is." As the more colliqual (is that even the right word to use?) saying goes, "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade". -But, then again, as Steve Tyler of Aerosmith said, "I was cryin' just to get you. Now I'm dyin' to let you [go]"...
Khaelieth 01-26-08, 07:43 PM	-But, then again, as Steve Tyler of Aerosmith said, "I was cryin' just to get you. Now I'm dyin' to let you [go]"... Or as Mötley said You're all I need, make you only mine I love you so I set you free I had to take your life You're all I need, you're all I need And I loved you but you didnt love me Laid out cold Now were both alone But killing you helped me keep you home I guess it was bad Cause love can be sad But we finally make the news Soooooo...
Lord Karsus 01-26-08, 07:44 PM	-I'm sure there's a relevant Chicago quote as well. :) -"Color my world with hope of loving you", perhaps? We want to love 4e Forgotten Realms. Give us a reason to do so!
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 01-26-08, 08:00 PM	-Is any novel a bad novel...? :thinks: If it's not "so bad it's good.";)
GoldDragon 01-28-08, 08:30 AM	.What exactly is Faerzress? Isn't it those red fluffy things on the stupid hats the Shrinners wear? (drumbeat after bad joke) Actually it is sorta like a Weave "feedback" as it was also effected by Mystra's death during the Time of Troubles the way true Psionics in native Torillians were when her essence merged with the land. best proper description would be more like a "Mythallar" but naturally occurring and the Drow learned to make semi and quasi magical items powered by it.
Zireael 01-28-08, 09:13 AM	Faerzress is Underdark radiation. Not Mythal and not Weave.
Lord Karsus 01-28-08, 10:08 AM	Isn't it those red fluffy things on the stupid hats the Shrinners wear? (drumbeat after bad joke) -Yeah, that was pretty bad. I don't get it.