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Calimshan material? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Empirate
02-28-07, 09:39 AM Hey folks,
is there any dedicated material about Calimshan in 3E and after, apart from the bland stuff in FRCS and the not very detailed Lost Empires of Faerun? I was rather disappointed when I (just recently) got Shining South, and Calimshan wasn't in there.
If there's no 3E or after material to be had, what are the most comprehensive sources in 2E, and can they still be obtained?
I'm looking to DM a Calimshan campaign in the not-too-distant future.

Thanks in advance!
Ateth_Istarlin
02-28-07, 10:42 AM There's not much in the way of material for Calimshan in 3E - I think the sourcebook from 1E/2E was called "Empire of the Shining Sands"? (I tend to use the stuff from Al-Quadim (spel?), as the theme is very similar):D
Tergiver
02-28-07, 10:53 AM I agree that the 2nd edition sourcebooks are where to find detail. You can find Calimport (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/2/fr_downloads/tsr9589.zip) as a free download from the WOTC site, but Empires of the Shining Sea (http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=1580&) will cost you $5 for the PDF. Well worth it, IMO - it covers the other cities in Calimshan, as well as the Lake of Steam area.

Shining South has information on Tashalar and Lapalliya, so it's still a good thing to have gotten.

There are also novels that are set in Calimshan - I don't recall which ones other than Night Parade, but I'm sure someone will.

Edited to add: For what it's worth, I run a Tethyr game and I decided that 50% of the Calashite mages were actually sorcerers. Calimshan is where most of the sorcerers in my Realms come from.
Old Sage
02-28-07, 07:42 PM While there hasn't been an official update... Steven Schend has presented the occasional mental meandering regarding possible future events in the region based on what he'd written previously.

His replies are collected together at Candlekeep.

Remember though, these points that Steven does discuss are largely unofficial elaborations, but are good for providing insight into possible future trends.
Empirate
03-01-07, 08:19 AM Thanks alot so far, I will definitely look into the .pdf files available! Thanks also for the hint about Schend's "meanderings". I don't think I'll read any more FR novels though - in my experience they tend to be abysmal.
Ramar Aulinvox
03-02-07, 04:45 PM Shining South has information on Tashalar and Lapalliya, so it's still a good thing to have gotten.

Tashalar and Lapalliya are also covered in more detail in Serpent Kingdoms.

More novels that hit Calimshan include The Halflings Gem, Servant of the Shard, and The Silent Blade from R.A. Salvatore.

The Ilmatar anti-slavery order from Empires of the Shinning Sea gets a minor mention in Champions of Valor; better to just look in Empires.

For people and organizations affiliated with Calimshan:
Updates on The Twisted Rune are in Lords of Darkness. (one of the twisted ruin gets involved in novel Blackstaff)
Iryacula (spelling?) Sharp-fangs and to a lesser extent The Necrosyr Shoon VII get talked about in Dragons of Faerun.
The Knights of the Shield get a little work up in Champions of Ruin.

That's all I can think of right now.
MarkusTay63
03-02-07, 06:58 PM The Ilmatar anti-slavery order from Empires of the Shinning Sea gets a minor mention in Champions of Valor; better to just look in Empires. I have that book, but I don't recall this. What part was it in? :confused:
Ramar Aulinvox
03-02-07, 07:25 PM It's in the back in the roll-call of organizations. I think it is under Ilmater. The group is called the Janesar (spelling?).
Stigger
03-02-07, 07:32 PM Which kind of sums up my dislike of the lore coming out of late... it's very paltry in comparison to the stuff we got in 2e. I'm not sure if this stems from the assumption that most of us have the 2e sources, or is some slickly subtle indicator that the focus is shifting off of the Realms for other pastures in a rather insidious way.... but yeah, I'd agree that Calimport and Empires of the Shining Sea are the best sources by far. There's some information in Lands of Intrigue as well, at least concerning Shoonach, the old imperial capital, and some of the history and lore of the region. Cloak and Dagger also had some fairly good information about some organizations that operate around there, updated a bit in Lords of Darkness and possibly a bit in Champions of Ruin.
MarkusTay63
03-02-07, 07:47 PM Strange, I find no mention of it. That section re-directs me to the section on Ilmater Monastaries, which I will admit I only scanned over. I did read all the group names though, and found NO Janesar.

The other entries are facinating though; I should have read this YEARS ago! (I was more of a collector back then). The curse that the Shoon placed on the Nobles to protect the Ilmatari is very cool, although I'd like to know how he pulled that off in RAW. Also, in one section it says that that was done by Shoon IV, but in another it was done by Shoon V, his daughter. Guess I'll have to wander over to LEoF to find out the real deal.

There's also a teeny tiny mention of our Earth on page 97, I LOVE stuff like that. Ahhh, the wonder of 2e lore.... :cloud9:

EDIT: Nvrmnd, found it. I didn't read far enough into the section you first reccomended.
Tergiver
03-02-07, 09:05 PM The curse that the Shoon placed on the Nobles to protect the Ilmatari is very cool, although I'd like to know how he pulled that off in RAW. Also, in one section it says that that was done by Shoon IV, but in another it was done by Shoon V, his daughter. Guess I'll have to wander over to LEoF to find out the real deal.

If it was Shoon IV (which is what I recall), it could have been an epic spell. Or just a good spy network + teleport + meteor swarm + people talking about his bad reputation.
Stigger
03-03-07, 12:27 AM Thought it was Amahl Shoon, that 'Amahl of the Seven Somethingorothers' who was a very accomplished mage indeed... the one who seized the throne from his insane brother after he admitted to killing their brother and tried to do the same to him... the Qysar who was the tremendous patron of the arts and erected hundreds if not thousands of statues glorifying the empire... wouldn't surprise me if he could pull out epic spells in the slightest.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Empirate 02-28-07, 09:39 AM	Hey folks, is there any dedicated material about Calimshan in 3E and after, apart from the bland stuff in FRCS and the not very detailed Lost Empires of Faerun? I was rather disappointed when I (just recently) got Shining South, and Calimshan wasn't in there. If there's no 3E or after material to be had, what are the most comprehensive sources in 2E, and can they still be obtained? I'm looking to DM a Calimshan campaign in the not-too-distant future. Thanks in advance!
Ateth_Istarlin 02-28-07, 10:42 AM	There's not much in the way of material for Calimshan in 3E - I think the sourcebook from 1E/2E was called "Empire of the Shining Sands"? (I tend to use the stuff from Al-Quadim (spel?), as the theme is very similar):D
Tergiver 02-28-07, 10:53 AM	I agree that the 2nd edition sourcebooks are where to find detail. You can find Calimport (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/2/fr_downloads/tsr9589.zip) as a free download from the WOTC site, but Empires of the Shining Sea (http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=1580&) will cost you $5 for the PDF. Well worth it, IMO - it covers the other cities in Calimshan, as well as the Lake of Steam area. Shining South has information on Tashalar and Lapalliya, so it's still a good thing to have gotten. There are also novels that are set in Calimshan - I don't recall which ones other than Night Parade, but I'm sure someone will. Edited to add: For what it's worth, I run a Tethyr game and I decided that 50% of the Calashite mages were actually sorcerers. Calimshan is where most of the sorcerers in my Realms come from.
Old Sage 02-28-07, 07:42 PM	While there hasn't been an official update... Steven Schend has presented the occasional mental meandering regarding possible future events in the region based on what he'd written previously. His replies are collected together at Candlekeep. Remember though, these points that Steven does discuss are largely unofficial elaborations, but are good for providing insight into possible future trends.
Empirate 03-01-07, 08:19 AM	Thanks alot so far, I will definitely look into the .pdf files available! Thanks also for the hint about Schend's "meanderings". I don't think I'll read any more FR novels though - in my experience they tend to be abysmal.
Ramar Aulinvox 03-02-07, 04:45 PM	Shining South has information on Tashalar and Lapalliya, so it's still a good thing to have gotten. Tashalar and Lapalliya are also covered in more detail in Serpent Kingdoms. More novels that hit Calimshan include The Halflings Gem, Servant of the Shard, and The Silent Blade from R.A. Salvatore. The Ilmatar anti-slavery order from Empires of the Shinning Sea gets a minor mention in Champions of Valor; better to just look in Empires. For people and organizations affiliated with Calimshan: Updates on The Twisted Rune are in Lords of Darkness. (one of the twisted ruin gets involved in novel Blackstaff) Iryacula (spelling?) Sharp-fangs and to a lesser extent The Necrosyr Shoon VII get talked about in Dragons of Faerun. The Knights of the Shield get a little work up in Champions of Ruin. That's all I can think of right now.
MarkusTay63 03-02-07, 06:58 PM	The Ilmatar anti-slavery order from Empires of the Shinning Sea gets a minor mention in Champions of Valor; better to just look in Empires. I have that book, but I don't recall this. What part was it in? :confused:
Ramar Aulinvox 03-02-07, 07:25 PM	It's in the back in the roll-call of organizations. I think it is under Ilmater. The group is called the Janesar (spelling?).
Stigger 03-02-07, 07:32 PM	Which kind of sums up my dislike of the lore coming out of late... it's very paltry in comparison to the stuff we got in 2e. I'm not sure if this stems from the assumption that most of us have the 2e sources, or is some slickly subtle indicator that the focus is shifting off of the Realms for other pastures in a rather insidious way.... but yeah, I'd agree that Calimport and Empires of the Shining Sea are the best sources by far. There's some information in Lands of Intrigue as well, at least concerning Shoonach, the old imperial capital, and some of the history and lore of the region. Cloak and Dagger also had some fairly good information about some organizations that operate around there, updated a bit in Lords of Darkness and possibly a bit in Champions of Ruin.
MarkusTay63 03-02-07, 07:47 PM	Strange, I find no mention of it. That section re-directs me to the section on Ilmater Monastaries, which I will admit I only scanned over. I did read all the group names though, and found NO Janesar. The other entries are facinating though; I should have read this YEARS ago! (I was more of a collector back then). The curse that the Shoon placed on the Nobles to protect the Ilmatari is very cool, although I'd like to know how he pulled that off in RAW. Also, in one section it says that that was done by Shoon IV, but in another it was done by Shoon V, his daughter. Guess I'll have to wander over to LEoF to find out the real deal. There's also a teeny tiny mention of our Earth on page 97, I LOVE stuff like that. Ahhh, the wonder of 2e lore.... :cloud9: EDIT: Nvrmnd, found it. I didn't read far enough into the section you first reccomended.
Tergiver 03-02-07, 09:05 PM	The curse that the Shoon placed on the Nobles to protect the Ilmatari is very cool, although I'd like to know how he pulled that off in RAW. Also, in one section it says that that was done by Shoon IV, but in another it was done by Shoon V, his daughter. Guess I'll have to wander over to LEoF to find out the real deal. If it was Shoon IV (which is what I recall), it could have been an epic spell. Or just a good spy network + teleport + meteor swarm + people talking about his bad reputation.
Stigger 03-03-07, 12:27 AM	Thought it was Amahl Shoon, that 'Amahl of the Seven Somethingorothers' who was a very accomplished mage indeed... the one who seized the throne from his insane brother after he admitted to killing their brother and tried to do the same to him... the Qysar who was the tremendous patron of the arts and erected hundreds if not thousands of statues glorifying the empire... wouldn't surprise me if he could pull out epic spells in the slightest.