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nestorius
11-12-07, 12:21 PM Hi!
I am a DM interested in having his party adventuring in Dun-Tharos. Aside from the information presented in Unapproachable East, I'm wondering about what happened in the novel "Lady of poison" (The priests). Could anybody give me the plot of the novel?
The Rotting Man is killed? There is also something about Soneillon?

Thank you
Bonzai
11-12-07, 01:36 PM As far as I know, the Rotting Man is still alive, though severely weakened. Dun Tharos is still the headquarters for the blight lords. The upper area of the fortress is over grown with enormous rotting trees, and crawling with blightspawn. Underground, it is a catacomb filled with demons, traps, and other nasties.

This was the capital of a civilization based on binding demons, so unless the party can take on a Balor or two, I would urge them to be weary of the place.
nestorius
11-13-07, 04:01 AM Thanks for your answer but are you sure that he is still there?

Page 154 of "The Grand History of the Realms" (year 1373 DR):

"Mirtul 7: The Rotting Man [1371] is driven out of Dun-Tharos at the center of the Rawlinswood Forest by a servitor of Larue the Unicorn Queen."
Aldareth
11-13-07, 04:04 AM he is driven away, but that dont mean that the cleric of lurue stayed to set things right and it is nowhere statted that the nentyarch marched in to tke the land, so we asume that the rotting man still stalks dun tharos
nestorius
11-13-07, 04:16 AM I agree with you, Aldareth.
I was just wandering what happened to him in the novel "Lady of poison" and if Soneillon is somehow involved.
nestorius
11-13-07, 07:09 AM Still... the questions remains... any help??
Aldareth
11-13-07, 07:34 AM The plot :

lurue sensing the need of help sends an avatar /a spark of hope to faeun, talonna and the rotting man captures that spark and inprison it so that the spark of hope vanish with time passing.
Lurue sends her cleric a vision and that cleric starts a quest to find out what that vision means , in the development of the novel that cleric fights his way to dun tharos with his companions ( a fighter from osse, a nentyarch hunter and a deep imaskari wizard ) frees the spark of hope and defeats with its help the rotting man
nestorius
11-13-07, 08:19 AM Thanks, a bit more spoiler please!!
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-13-07, 10:17 AM Soneillon was not involved in the events of that novel (at least, as far as the novel was concerned).
Bonzai
11-14-07, 01:31 PM Ok, a bit more of a Spoiler

The "spark" eventually becomes an avatar of Luru. The Avatar and The Rotting Man had a big throw down in his lair in Dun Tharos, and the Rotting Man was forced to flee. Afterward, the avatar discorperated, and the adventuring party left. Dun Tharos is still deep in the Blightlords territory, though their ranks were severley thinned by the events in the book.
MarkusTay63
11-15-07, 06:31 PM So basically, what you're all saying is that the book really didn't give any feeling of 'closure'.

Don't you just love reading novels that accomplish absolutely nothing? ;)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-15-07, 07:13 PM So basically, what you're all saying is that the book really didn't give any feeling of 'closure'.

Don't you just love reading novels that accomplish absolutely nothing? ;)

*chuckles* It wasn't one of my favorite books, that's for sure. But I found fault with it for reasons other than lack of closure, because I get annoyed when we are given interesting plot hooks and they are "tied up" conveniently in novels.
Aldareth
11-16-07, 02:26 AM So basically, what you're all saying is that the book really didn't give any feeling of 'closure'.

Don't you just love reading novels that accomplish absolutely nothing? ;)

but there is a closure, the mission was free the spark , the spark was liberated = mission completed
aaand we still have the oplot hook of the rotting man , he is still there and the good thing is, nobody knows what power he has now, a splendid opportunity for your PCs to find out, maybe the think they can find power in the ruins of ancient narfell? maybe the think they can cleanse the land in the name of sylvanus? maybe the get just tricked and serve as victims for a ritual that the rotting man who is not weak at all want to perform, or maybe the must save the nentyarch who was on the way to reclaim dun tharos, maybe all of this was just a trap of the rotting man :eek:
MarkusTay63
11-16-07, 02:31 AM but there is a closure, the mission was free the spark , the spark was liberated = mission completedIf I wanted to liberate a spark, I'd keep flicking my Bic.

*chuckles* It wasn't one of my favorite books, that's for sure. But I found fault with it for reasons other than lack of closure, because I get annoyed when we are given interesting plot hooks and they are "tied up" conveniently in novels.We shouldn't complain, in truth. The fact that the very next day the Rotting Man could have moved back in, cleaned up the place, and recruited 'new talent' at least allows us to use the storyline ourselves. Most of the time the author kills off the baddie and leaves us with nuthin'. :rolleyes:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-16-07, 10:21 AM We shouldn't complain, in truth. The fact that the very next day the Rotting Man could have moved back in, cleaned up the place, and recruited 'new talent' at least allows us to use the storyline ourselves. Most of the time the author kills off the baddie and leaves us with nuthin'. :rolleyes:

Exactly (though I blame that on WotC more than specific authors).
MarkusTay63
11-17-07, 05:05 PM You ever wonder what must be going throught here minds when they pull cr@p like that?

"I've got a really 'cool' idea for a storyline... first I'll sell it the customers as a plothook, and then I'll sell it to them again as a novel, rendering their first purchase completely useless."

Twice the money for the half the creativity - you got to say that's one hell of a business plan. :bored:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
nestorius 11-12-07, 12:21 PM	Hi! I am a DM interested in having his party adventuring in Dun-Tharos. Aside from the information presented in Unapproachable East, I'm wondering about what happened in the novel "Lady of poison" (The priests). Could anybody give me the plot of the novel? The Rotting Man is killed? There is also something about Soneillon? Thank you
Bonzai 11-12-07, 01:36 PM	As far as I know, the Rotting Man is still alive, though severely weakened. Dun Tharos is still the headquarters for the blight lords. The upper area of the fortress is over grown with enormous rotting trees, and crawling with blightspawn. Underground, it is a catacomb filled with demons, traps, and other nasties. This was the capital of a civilization based on binding demons, so unless the party can take on a Balor or two, I would urge them to be weary of the place.
nestorius 11-13-07, 04:01 AM	Thanks for your answer but are you sure that he is still there? Page 154 of "The Grand History of the Realms" (year 1373 DR): "Mirtul 7: The Rotting Man [1371] is driven out of Dun-Tharos at the center of the Rawlinswood Forest by a servitor of Larue the Unicorn Queen."
Aldareth 11-13-07, 04:04 AM	he is driven away, but that dont mean that the cleric of lurue stayed to set things right and it is nowhere statted that the nentyarch marched in to tke the land, so we asume that the rotting man still stalks dun tharos
nestorius 11-13-07, 04:16 AM	I agree with you, Aldareth. I was just wandering what happened to him in the novel "Lady of poison" and if Soneillon is somehow involved.
nestorius 11-13-07, 07:09 AM	Still... the questions remains... any help??
Aldareth 11-13-07, 07:34 AM	The plot : lurue sensing the need of help sends an avatar /a spark of hope to faeun, talonna and the rotting man captures that spark and inprison it so that the spark of hope vanish with time passing. Lurue sends her cleric a vision and that cleric starts a quest to find out what that vision means , in the development of the novel that cleric fights his way to dun tharos with his companions ( a fighter from osse, a nentyarch hunter and a deep imaskari wizard ) frees the spark of hope and defeats with its help the rotting man
nestorius 11-13-07, 08:19 AM	Thanks, a bit more spoiler please!!
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-13-07, 10:17 AM	Soneillon was not involved in the events of that novel (at least, as far as the novel was concerned).
Bonzai 11-14-07, 01:31 PM	Ok, a bit more of a Spoiler The "spark" eventually becomes an avatar of Luru. The Avatar and The Rotting Man had a big throw down in his lair in Dun Tharos, and the Rotting Man was forced to flee. Afterward, the avatar discorperated, and the adventuring party left. Dun Tharos is still deep in the Blightlords territory, though their ranks were severley thinned by the events in the book.
MarkusTay63 11-15-07, 06:31 PM	So basically, what you're all saying is that the book really didn't give any feeling of 'closure'. Don't you just love reading novels that accomplish absolutely nothing? ;)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-15-07, 07:13 PM	So basically, what you're all saying is that the book really didn't give any feeling of 'closure'. Don't you just love reading novels that accomplish absolutely nothing? ;) chuckles It wasn't one of my favorite books, that's for sure. But I found fault with it for reasons other than lack of closure, because I get annoyed when we are given interesting plot hooks and they are "tied up" conveniently in novels.
Aldareth 11-16-07, 02:26 AM	So basically, what you're all saying is that the book really didn't give any feeling of 'closure'. Don't you just love reading novels that accomplish absolutely nothing? ;) but there is a closure, the mission was free the spark , the spark was liberated = mission completed aaand we still have the oplot hook of the rotting man , he is still there and the good thing is, nobody knows what power he has now, a splendid opportunity for your PCs to find out, maybe the think they can find power in the ruins of ancient narfell? maybe the think they can cleanse the land in the name of sylvanus? maybe the get just tricked and serve as victims for a ritual that the rotting man who is not weak at all want to perform, or maybe the must save the nentyarch who was on the way to reclaim dun tharos, maybe all of this was just a trap of the rotting man :eek:
MarkusTay63 11-16-07, 02:31 AM	but there is a closure, the mission was free the spark , the spark was liberated = mission completedIf I wanted to liberate a spark, I'd keep flicking my Bic. chuckles It wasn't one of my favorite books, that's for sure. But I found fault with it for reasons other than lack of closure, because I get annoyed when we are given interesting plot hooks and they are "tied up" conveniently in novels.We shouldn't complain, in truth. The fact that the very next day the Rotting Man could have moved back in, cleaned up the place, and recruited 'new talent' at least allows us to use the storyline ourselves. Most of the time the author kills off the baddie and leaves us with nuthin'. :rolleyes:
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-16-07, 10:21 AM	We shouldn't complain, in truth. The fact that the very next day the Rotting Man could have moved back in, cleaned up the place, and recruited 'new talent' at least allows us to use the storyline ourselves. Most of the time the author kills off the baddie and leaves us with nuthin'. :rolleyes: Exactly (though I blame that on WotC more than specific authors).
MarkusTay63 11-17-07, 05:05 PM	You ever wonder what must be going throught here minds when they pull cr@p like that? "I've got a really 'cool' idea for a storyline... first I'll sell it the customers as a plothook, and then I'll sell it to them again as a novel, rendering their first purchase completely useless." Twice the money for the half the creativity - you got to say that's one hell of a business plan. :bored: