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Evermeet and Elistraee [Archive] - Wizards Community

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QuenthelsChampion
03-22-07, 12:14 PM I being an evil DM made a entire Kingdom of Lolth. With a Velsharess(Empiress in drow) incharge with Wendenei(Balor of corruption LEoF) as her lover and royal guards yadda yadda yadda. Well My players just discovered it and told Qilue about it. Since one of my players is a priestess of Elis. Now with the threat of this rather large Lolth Empire (Ilythmore) Qilue being the most prominent and a chosen of Elis and of Mystra wants to go to Evermeet and have a meeting with Evereska and Evermeet to help her confront the new threat.

The question is would Qilue being a drow and with the murder of the king by the drow be able to go to Evermeet or Evereska. I would think not and if she could go it would only be her and no one else. Which would really bite for my players.

QC
Stigger
03-22-07, 12:54 PM Well, she sent an ambassador to Evermeet back in 2e, Karsel'lyn Lylyl-Lytherraias, who was mentioned in the Elves of Evermeet sourcebook. At least I seem to recall that it was Qilue who sent her there on the faith's behalf... was a huge secret and not well known, only the Queen and a couple of others as I recall, but I'm sure Qilue would have access to the right channels and resources to get a emissary there.
Alediran
03-22-07, 02:13 PM QC: the one who killed Zhaor was a Sun Elf traitor, allied with Kymil Nimesin.
Elven Avenger
03-22-07, 03:36 PM QC: the one who killed Zhaor was a Sun Elf traitor, allied with Kymil Nimesin.

Fenian Ni'Tessine is his name.
Lord Karsus
03-22-07, 05:59 PM The question is would Qilue being a drow and with the murder of the king by the drow be able to go to Evermeet or Evereska. I would think not and if she could go it would only be her and no one else. Which would really bite for my players.

QC

-As was mentioned, the Drow did not kill King Zaor, but they did contribute in the conflict with Kymil Nimesin.

-Anyway, of course Qilue would be able to travel to Evermeet. There is nothing that specifically bars Drow from setting foot there, that we know of, asides for tradition. And, as Stigger mentioned, Karsel'lyn Lylyl-Lytherraias has been to Evermeet, and secretly met with Queen Amlauril.

-Qilue openly traveling there might make a little fuss, due to her nature and all, even though she is a champion of good. All she needs is an Alter Self spell though, to change her appearence from a Drow to any other Elven subrace, and everything'd be alright.
Khaelieth
03-22-07, 09:03 PM Fenian Ni'Tessine is his name.

Fenians are not traitors. That was uneccesarily sectarian. And you just angered a drunk Fenian, who was listening to Bob Marley. That is quite a feat. Tiocfaidh ar la!

But I agree with KL, with a bit of secrecy, she'd make the journey, unless someone tipped the more xenophobic elves off, which could be a quest in itself.
Alediran
03-23-07, 10:11 AM But I agree with KL, with a bit of secrecy, she'd make the journey, unless someone tipped the more xenophobic elves off, which could be a quest in itself.

Entering the Queen of Elves...

One word from Amlauril and nobody on Evermeet can touch Qilué without becoming a traitor.
Lord Karsus
03-23-07, 10:31 AM Entering the Queen of Elves...

One word from Amlauril and nobody on Evermeet can touch Qilué without becoming a traitor.

-Eh, yes and no. If, say, an ancient noble house but a "bounty" or whatever on Qilue's head (though, I don't know exactly why), and, you know, hurt Qilue, there really isn't much Amlauril could do. Yes, she is the absolute monarch of Evermeet, and of most Elves in general, but you cannot forget about all of the politics. The actual offender would be punished, yes. Could the Queen Amlauril banish House Durothil from Evermeet, for supporting and sponsoring such an act? In theory, yes, but in actuality, no. Think of the massive backlash, power struggle, and confusion that would cause.
Alediran
03-23-07, 11:37 AM I know, I just said the simple side, it's not necessary to repeat the political situation of Evermeet all the time.

Luckly for us, changing looks isn't something difficult for Qilué, and there are no known wards/mythals that destroy magical guises/polymorphization.
GothicDan
03-23-07, 11:41 AM Oh, Durothil. How I love you. When are YOU going to get a chance at ruling a kingdom/empire directly?
Lord Karsus
03-23-07, 02:04 PM Oh, Durothil. How I love you. When are YOU going to get a chance at ruling a kingdom/empire directly?

-In my Homebrew setting, Vhoori Durothil took a spelljammer out of Realmspace, and settled the one of the ancient predecessors to the current Elven nations of my world.

-Vhoori has always been my favorite Elf.
GothicDan
03-23-07, 02:09 PM I like him quite a bit as well (as well as the original Durothil, too).

In one of my worlds, a fleet of Spelljammer of Tel'Quessir crashed (along with the illithid armada that was chasing them!). Many thousands of years later, the Sun Elves had taken up worship of a archetypal solar deity of rulership (under guise cast by the supreme deities of the crystal sphere, they had forgotten about the Seldarine - but always had nagging hole in their guts...)... And I had their greatest temple actually on an asteroid orbitting dangerously close to the solar system's star.
SATA
03-24-07, 02:56 AM I being an evil DM made a entire Kingdom of Lolth. With a Velsharess(Empiress in drow) incharge with Wendenei(Balor of corruption LEoF) as her lover and royal guards yadda yadda yadda. Well My players just discovered it and told Qilue about it. Since one of my players is a priestess of Elis. Now with the threat of this rather large Lolth Empire (Ilythmore) Qilue being the most prominent and a chosen of Elis and of Mystra wants to go to Evermeet and have a meeting with Evereska and Evermeet to help her confront the new threat.

The question is would Qilue being a drow and with the murder of the king by the drow be able to go to Evermeet or Evereska. I would think not and if she could go it would only be her and no one else. Which would really bite for my players.

QC

She could with the right care and secrecy, but more easily she could send an ambassador like she have done it in the past, but yet a more simple way is to contact any other elf of 'importance' rather the Queen herself and she can do that even in the mainland, or even a non-elf, could it be a designated friend of the Fair Folk, Qilue have many contacts due her status, just think out of the box to not let your PCs left out.

P.S.: I guess this part is covered but I had the urge to mention it anyway, I mean, doesn't matter if they are Drow, a good aligned character, PC or NPC, even an elf, should not take the offensive against an Empire of such nature without 'good' reasons to do so, like previous confrontations and many other reasons, etc. etc. etc.
Stigger
03-24-07, 04:27 AM Or, thinking of it, she could just cast off a sending or three, level 4 cleric spell shouldn't be too tough for her to cast. ;)
MsMarvelDuckie
04-16-07, 10:49 PM True, but I always thought Evermeet had a mythal against drow...
Stigger
04-17-07, 01:20 AM Well, at least one was in the capital back in the Elves of Evermeet sourcebook... and then there was that whole attempted invasion they tried a while back, at least from what I recall hearing about it.
GothicDan
04-17-07, 08:29 AM If I recall correctly, no Drow actually stepped foot on Evermeet during the 'invasion.'
Stigger
04-17-07, 08:36 AM Not having read of it outside of the forums here... how exactly does one invade something without actually stepping foot in the place one is invading?
Alediran
04-17-07, 10:24 AM Not having read of it outside of the forums here... how exactly does one invade something without actually stepping foot in the place one is invading?

Using cannon fodder that CAN enter the area.
Stigger
04-17-07, 04:37 PM Sounds more like a raid than an actual invasion... assault with intent to annoy. :D
Philalexandros
04-17-07, 05:18 PM Meh, the premise of Evermeet's invasion didn't seem that kosher to me, but I don't want this to get misconstrued as a novel critique.

Evermeet, IMHO, has never really gotten a fair shake in terms of what it would be like to invade such a place. When the subject came up among people I gamed in the Realms with, my answer was "You don't know." If the querry came from a PC that had access to pertinent lore or who might have had reason to know even more, I advised them to forget the poor Evermeet material and consider the sort of power that would drive the societies of the Crown Wars.

By comparison, the majority of the material featured in Evermeet: Island of the Elves would be better suited for second-tier communities and such.
Treymordin
04-17-07, 11:49 PM How does the campaign go?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
QuenthelsChampion 03-22-07, 12:14 PM	I being an evil DM made a entire Kingdom of Lolth. With a Velsharess(Empiress in drow) incharge with Wendenei(Balor of corruption LEoF) as her lover and royal guards yadda yadda yadda. Well My players just discovered it and told Qilue about it. Since one of my players is a priestess of Elis. Now with the threat of this rather large Lolth Empire (Ilythmore) Qilue being the most prominent and a chosen of Elis and of Mystra wants to go to Evermeet and have a meeting with Evereska and Evermeet to help her confront the new threat. The question is would Qilue being a drow and with the murder of the king by the drow be able to go to Evermeet or Evereska. I would think not and if she could go it would only be her and no one else. Which would really bite for my players. QC
Stigger 03-22-07, 12:54 PM	Well, she sent an ambassador to Evermeet back in 2e, Karsel'lyn Lylyl-Lytherraias, who was mentioned in the Elves of Evermeet sourcebook. At least I seem to recall that it was Qilue who sent her there on the faith's behalf... was a huge secret and not well known, only the Queen and a couple of others as I recall, but I'm sure Qilue would have access to the right channels and resources to get a emissary there.
Alediran 03-22-07, 02:13 PM	QC: the one who killed Zhaor was a Sun Elf traitor, allied with Kymil Nimesin.
Elven Avenger 03-22-07, 03:36 PM	QC: the one who killed Zhaor was a Sun Elf traitor, allied with Kymil Nimesin. Fenian Ni'Tessine is his name.
Lord Karsus 03-22-07, 05:59 PM	The question is would Qilue being a drow and with the murder of the king by the drow be able to go to Evermeet or Evereska. I would think not and if she could go it would only be her and no one else. Which would really bite for my players. QC -As was mentioned, the Drow did not kill King Zaor, but they did contribute in the conflict with Kymil Nimesin. -Anyway, of course Qilue would be able to travel to Evermeet. There is nothing that specifically bars Drow from setting foot there, that we know of, asides for tradition. And, as Stigger mentioned, Karsel'lyn Lylyl-Lytherraias has been to Evermeet, and secretly met with Queen Amlauril. -Qilue openly traveling there might make a little fuss, due to her nature and all, even though she is a champion of good. All she needs is an Alter Self spell though, to change her appearence from a Drow to any other Elven subrace, and everything'd be alright.
Khaelieth 03-22-07, 09:03 PM	Fenian Ni'Tessine is his name. Fenians are not traitors. That was uneccesarily sectarian. And you just angered a drunk Fenian, who was listening to Bob Marley. That is quite a feat. Tiocfaidh ar la! But I agree with KL, with a bit of secrecy, she'd make the journey, unless someone tipped the more xenophobic elves off, which could be a quest in itself.
Alediran 03-23-07, 10:11 AM	But I agree with KL, with a bit of secrecy, she'd make the journey, unless someone tipped the more xenophobic elves off, which could be a quest in itself. Entering the Queen of Elves... One word from Amlauril and nobody on Evermeet can touch Qilué without becoming a traitor.
Lord Karsus 03-23-07, 10:31 AM	Entering the Queen of Elves... One word from Amlauril and nobody on Evermeet can touch Qilué without becoming a traitor. -Eh, yes and no. If, say, an ancient noble house but a "bounty" or whatever on Qilue's head (though, I don't know exactly why), and, you know, hurt Qilue, there really isn't much Amlauril could do. Yes, she is the absolute monarch of Evermeet, and of most Elves in general, but you cannot forget about all of the politics. The actual offender would be punished, yes. Could the Queen Amlauril banish House Durothil from Evermeet, for supporting and sponsoring such an act? In theory, yes, but in actuality, no. Think of the massive backlash, power struggle, and confusion that would cause.
Alediran 03-23-07, 11:37 AM	I know, I just said the simple side, it's not necessary to repeat the political situation of Evermeet all the time. Luckly for us, changing looks isn't something difficult for Qilué, and there are no known wards/mythals that destroy magical guises/polymorphization.
GothicDan 03-23-07, 11:41 AM	Oh, Durothil. How I love you. When are YOU going to get a chance at ruling a kingdom/empire directly?
Lord Karsus 03-23-07, 02:04 PM	Oh, Durothil. How I love you. When are YOU going to get a chance at ruling a kingdom/empire directly? -In my Homebrew setting, Vhoori Durothil took a spelljammer out of Realmspace, and settled the one of the ancient predecessors to the current Elven nations of my world. -Vhoori has always been my favorite Elf.
GothicDan 03-23-07, 02:09 PM	I like him quite a bit as well (as well as the original Durothil, too). In one of my worlds, a fleet of Spelljammer of Tel'Quessir crashed (along with the illithid armada that was chasing them!). Many thousands of years later, the Sun Elves had taken up worship of a archetypal solar deity of rulership (under guise cast by the supreme deities of the crystal sphere, they had forgotten about the Seldarine - but always had nagging hole in their guts...)... And I had their greatest temple actually on an asteroid orbitting dangerously close to the solar system's star.
SATA 03-24-07, 02:56 AM	I being an evil DM made a entire Kingdom of Lolth. With a Velsharess(Empiress in drow) incharge with Wendenei(Balor of corruption LEoF) as her lover and royal guards yadda yadda yadda. Well My players just discovered it and told Qilue about it. Since one of my players is a priestess of Elis. Now with the threat of this rather large Lolth Empire (Ilythmore) Qilue being the most prominent and a chosen of Elis and of Mystra wants to go to Evermeet and have a meeting with Evereska and Evermeet to help her confront the new threat. The question is would Qilue being a drow and with the murder of the king by the drow be able to go to Evermeet or Evereska. I would think not and if she could go it would only be her and no one else. Which would really bite for my players. QC She could with the right care and secrecy, but more easily she could send an ambassador like she have done it in the past, but yet a more simple way is to contact any other elf of 'importance' rather the Queen herself and she can do that even in the mainland, or even a non-elf, could it be a designated friend of the Fair Folk, Qilue have many contacts due her status, just think out of the box to not let your PCs left out. P.S.: I guess this part is covered but I had the urge to mention it anyway, I mean, doesn't matter if they are Drow, a good aligned character, PC or NPC, even an elf, should not take the offensive against an Empire of such nature without 'good' reasons to do so, like previous confrontations and many other reasons, etc. etc. etc.
Stigger 03-24-07, 04:27 AM	Or, thinking of it, she could just cast off a sending or three, level 4 cleric spell shouldn't be too tough for her to cast. ;)
MsMarvelDuckie 04-16-07, 10:49 PM	True, but I always thought Evermeet had a mythal against drow...
Stigger 04-17-07, 01:20 AM	Well, at least one was in the capital back in the Elves of Evermeet sourcebook... and then there was that whole attempted invasion they tried a while back, at least from what I recall hearing about it.
GothicDan 04-17-07, 08:29 AM	If I recall correctly, no Drow actually stepped foot on Evermeet during the 'invasion.'
Stigger 04-17-07, 08:36 AM	Not having read of it outside of the forums here... how exactly does one invade something without actually stepping foot in the place one is invading?
Alediran 04-17-07, 10:24 AM	Not having read of it outside of the forums here... how exactly does one invade something without actually stepping foot in the place one is invading? Using cannon fodder that CAN enter the area.
Stigger 04-17-07, 04:37 PM	Sounds more like a raid than an actual invasion... assault with intent to annoy. :D
Philalexandros 04-17-07, 05:18 PM	Meh, the premise of Evermeet's invasion didn't seem that kosher to me, but I don't want this to get misconstrued as a novel critique. Evermeet, IMHO, has never really gotten a fair shake in terms of what it would be like to invade such a place. When the subject came up among people I gamed in the Realms with, my answer was "You don't know." If the querry came from a PC that had access to pertinent lore or who might have had reason to know even more, I advised them to forget the poor Evermeet material and consider the sort of power that would drive the societies of the Crown Wars. By comparison, the majority of the material featured in Evermeet: Island of the Elves would be better suited for second-tier communities and such.
Treymordin 04-17-07, 11:49 PM	How does the campaign go?