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Warning 12-04-07, 05:37 PM	Does anyone know of any novels that devote themselves to a God or Godess having their own story as the main character? When I read Paul Kemps new twlight war sereis, I enjoyed Mask personaility and him actually having diolouge. Then having Shar into the mortal realms was also a nice addition. I am more intrested in a novel that invloves dieties directly instead of just "here's some power for my chosen/followers/priest!...now go do my work so I can sit here". Links or reffrences are appreciated, thanks.
Lord Karsus 12-04-07, 07:19 PM	-There are four novels that make up The Clerics series, which focuses, obviously, on Clerics. I havn't read them all, but there's fair amount of divine cameos and all.
GothicDan 12-04-07, 07:40 PM	The Avatar Trilogy, the Trial of Cyric the Mad, and that one other one about Cyric... Also, the recent Drow series... What is it called? Sorry, not a huge FR novel reader.
LazyLoki 12-04-07, 07:42 PM	the other one about cyric is "prince of lies" another suggestion would be "finder's bane", iirc of the harpers series edit: damn, this looks tiny! i need a signature asap!
Lord Karsus 12-04-07, 07:57 PM	Also, the recent Drow series... What is it called? -Either War of the Spider Queen, or the Lady Penitent Trilogy. edit: damn, this looks tiny! i need a signature asap! -Size matters not. They say it's how you use it that matters.
MerrikCale 12-04-07, 09:37 PM	-Size matters not. They say it's how you use it that matters. God I hope thats true
Lord Karsus 12-04-07, 11:26 PM	God I hope thats true -I have this Potion of Enlargement...:incog:
Warning 12-05-07, 04:19 AM	So just Cyric? Do the other Gods think they're too good for a novel?
Reneshat 12-05-07, 04:24 AM	So just Cyric? Do the other Gods think they're too good for a novel? What? Is Cyric not good enough for you? Heck, just ask the 4ed FR designers, Cyric is teh pwnzor, and everyone should want to read about him. Really, I do believe there is a movement to change the name to Cyric's Forgotten Realms officially....
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 12-05-07, 11:52 AM	So just Cyric? Do the other Gods think they're too good for a novel? Don't know, maybe you can ask Rich Baker what their novel appearance contracts for 2008 will be like.
Warning 12-05-07, 02:37 PM	Naw, I want to read about Lathander and a army of Paladins going to mess up Lolth and the Drow in the underdark. I bet Lathander is stronger than Shar also, because he not only has extremist followers like shar, but quantity also. Blasting their way through the top of the cave to have light shown in through the underdark.
LazyLoki 12-05-07, 03:33 PM	ahem... i DID mention "finder's bane", didn't i? see, just what i said, too small :(
LazyLoki 12-05-07, 03:38 PM	i should elaborate... "finder's bane" is about the god of saurials and change (and clerics, and another (dead) god). going into more detail could be considered a spoiler ;) the party even travels to sigil! very nice book imho.
Puritan13 12-05-07, 03:59 PM	I'm thinking Finder might not be present in the 4e realms. His followers numbers are too few, and his portfolio is too narrow.
Stigger 12-05-07, 04:09 PM	Narrow? I always thought he had one of the biggest portfolios around personally... though I think he should be a servitor of Sune in Brightwater really.
Puritan13 12-05-07, 04:14 PM	Narrow in that it impinges on older, more powerful gods portfolios. Example: the Cycle of Life aspect of his portfolio seems to intrude on Lathanders territory. It also seems to be more nature suited than artistic suited. Better for Chauntea Transformation of Art. What exactly is that? And Saurials as part of your portfolio? What are there, like 30 or 40 Saurials total in the realms?
Stigger 12-05-07, 04:23 PM	I always interpreted Transformation of Art as something like the alteration of society and its views via artistry. The proof of the power of that lays in the Rennaisance, and the effects art had on European society, the existance of the 'cult of beauty' (not an actual organization in case you're wondering, but a quiet social movement) throughout most of Europe, and the ripples it sent throughout all of society in almost every direction. Certainly it wasn't solely responsible, but it led the way along with scientific discovery and exploration.
LazyLoki 12-05-07, 04:23 PM	what does 4th ed have to do with this discussion? aside from that, i try to ignore 4ed as best as i can (as will my group for the most part).
Puritan13 12-05-07, 05:10 PM	This discussion is about FR deities. One of the bigger changes coming, is the elimination/lessening of a large portion of the pantheon. Whether or not you and your group will be using 4e, it is a valid point in this discussion. Stigger, I understand your explanation of the "Transformation of Art" aspect of his portfolio. Thats only 1/3 of his portfolio though. It just seems to me, that in a pond filled with big fish, Finder is the smallest big fish. Not that I dislike the character. He was very interestingly characterized IIRC. His arrogance and pride is something I instill in quite a few of my characters. Especially if they have above average ability scores. Playing the arrogant, prideful character who comes to understand he isn't the best around is one of the more entertaining character concepts I've used.
LazyLoki 12-05-07, 05:20 PM	This discussion is about FR deities. One of the bigger changes coming, is the elimination/lessening of a large portion of the pantheon. Whether or not you and your group will be using 4e, it is a valid point in this discussion. sad, but true... but the op just asked for books featuring gods as main characters. these same books will still exist after 4th ed has come, and there will be more, featuring other gods. i just wanted to express that there's no need to discuss 4th ed in yet another thread. i don't want to flame, and i tend to veer away from the core of discussions myself quite a few times, but... you know what i want to say i guess :)
Puritan13 12-05-07, 06:32 PM	I didn't feel flamed by your post at all. Sometimes threads stray a bit from their initial intent. More on topic: Read the Avatar Trilogy by Richard Awlinson if you want to read about the deities of the realms. You'll see just how petty some can be, and how selfless and giving others are. You'll also see two, very different characters turned into deities.
MerrikCale 12-05-07, 09:22 PM	-I have this Potion of Enlargement...:incog: you mean viagra?
HralorpAxpain 12-05-07, 10:48 PM	I didn't feel flamed by your post at all. Sometimes threads stray a bit from their initial intent. More on topic: Read the Avatar Trilogy by Richard Awlinson if you want to read about the deities of the realms. You'll see just how petty some can be, and how selfless and giving others are. You'll also see two, very different characters turned into deities. Of course, Richard Awlinson is not a real author. Shadowdale (book 1) and Tantras (book 2) are written by Scott Ciencin, whilst Waterdeep (book 3) and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad (book 5) are by Troy Denning. Then of course, you have Prince of Lies (book 4) that is written by James Lowder. I have the first four (reprinted copies) and am currently seeking a cheaper copy of Crucible...
Puritan13 12-06-07, 12:38 AM	Of course, Richard Awlinson is not a real author. Shadowdale (book 1) and Tantras (book 2) are written by Scott Ciencin, whilst Waterdeep (book 3) and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad (book 5) are by Troy Denning. Then of course, you have Prince of Lies (book 4) that is written by James Lowder. I have the first four (reprinted copies) and am currently seeking a cheaper copy of Crucible...I was aware of the Awlinson/All-in-one word play. Was just trying to make it easier for him to find the books, as bookstores list titles in alphabetical order by authors name. Unless they started printing the books with the authors' real name on the cover since I read them last.
HralorpAxpain 12-06-07, 01:23 AM	Unless they started printing the books with the authors' real name on the cover since I read them last. WotC reprinted them in 2001, I believe, with the proper authors' names cited on the cover and there is also new cover art. I have the first four of these reprints. I think you can still get the Richard Awlinson copies though via Amazon.
The_Shaman 12-06-07, 08:06 AM	you mean viagra? Alchemists and their poor imitations... Some bloke somewhere says sufficiently advanced science is virtually undistinguishable from magic, and they all rush forward. Has anyone bothered to ask an archmage what he thinks on the topic?
Lord Karsus 12-06-07, 08:06 AM	you mean viagra? -Whatever you want to call it. For you, I'll make you a good deal...:incog: