Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Lord_Steve 05-20-07, 05:12 PM	Anyone know of any such celestials? They exist? What are they called? Their duty?
Shemeska the Marauder 05-21-07, 01:46 AM	Any of the Aasimon (Angels) might have gray colored skin depending on the whim of their deific patron. Since they're not embodiments of an alignment, but extensions of a specific god's will, their fine characteristics will vary according to the desires of the god who created them or whom they currently serve. From time to time, Waukeen has been served by rilmani, and plumach rilmani have dull gray skin, while ferrumach rilmani can have a darker grayish or gunmetal toned skin. They're not celestials however, technically speaking since they embody N. Felthis Ap Jerran the 'Philosopher King' of Elysium's gatetown of Ecstasy appears in several forms, one of them being an ashen skinned cervidal guardinal. However he's a bit of a strange case, being a risen fiend rather than starting out as a celestial.
Lord_Steve 05-21-07, 02:22 PM	Risen fiend!?!?!?!? How in all the Hells!?!?!?
Shemeska the Marauder 05-21-07, 03:35 PM	Risen fiend!?!?!?!? How in all the Hells!?!?!? If celestials can fall, it stands to reason that the reverse can happen as well. It's incredibly rare of course, and the fiends tend to butcher any of their kind that deviate in any way from their original alignment: baatezu will execute any of their ranks who slip away from either law or evil, the yugoloths have a racial fixation on the "purity" of neutral evil and will seek to obliterate any of their kind who show any obvious or possible defect in alignment, etc. But it's possible nonetheless. Which makes Ap Jerran even more unique, being a risen 'loth. All baatezu and most tanar'ri start out as mortal petitioners, so it's possible that a mortal soul that becomes one of them might plausibly retain a faint spark of something other than their particular flavor of evil, and later, even eons later they might become aware of it and focus on it. That spark might cause them to be capable, or more capable than their fellows of willingly shifting alignment, though outside influences may be involved more often than not. As for the 'loths since they don't evolve from mortal souls, but from the raw stuff of their plane itself, I'd suggest that since they're drawn up from a literal melting pot of raw alignment and digested soulstuff, that on utterly rare occasions they might inherit a spark or flaw of something else, which later on might spark of crisis of self and lead to a shift in alignment. Of course, Felthis Ap Jerran isn't the first risen fiend in D&D's history, though I believe that he's the first (confirmed) risen yugoloth.
Lord_Steve 05-21-07, 08:53 PM	Now that is interesting.....and quite educational....I'll have to remember that, thanks.
Lord Karsus 05-22-07, 12:00 AM	-Shemeska is good at educating the unenlightened.
Lord_Steve 05-22-07, 03:25 PM	I have no arguement for that.
primemover003 05-25-07, 09:01 PM	Aren't Quesar greyish???