Halruaan training of Wizards [Archive] - Wizards Community

Halruaan training of Wizards [Archive] - Wizards Community

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cloudcobra5581
09-08-07, 11:22 PM Reading about the region of Halruaa in both the 2nd ed. Shining South and the 3.5 edition of Shining South has left me pondering about their ways of education concerning the teaching of wizards. It says they receive public education until they are 13 years of age, and tested at the age of five whether they have a gift to learn magic or not, but how does it continue from there? Is their society based on an Apprentice-Mentor system, like the Conjurer Eledric Omanrys of Halagard taking in students? Is the clergy of Azuth helping out, as there are temples in the Nath valley that are specialized to each school of magic? Or is there actually a grand College of Wizardry?
GothicDan
09-08-07, 11:24 PM I would say yes to all of the above. Just like in real life Amerca, we have public education, public colleges, private colleges, tutors, home schooling, etc.

The point I'd stress is: magical education is freely AVAILABLE, in one form or another, for all of those who display the talent.

Personally, I'd plunk down a few large, prestigious magical academies in the major cities and regions, and then have sprinklings of the master-apprentices all over. You could make it a big political controversy, actually, among the Elders.
cloudcobra5581
09-09-07, 12:11 AM I figured as much. I was just having a hard time trying to figure out whether to choose the Collegiate Wizard feat or the Apprentice Feat. Still, you got a point when it comes to political controversy. In a country where magic is king, and a wizard can call in favors from those he trained, any Halruaan Elder that actually favors taking on apprentices has more allies in his political schemes. It would be great though to have a regional update, because there are no Guilds or specific schools listed like in The Silver Marches or Waterdeep: City of Splendors.
GothicDan
09-09-07, 12:13 AM Yeah. Even with the new Shining South, I was still left wanting for more. That's largely because I'm a Wizard-o-phile like woah.
Karsus the Mad
09-14-07, 10:14 AM Probably very much like Netheril was. A mixture of private apprenticeships and institutions. If you were wealthy, you could pay for an apprenticeship, but if not there's always free institutions.
dragonheart
09-14-07, 02:01 PM And once you start training/adventuring/etc if you can develop a reputation it may be easier to get apprenticeships with better known greater mages - nothing succeeds like success :D :P
Gabeldom
09-17-07, 12:55 AM Have you read the trilogy of books from Halruaa? They are well worth the read. I wish Wotc would do more with halrua as Shining South left a lot out. I see Halrua politics like this. There would be magical acadamies throughout the nation. 1 academy per city or town (kind of like our collegiate system) These academy's trained anyone that couldn't afford the mentor fee for apprenticeship. They would be ran by wealthy mages that could afford the cost of an academy and wanted the political clout that would come with training so many future wizards. They would also pick the best of the students from the academy as their personal apprentices. This would make the apprentice/mentor feat from DMG2 a huge political move for a character.
I even see the acadamies meeting at different points in the year holding mage tournaments. If you have ever seen a collegiate fencing tournament, imagine that but with wands or illusions or summoned creatures. At a certain point Halruaan Elders would no longer compete at purely personal power they would compete on strength and ability of the their apprenticeses. People would cheer their home town Dueling teams much like little league or College Teams. they would probably have Golemwars similar to our robotwars or constructwars. Start thinking about where a society could go with the Halruan abilities and it's checks and balance system and it gets very interesting very quick. I am submitting an article template on it to dragon.

Gabeldom
The_Shaman
09-19-07, 02:59 PM Hey, that could be interesting. Just like, say, the student leagues in most sports, or the rowing team rivalries, only with magic. It's probably the national sport (the state sport, actually, as Haalrua isn't exactly a nation).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
cloudcobra5581 09-08-07, 11:22 PM	Reading about the region of Halruaa in both the 2nd ed. Shining South and the 3.5 edition of Shining South has left me pondering about their ways of education concerning the teaching of wizards. It says they receive public education until they are 13 years of age, and tested at the age of five whether they have a gift to learn magic or not, but how does it continue from there? Is their society based on an Apprentice-Mentor system, like the Conjurer Eledric Omanrys of Halagard taking in students? Is the clergy of Azuth helping out, as there are temples in the Nath valley that are specialized to each school of magic? Or is there actually a grand College of Wizardry?
GothicDan 09-08-07, 11:24 PM	I would say yes to all of the above. Just like in real life Amerca, we have public education, public colleges, private colleges, tutors, home schooling, etc. The point I'd stress is: magical education is freely AVAILABLE, in one form or another, for all of those who display the talent. Personally, I'd plunk down a few large, prestigious magical academies in the major cities and regions, and then have sprinklings of the master-apprentices all over. You could make it a big political controversy, actually, among the Elders.
cloudcobra5581 09-09-07, 12:11 AM	I figured as much. I was just having a hard time trying to figure out whether to choose the Collegiate Wizard feat or the Apprentice Feat. Still, you got a point when it comes to political controversy. In a country where magic is king, and a wizard can call in favors from those he trained, any Halruaan Elder that actually favors taking on apprentices has more allies in his political schemes. It would be great though to have a regional update, because there are no Guilds or specific schools listed like in The Silver Marches or Waterdeep: City of Splendors.
GothicDan 09-09-07, 12:13 AM	Yeah. Even with the new Shining South, I was still left wanting for more. That's largely because I'm a Wizard-o-phile like woah.
Karsus the Mad 09-14-07, 10:14 AM	Probably very much like Netheril was. A mixture of private apprenticeships and institutions. If you were wealthy, you could pay for an apprenticeship, but if not there's always free institutions.
dragonheart 09-14-07, 02:01 PM	And once you start training/adventuring/etc if you can develop a reputation it may be easier to get apprenticeships with better known greater mages - nothing succeeds like success :D :P
Gabeldom 09-17-07, 12:55 AM	Have you read the trilogy of books from Halruaa? They are well worth the read. I wish Wotc would do more with halrua as Shining South left a lot out. I see Halrua politics like this. There would be magical acadamies throughout the nation. 1 academy per city or town (kind of like our collegiate system) These academy's trained anyone that couldn't afford the mentor fee for apprenticeship. They would be ran by wealthy mages that could afford the cost of an academy and wanted the political clout that would come with training so many future wizards. They would also pick the best of the students from the academy as their personal apprentices. This would make the apprentice/mentor feat from DMG2 a huge political move for a character. I even see the acadamies meeting at different points in the year holding mage tournaments. If you have ever seen a collegiate fencing tournament, imagine that but with wands or illusions or summoned creatures. At a certain point Halruaan Elders would no longer compete at purely personal power they would compete on strength and ability of the their apprenticeses. People would cheer their home town Dueling teams much like little league or College Teams. they would probably have Golemwars similar to our robotwars or constructwars. Start thinking about where a society could go with the Halruan abilities and it's checks and balance system and it gets very interesting very quick. I am submitting an article template on it to dragon. Gabeldom
The_Shaman 09-19-07, 02:59 PM	Hey, that could be interesting. Just like, say, the student leagues in most sports, or the rowing team rivalries, only with magic. It's probably the national sport (the state sport, actually, as Haalrua isn't exactly a nation).