Iakhovas what is he? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Iakhovas what is he? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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creyzi4zb12
10-25-07, 03:18 AM What is Iakhovas from the fact that he oncetraveled with gods?
I've always been curious about the fellow. How is it possible that he is so old,older than any elf.
Old Sage
10-25-07, 03:39 AM See here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=14144599&postcount=3).
creyzi4zb12
10-25-07, 08:00 AM I never thought were-sharks were that rare? How is it possible that he is able to live for thousands of years?
Puritan13
10-25-07, 08:39 AM One of the current, and coming to be more accepted theories about sharks is that they don't die of old age.

Can't remember where I read that one...
MarkusTay63
10-25-07, 02:54 PM And they continue to grow, as well. ;)

That means there are some monstrously HUGE sharks down in those sea trenches. :eek:

Perhaps he was related to this guy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mneDhOtVEQw) :D
Puritan13
10-25-07, 03:10 PM Megalodon!!!
Thinblade
10-25-07, 03:24 PM It was stated in the books (Eldath says it) that he's a megalodon. That's a real, prehistoric shark that dwarfs any shark of today (as well as several whale species). We don't really know what it looked like, since the only part of a shark that fossilizes in the jaw. Still, the jaws are frickin' enormous. Size estimates for the huge fish are in the 50 foot range.

Here's the wikipedia entry on megalodons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
10-25-07, 06:08 PM Was it bigger than the whale shark? They're pretty huge.
18DELTA
10-25-07, 06:18 PM :dancin:jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws:dancin:

:P
Puritan13
10-25-07, 06:23 PM The wiki entry states their size as being about 52.5 feet long and having a body mass of about 48 tons.

The largest whale shark ever documented was 41.5 feet long. Though stories do exist of much larger whale sharks, up to one with a 75 foot specimen.
Borris
10-25-07, 06:40 PM You can find the stats for the Megalodon in the Monster Manual II (and updated for 3.5 in the Update Booklet). Though it's gargantuan, and thus breaks the standard rules for a lycanthrope, I guess it'd still make sense to have Iakhovas as a were-megalodon with dozen levels of sorcerer (though I don't see how the Threat from the Sea heroes could have beaten such a behemoth with over 300 hp).
MarkusTay63
10-25-07, 06:45 PM Because...

the Hero turned out to be a Chosen of Lathander. :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure he had a cape and a Big 'L' on his chest as well. :P

Or was that an 'L' on his forehead? :cool:
ExtinctionBeta
10-25-07, 07:02 PM You guys are speaking of a FR book or real life? I wouldn't mind reasarching it if it's a real fossil. Then again....there are reports of the Lockniss monster which we know isn't actually there.
meto30
10-25-07, 07:19 PM I'm pretty sure he had a cape and a Big 'L' on his chest as well. :P

Or was that an 'L' on his forehead? :cool:

:rofl:
Puritan13
10-25-07, 07:34 PM You guys are speaking of a FR book or real life? I wouldn't mind reasarching it if it's a real fossil. Then again....there are reports of the Lockniss monster which we know isn't actually there.The megalodon was a real shark.
Thinblade
10-25-07, 07:36 PM Why does everything have to be a Chosen? Jherek was a paladin. In 3e terms (and the books were written under the 2e system), he'd probably be a UA Prestige Paladin (one of the better written versions of that class).

And, like all good mythical beasts, Iakhovas had one weak point: his eye. Jherek didn't out-fight Iakhovas in a long, drawn-out battle (which would be the equivalent of defeating him straight out), he stabbed the magical eye and blew up his head. In game terms, all you really need would be a called shot.

And yes, the megalodon was a real creature. I've seen shows on Discovery Channel about it. Knock yourself out, if you wish.
Old Sage
10-25-07, 07:43 PM the Hero turned out to be a Chosen of Lathander. :rolleyes:Remember, that wasn't actually "a Chosen" of Lathander. Rather, just a character chosen by Lathander. There is no official Chosen for Lathander.
GothicDan
10-25-07, 10:29 PM I was once (read: for about 10 years) a big paleontology buff. I find the non-dinosaurs to be the most terrifying - things like megalodon, quetzalcoatlus, and teratornis.
creyzi4zb12
10-26-07, 03:52 AM You guys are speaking of a FR book or real life? I wouldn't mind reasarching it if it's a real fossil. Then again....there are reports of the Lockniss monster which we know isn't actually there.

I once watched in Discovery channel about Megalodons. they were real. But I don't think there are any megalodons right now.
MarkusTay63
10-26-07, 09:31 AM That we are aware of....

Remember, we've NEVER actually seena LIVING giant squid, but we know they exist.

Remember, that wasn't actually "a Chosen" of Lathander. Rather, just a character chosen by Lathander. There is no official Chosen for Lathander.Ahhhhh...

Its been awhile since I read that series. So there is a big distinction between 'by' and 'of', when discussing these kinds of things in Realms terms.

I still think only Mystra should have 'em, though. ;)

And of course there's a Loch Ness monster........... :D
BadCatMan
10-26-07, 09:38 AM Oh? Who's Nessie a Chosen of? :D

We drove past Loch Ness once. I looked and looked, but sadly, I never saw the monster. :(
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
10-26-07, 10:09 AM That we are aware of....

Remember, we've NEVER actually seena LIVING giant squid, but we know they exist.

Actually, did we recently get pictures of them?
Alediran
10-26-07, 10:14 AM I've saw one, not living, but in a museum in Puerto Madryn (only the head was two meters long)
Dimensional_Drifter
10-26-07, 11:53 AM Although this has been answered already, I must say something.
Eldath said in the book that he was a megalodon and perhaps the first of his kind. Also the book stated that Iakhovas in this form (his true form I would guess) was 90 foot in length. Although I doubt any shark has ever that large would have been a megalodon as they were much smaller. But we ain't talking about Earth here, and as a fantasy world, who could say what species of shark he'd be in that form. I figure Iakhovas was an ancient evil of sorts. Megalodon didn't exist for that long in Earth's history and were probably specialized predators. They only found fossils of it in places what were shallow seas at one time. However, as for Iakhovas, I wish the author didn't write him as megalodon in the end. And Jherek could have never killed such a being were it not for Lathander.
MarkusTay63
10-26-07, 12:13 PM Actually, did we recently get pictures of them?Had to check YouTube - it appears you are correct, but that was just a baby. :D

I'd like to see one of the true 'Giants' - the ones that lives in the ocean depths that are reportedly 20m in length! :eek:
MerrikCale
10-27-07, 09:50 AM I thought Iakhovas was the author of Grand History of the Realms. How could a giant shark write a book? You people are so silly
MarkusTay63
10-27-07, 01:04 PM Technically, he is only the author of parts of the book (certain vingettes) - the rest was just copied from previous sourcebooks or written by other authors (more vingettes). In fact, except for the vingettes, MAPS, a couple of new entries, and the coverart, ALL of that tome appeared elsewhere first. ;)

Not belittling what he did - the original compilation was a monumental amount of work and he deserves his accolades.

It must be VERY hard to write with a pen in your fin. ;)

Editted becasue I forgot something VERY important. :embarrass
creyzi4zb12
10-27-07, 01:18 PM I thought Iakhovas was the author of Grand History of the Realms. How could a giant shark write a book? You people are so silly

He can change his form to human..or anything he wants to.
Iakhovas
10-27-07, 03:35 PM In fact, except for the vingettes, a couple of new entries, and the coverart, ALL of that tome appeared elsewhere first. ;) Mark, you forget the shiny new maps! :bigeyes:
MarkusTay63
10-28-07, 10:35 AM Oh dang! :embarrass

How the heck did I forget those? :confused:

True, the maps, the Vingettes, and the new entries make the tome indispensible.

Sorry for that, I wasn't casting disparaging remarks, just giving credit to the MANY authors of the original timeline entries. ;)
Stigger
10-30-07, 08:40 AM Considering that we can't even reach the bottom of something so close as the Monterrey Canyon, much less things like the Marianas Trench, I don't really think its all that wise to discount anything being possible in relation to the sea, as we have only barely scratched the surface of it, so to speak. Just think of the Coelecanth afterall... I don't think a living megalodon is that big of a stretch really considering how shallow our explorations have really been in terms of the actual depth of the sea.
Alediran
10-30-07, 09:57 AM Not only that, but the ELEs (earth's RSEs :P) haven't shaken the oceans that much. Megalodons where still alive when humanity gave it's first steps.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
creyzi4zb12 10-25-07, 03:18 AM	What is Iakhovas from the fact that he oncetraveled with gods? I've always been curious about the fellow. How is it possible that he is so old,older than any elf.
Old Sage 10-25-07, 03:39 AM	See here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=14144599&postcount=3).
creyzi4zb12 10-25-07, 08:00 AM	I never thought were-sharks were that rare? How is it possible that he is able to live for thousands of years?
Puritan13 10-25-07, 08:39 AM	One of the current, and coming to be more accepted theories about sharks is that they don't die of old age. Can't remember where I read that one...
MarkusTay63 10-25-07, 02:54 PM	And they continue to grow, as well. ;) That means there are some monstrously HUGE sharks down in those sea trenches. :eek: Perhaps he was related to this guy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mneDhOtVEQw) :D
Puritan13 10-25-07, 03:10 PM	Megalodon!!!
Thinblade 10-25-07, 03:24 PM	It was stated in the books (Eldath says it) that he's a megalodon. That's a real, prehistoric shark that dwarfs any shark of today (as well as several whale species). We don't really know what it looked like, since the only part of a shark that fossilizes in the jaw. Still, the jaws are frickin' enormous. Size estimates for the huge fish are in the 50 foot range. Here's the wikipedia entry on megalodons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalodon
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 10-25-07, 06:08 PM	Was it bigger than the whale shark? They're pretty huge.
18DELTA 10-25-07, 06:18 PM	:dancin:jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws jaws:dancin: :P
Puritan13 10-25-07, 06:23 PM	The wiki entry states their size as being about 52.5 feet long and having a body mass of about 48 tons. The largest whale shark ever documented was 41.5 feet long. Though stories do exist of much larger whale sharks, up to one with a 75 foot specimen.
Borris 10-25-07, 06:40 PM	You can find the stats for the Megalodon in the Monster Manual II (and updated for 3.5 in the Update Booklet). Though it's gargantuan, and thus breaks the standard rules for a lycanthrope, I guess it'd still make sense to have Iakhovas as a were-megalodon with dozen levels of sorcerer (though I don't see how the Threat from the Sea heroes could have beaten such a behemoth with over 300 hp).
MarkusTay63 10-25-07, 06:45 PM	Because... the Hero turned out to be a Chosen of Lathander. :rolleyes: I'm pretty sure he had a cape and a Big 'L' on his chest as well. :P Or was that an 'L' on his forehead? :cool:
ExtinctionBeta 10-25-07, 07:02 PM	You guys are speaking of a FR book or real life? I wouldn't mind reasarching it if it's a real fossil. Then again....there are reports of the Lockniss monster which we know isn't actually there.
meto30 10-25-07, 07:19 PM	I'm pretty sure he had a cape and a Big 'L' on his chest as well. :P Or was that an 'L' on his forehead? :cool: :rofl:
Puritan13 10-25-07, 07:34 PM	You guys are speaking of a FR book or real life? I wouldn't mind reasarching it if it's a real fossil. Then again....there are reports of the Lockniss monster which we know isn't actually there.The megalodon was a real shark.
Thinblade 10-25-07, 07:36 PM	Why does everything have to be a Chosen? Jherek was a paladin. In 3e terms (and the books were written under the 2e system), he'd probably be a UA Prestige Paladin (one of the better written versions of that class). And, like all good mythical beasts, Iakhovas had one weak point: his eye. Jherek didn't out-fight Iakhovas in a long, drawn-out battle (which would be the equivalent of defeating him straight out), he stabbed the magical eye and blew up his head. In game terms, all you really need would be a called shot. And yes, the megalodon was a real creature. I've seen shows on Discovery Channel about it. Knock yourself out, if you wish.
Old Sage 10-25-07, 07:43 PM	the Hero turned out to be a Chosen of Lathander. :rolleyes:Remember, that wasn't actually "a Chosen" of Lathander. Rather, just a character chosen by Lathander. There is no official Chosen for Lathander.
GothicDan 10-25-07, 10:29 PM	I was once (read: for about 10 years) a big paleontology buff. I find the non-dinosaurs to be the most terrifying - things like megalodon, quetzalcoatlus, and teratornis.
creyzi4zb12 10-26-07, 03:52 AM	You guys are speaking of a FR book or real life? I wouldn't mind reasarching it if it's a real fossil. Then again....there are reports of the Lockniss monster which we know isn't actually there. I once watched in Discovery channel about Megalodons. they were real. But I don't think there are any megalodons right now.
MarkusTay63 10-26-07, 09:31 AM	That we are aware of.... Remember, we've NEVER actually seena LIVING giant squid, but we know they exist. Remember, that wasn't actually "a Chosen" of Lathander. Rather, just a character chosen by Lathander. There is no official Chosen for Lathander.Ahhhhh... Its been awhile since I read that series. So there is a big distinction between 'by' and 'of', when discussing these kinds of things in Realms terms. I still think only Mystra should have 'em, though. ;) And of course there's a Loch Ness monster........... :D
BadCatMan 10-26-07, 09:38 AM	Oh? Who's Nessie a Chosen of? :D We drove past Loch Ness once. I looked and looked, but sadly, I never saw the monster. :(
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 10-26-07, 10:09 AM	That we are aware of.... Remember, we've NEVER actually seena LIVING giant squid, but we know they exist. Actually, did we recently get pictures of them?
Alediran 10-26-07, 10:14 AM	I've saw one, not living, but in a museum in Puerto Madryn (only the head was two meters long)
Dimensional_Drifter 10-26-07, 11:53 AM	Although this has been answered already, I must say something. Eldath said in the book that he was a megalodon and perhaps the first of his kind. Also the book stated that Iakhovas in this form (his true form I would guess) was 90 foot in length. Although I doubt any shark has ever that large would have been a megalodon as they were much smaller. But we ain't talking about Earth here, and as a fantasy world, who could say what species of shark he'd be in that form. I figure Iakhovas was an ancient evil of sorts. Megalodon didn't exist for that long in Earth's history and were probably specialized predators. They only found fossils of it in places what were shallow seas at one time. However, as for Iakhovas, I wish the author didn't write him as megalodon in the end. And Jherek could have never killed such a being were it not for Lathander.
MarkusTay63 10-26-07, 12:13 PM	Actually, did we recently get pictures of them?Had to check YouTube - it appears you are correct, but that was just a baby. :D I'd like to see one of the true 'Giants' - the ones that lives in the ocean depths that are reportedly 20m in length! :eek:
MerrikCale 10-27-07, 09:50 AM	I thought Iakhovas was the author of Grand History of the Realms. How could a giant shark write a book? You people are so silly
MarkusTay63 10-27-07, 01:04 PM	Technically, he is only the author of parts of the book (certain vingettes) - the rest was just copied from previous sourcebooks or written by other authors (more vingettes). In fact, except for the vingettes, MAPS, a couple of new entries, and the coverart, ALL of that tome appeared elsewhere first. ;) Not belittling what he did - the original compilation was a monumental amount of work and he deserves his accolades. It must be VERY hard to write with a pen in your fin. ;) Editted becasue I forgot something VERY important. :embarrass
creyzi4zb12 10-27-07, 01:18 PM	I thought Iakhovas was the author of Grand History of the Realms. How could a giant shark write a book? You people are so silly He can change his form to human..or anything he wants to.
Iakhovas 10-27-07, 03:35 PM	In fact, except for the vingettes, a couple of new entries, and the coverart, ALL of that tome appeared elsewhere first. ;) Mark, you forget the shiny new maps! :bigeyes:
MarkusTay63 10-28-07, 10:35 AM	Oh dang! :embarrass How the heck did I forget those? :confused: True, the maps, the Vingettes, and the new entries make the tome indispensible. Sorry for that, I wasn't casting disparaging remarks, just giving credit to the MANY authors of the original timeline entries. ;)
Stigger 10-30-07, 08:40 AM	Considering that we can't even reach the bottom of something so close as the Monterrey Canyon, much less things like the Marianas Trench, I don't really think its all that wise to discount anything being possible in relation to the sea, as we have only barely scratched the surface of it, so to speak. Just think of the Coelecanth afterall... I don't think a living megalodon is that big of a stretch really considering how shallow our explorations have really been in terms of the actual depth of the sea.
Alediran 10-30-07, 09:57 AM	Not only that, but the ELEs (earth's RSEs :P) haven't shaken the oceans that much. Megalodons where still alive when humanity gave it's first steps.