Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Snowstealer 11-09-07, 12:54 AM	Who would win in a fight between two who can use their minds as a weapon, and faster before you can say Charon's Claw?
DMD 11-09-07, 10:46 AM	From a novel standpoint or a D&D mechanics standpoint?
Lord Karsus 11-09-07, 12:32 PM	-I would win. I recently took the portfolio of "Useless Character Battles/Comparisons", so I get more power every time someone posts in one of these kinds of threads.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-09-07, 01:19 PM	And please, please use a regular font size and color (black).
Zsych 11-10-07, 11:50 PM	Who is grandmaster Kane? :P
Phelf_Der_Zemit 11-11-07, 12:49 PM	RA salvatore charactor, from road of the matriarch. like a level 24 monk. hm.. not sure of the stats on Kimmuriel, but seeing as he is drow, and the leader of a big, huge, mercanery band, id have to give the edge to him. seeing as the monk probably wouldnt accept help from anybody, while Oblodra might buy a mindflayer or somthing, either way, the drow will do what needs to be done, any way, anyhow. not the nobile kane, though he won't hesitate to kill, he will go about killing in a less dirty way. And Why Did They Put It There If We Shouldnt Use It?
CreationOmega 11-11-07, 03:41 PM	I hated Kane so much. King Gareth could kill children, and his response would be: "It is the will of the king". According to Kanes battle movements, not even Elimenster could beat him. "He was so fast that he made the Dragons attack each other". Now then, let's talk some modern warfare...some Terroist sucucide bombers let's say. He would run up, to do some kicks or punches of the sort, then? "Aiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaiaaiaiaiai infidel!" Boom, Kane dies in a explosion.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-11-07, 05:43 PM	I hated Kane so much. King Gareth could kill children, and his response would be: "It is the will of the king". I was annoyed at how Kane supposedly has taken a "Vow of Poverty", yet he has nifty (and probably expensive) magical items like a flying carpet, and he was quick to justify the idea of kings having immense wealth. Hypocrite!
Lord Karsus 11-11-07, 05:47 PM	-Look at ExtinctionBeta being all well behaved and everything. :)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-11-07, 05:57 PM	-Look at ExtinctionBeta being all well behaved and everything. :) Hopefully it stays that way, or I'll go back to pressing a certain button.
Lord Karsus 11-11-07, 06:10 PM	Hopefully it stays that way, or I'll go back to pressing a certain button. -Well, his three posts so far seem pretty good, so here's to hoping. :pint:
CreationOmega 11-11-07, 08:16 PM	-Look at ExtinctionBeta being all well behaved and everything. :) Sorry for the confusion, but I am Omega...not Beta. But from what I heard of this divine being....he is one of the sexiest people alive. Not only that! When AO had demanded him to stop playing God, he replied: "I don't play God, playing is for children". Wish I could have met him, which would only lead to gains without losses.
Lord Karsus 11-11-07, 08:26 PM	Sorry for the confusion, but I am Omega...not Beta. But from what I heard of this divine being....he is one of the sexiest people alive. Not only that! When AO had demanded him to stop playing God, he replied: "I don't play God, playing is for children". Wish I could have met him, which would only lead to gains without losses. -You can't fool Karsus. I've seen all the tricks in the books. Having a soul seperated into three dictinct-but-equal portions does have some benefits. -The name similarity first alerted me, as did the mispelling of Elminster ('Elimenster'), and the staunch atheism in the sig. Karsus knows, Karsus knows...
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-11-07, 08:36 PM	Yes, the misspelling of Elminster clicked for me, too. And yes, it is hard to fool a man who was, for but a moment, a god.
18DELTA 11-11-07, 09:51 PM	-You can't fool Karsus. I've seen all the tricks in the books. Having a soul seperated into three dictinct-but-equal portions does have some benefits. -The name similarity first alerted me, as did the mispelling of Elminster ('Elimenster'), and the staunch atheism in the sig. Karsus knows, Karsus knows... You are wise beyond measure!:bow:
MerrikCale 11-11-07, 10:17 PM	RA salvatore charactor, from road of the matriarch. like a level 24 monk. his 1st appearance occurred many many years ago in the Bloodstone modules, the first of which came around the same time as the first Realms boxed set
Snowstealer 11-12-07, 01:03 AM	Uh, guys, we havent resolved who can beat who. Both in the novel's standpoints and actual game mechanics. Who here thinks Grandmaster Kane would win over Kimmuriel Oblodra, and vice versa? Both have powerful minds, with Kimmuriel bantering his wits with the illithids, and Kane meditating to gain enlightenment.
Lord Karsus 11-12-07, 01:05 AM	Uh, guys, we havent resolved who can beat who. -We've established that I would win. -If you want a (semi) serious answer, give this match-up some context. Where are they? Why are they fighting? On what terms are they fighting? And so on...
nightside_samurai 11-12-07, 01:21 AM	If Kane is just a Monk 20, then he's going to lose. Monks suck butt. --n. samurai: Card Carrying Member of the Monk Haters Club.
creyzi4zb12 11-12-07, 04:04 AM	Shouldn't there be a hidden meaning between Jarlaxle not trying to fight the monk? Maybe they know each other long ago. Or maybe Kane was a drow once.
DMD 11-12-07, 10:49 AM	Kane's first appearance ( as a FR character) was as a pre-generated character in Bloodstone Wars module H3. H1 and H2 were released before FR was up and running. From a combat mechanics standpoint Kane would win because his saves would be high enough to resist most of Kimmurel's best attacks and a Psion (without some sort of buffs) cannot stand toe to toe with an opponent like Kane. Of course not having their stats in front of me this would be my conclusion but I could be wrong. I think Lord Karsus is right, need to know the situation. It is a question that really cannot be answered without knowing how the meeting went down in the first place. From a novelization standpoint it would be whoever RAS wants to have win.
Lord Karsus 11-12-07, 01:17 PM	Shouldn't there be a hidden meaning between Jarlaxle not trying to fight the monk? Maybe they know each other long ago. Or maybe Kane was a drow once. -Hmm...Makes you wonder... I think Lord Karsus is right, need to know the situation. -Of course I'm right!
Bonzai 11-12-07, 01:28 PM	Assuming that RAS was writing? Kane all the way. He loves monks.
Fingoldfin 11-12-07, 03:47 PM	If Kane is just a Monk 20, then he's going to lose. Monks suck butt. --n. samurai: Card Carrying Member of the Monk Haters Club. Wow! Your argument is a logical steel trap. It's well reasoned and well thought out. You've convinced me.:rolleyes:
bondious 11-12-07, 05:28 PM	Assuming that RAS was writing? Kane all the way. He loves monks. I agree. He stated as such in the opening/forward to the 'Cleric Quintet' compelation, saying that he REALLY wanted to write the series about a monk, but the TSR folks wouldn't let him 'cause monks were going "bye-bye" for the D&D edition at the time (2nd, I think). As for who I think would win, I'd say Kane because I get the feeling that he's just that much more "superior" to most other folks in "Salvatore's Realms". I mean, he has those two dragon sisters in check, and they seem like a force to be reckoned with. Kimmuriel, on the other hand, seems either equivalent to Jarlaxle and Artemis or lower, and it kinda seemed like MAYBE Kane and Artemis MIGHT have been nearly on par, though with Kane being a bit higher. :confused: I don't know...not enough information! :confused: (Though I REALLY WISH that Kane had beaten the crap out of Artemis, just to knock the "stoic/emo/'I hate everyone' crybaby" complex out of him. That would have been cool.) :D
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-12-07, 07:01 PM	Uh, guys, we havent resolved who can beat who. It's impossible to resolve such a thing, so you'll find that many people don't bother. Both in the novel's standpoints and actual game mechanics. Who here thinks Grandmaster Kane would win over Kimmuriel Oblodra, and vice versa? Both have powerful minds, with Kimmuriel bantering his wits with the illithids, and Kane meditating to gain enlightenment. This is really just an X vs. Y thread. Many people around here dislike those types of threads because people can argue back and forth forever about what the conditions would be, why such characters would be fighting, and whether or not actual game stats or portrayals in novels (which are unreliable at best) should be considered more important.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-12-07, 07:06 PM	As for who I think would win, I'd say Kane because I get the feeling that he's just that much more "superior" to most other folks in "Salvatore's Realms". I mean, he has those two dragon sisters in check, and they seem like a force to be reckoned with. We don't know to what extent Kane "had them in check". We are told they were wary of Kane, but for all we know, if it came down to the dragons fighting Kane, the dragons might have won! And that goes for most of these X vs. Y theads--just because X seems to be weaker than Y, doesn't mean he couldn't win under certain circumstances. Nothing is guaranteed.
Dark Wizard 11-12-07, 07:13 PM	Every time I read "Grandmaster Kane" I picture Kane, the bald guy with a goatee from the Command and Conquer games, kicking ass with weird pseudo-science kungfu while reciting faux-religious quotes, all with hammed up acting in front of obviously CG backgrounds.
bondious 11-12-07, 07:31 PM	We don't know to what extent Kane "had them in check". We are told they were wary of Kane, but for all we know, if it came down to the dragons fighting Kane, the dragons might have won! From what I read, it was pretty clear that the dragon sisters wanted nothing to do with Kane, and believed that the outcome of a fight between them was uncertain at best, and most likely to their own detriment. As it is, though, I would pick Kane in a straight-up fight against Kimmuriel simply because I feel that Kane is an epic level character and Kimmuriel is not. This is just a "feeling" I gather from how the characters are described in the book, and I have no official stats or anything to compare the two, so it's at best just my personal opinion. And that goes for most of these X vs. Y theads--just because X seems to be weaker than Y, doesn't mean he couldn't win under certain circumstances. Nothing is guaranteed. I agree that nothing would be guaranteed. It would come down to many different factors for something like that, including (but not limited to) whether it was one-on-one, if eiter combatant has allies, who has the advantage (surprise, terrain, circumstance, foreknowledge) AND, most importantly, dice rolls.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-12-07, 07:46 PM	From what I read, it was pretty clear that the dragon sisters wanted nothing to do with Kane, and believed that the outcome of a fight between them was uncertain at best, and most likely to their own detriment. Well, this is exactly why high level people of all types don't usually go around trying to wipe each other out. They don't want to take the risk that THEY might be the losers. Anyway, the dragon sisters weren't exactly enemies of Kane to begin with. I just don't agree that Kane "had them in check" or anything. I agree that nothing would be guaranteed. It would come down to many different factors for something like that, including (but not limited to) whether it was one-on-one, if eiter combatant has allies, who has the advantage (surprise, terrain, circumstance, foreknowledge) AND, most importantly, dice rolls. Right, which is why I find threads like this to be pretty pointless, except for starting (equally pointless) debates.
Lord Karsus 11-12-07, 07:49 PM	-I always found the idea that not one, but two Dragons were so weary of Kane, especially considering how their relationship with Jarlaxle and Entreri, both of whom are no pushovers themselves.
bondious 11-12-07, 08:15 PM	Anyway, the dragon sisters weren't exactly enemies of Kane to begin with. I just don't agree that Kane "had them in check" or anything. I'd hate to be blamed for continuing an arguement, here, and I'm really not trying to argue, but I have to disagree. I agree that they weren't necessarily "enemies", though my statement that he had the dragon sisters "in check" was accurate. He's one of those "know-it-all" type of characters who is always in control, the epitome of control, and he seemed to know that they were wary of him, for one reason or another, and used that to his advantage during their encounter. Now to say that he's going to prevail against a pair of dragons, I can't say that. MAYBE it's just a case of his reputation preceeding him, and that he's not all that and the dragon sisters could mop the floor with him. Who knows? Or maybe it's the other way around, and if it came to blows then he'd have himself some new dragonhide vestments. One doesn't always have to be more powerful than another to hold that person (or persons) in check, with intimidation and reputation going a long way. -I always found the idea that not one, but two Dragons were so weary of Kane, especially considering how their relationship with Jarlaxle and Entreri, both of whom are no pushovers themselves. Also, Jarlaxle and Artemis seemed to be intimidated by the sisters; they knew the ladies were dragons, and were cautious enough not to warrent their ire as a means of self preservation. Similar to the way that the sisters responded to Kane, from what I recall.
Lord Karsus 11-12-07, 10:19 PM	Also, Jarlaxle and Artemis seemed to be intimidated by the sisters; they knew the ladies were dragons, and were cautious enough not to warrent their ire as a means of self preservation. Similar to the way that the sisters responded to Kane, from what I recall. -What I mean is that Jarlaxle and Entreri combined pose a greater threat to the sisters than Kane. Entreri is...16th level, and Jarlaxle is 18th level? That's 34 combined levels, as opposed to Kane's twentysomething levels. Jarlaxle and Entreri are also unprediatable and evil, whereas Kane is predictable, and good. -What I'm saying is that you'd think the sisters would either have a little more fear/respect for Entreri and Jarlaxle, or a little less fear/respect for Kane.
Blibbering_Humdinger 11-12-07, 11:24 PM	*nods* Yup, I have to agree that the winner of this battle would be Lord Karsus. Let Kimmuriel and Kane finish each other off on the massive field of honor that is the Vaasa at midnight, and Karsus will inevitably reap the rewards of their struggle, not only via his portfolio but by snatching up the spoils of the Double K.O. :P
Lord Karsus 11-13-07, 12:05 AM	*nods* Yup, I have to agree that the winner of this battle would be Lord Karsus. Let Kimmuriel and Kane finish each other off on the massive field of honor that is the Vaasa at midnight, and Karsus will inevitably reap the rewards of their struggle, not only via his portfolio but by snatching up the spoils of the Double K.O. :P -You have such a way with words. :)
nightside_samurai 11-13-07, 01:50 AM	Wow! Your argument is a logical steel trap. It's well reasoned and well thought out. You've convinced me.:rolleyes: Your grasp of humor is inspiring. For serious :rolleyes:
Aldareth 11-13-07, 02:17 AM	hello dear dragons, my name ist Kane , maybe you heard of me? im the buddy of king gareth, champion of ilmater und favored by bahamut, have i mention that epic archwizard, cleric and fighter that i often hang around? or that little army that follows gareth ? as a dragon i would be wary too...even if kane was a lvl 2 monk
creyzi4zb12 11-13-07, 02:46 AM	Kane is a drow in disguise. I'm sure of it. I mean, how could one human be that powerful?
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-13-07, 10:12 AM	hello dear dragons, my name ist Kane , maybe you heard of me? im the buddy of king gareth, champion of ilmater und favored by bahamut, have i mention that epic archwizard, cleric and fighter that i often hang around? or that little army that follows gareth ? as a dragon i would be wary too...even if kane was a lvl 2 monk Yes, we all know Kane is a twinky munchkin, you don't need to remind us. For the record, I don't think he's that high level either--wasn't his last recorded level 19 or something?
Aldareth 11-13-07, 10:57 AM	i liked Kane , i just wanted to show that it realy dont matter what level kane is, as long as he is in danmara and has the reputation that he has ( even if not all ist truth), he is a force that is not easy to handle, not even by a dragon
Lord Karsus 11-13-07, 11:41 AM	For the record, I don't think he's that high level either--wasn't his last recorded level 19 or something? -Sixteen, I checked last night. Give hima couple of levels for time and the 3e conversion, and he's right on the cusp of Epic, but not much more.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-13-07, 11:49 AM	-Sixteen, I checked last night. Give hima couple of levels for time and the 3e conversion, and he's right on the cusp of Epic, but not much more. That sounds about right. Which makes it funny when fans of this guy (not necessarily in this thread) start saying he's, like, lvl 30 or more. :rofl:
selunatic2397 11-13-07, 03:21 PM	In first edition monks were so bad that after one time that ended with my players wiping out an evil monastary with no damage whatsoever... They asked me to never run monks again...and I have not. Since no setting or variables were given to this match, I will put in my own ... solo fight...no backups at all...first edition rules...ten by ten foot room Kane is slaughtered...his hp are too low...his ac is very bad... In any other setting I bow to those who are it's champions :)
Bonzai 11-13-07, 04:52 PM	I could swear that I saw an updated version of Gareth and company, and that Kane was around 22. Which wouldn't suprise me, given they have taken on the Zhengyi and an Avatar of Orcus. Now on the other hand, I have seen some people do some insane things with a psion....
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-13-07, 05:18 PM	I could swear that I saw an updated version of Gareth and company, and that Kane was around 22. Which wouldn't suprise me, given they have taken on the Zhengyi and an Avatar of Orcus. That might have been a fan interpretation.
nightside_samurai 11-13-07, 05:27 PM	Is he just a straight Monk or did he get a Prestige Class at some point? Monks really aren't that powerful considering what the caster classes can do. If properly equipped a Psion could easily take on a Monk of equal level. Especially if he's taken Vow of Poverty which doesn't do as much at higher levels when magic items tip the scales in the favor of other people.
Lord Karsus 11-13-07, 05:33 PM	Is he just a straight Monk or did he get a Prestige Class at some point? Monks really aren't that powerful considering what the caster classes can do. If properly equipped a Psion could easily take on a Monk of equal level. Especially if he's taken Vow of Poverty which doesn't do as much at higher levels when magic items tip the scales in the favor of other people. -His only stats (as far as I know) are in 2e, meaning that Prestige Classes did not exist. In 2e, he was a straight-up Monk 16.
CreationOmega 11-13-07, 05:49 PM	Well all of you forget that the Monk does not have to hit him or even move very much to kill the Drow. He can do his over-powered speak one word move that he used on Artemis to release the hostage Ranger. It does not matter if the Drow has a strong will of mind....so does Artemis (the shard vs Artemis will). So in logical terms, 1 on 1, there is no one who could take him on.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-13-07, 06:00 PM	Is he just a straight Monk or did he get a Prestige Class at some point? Monks really aren't that powerful considering what the caster classes can do. If properly equipped a Psion could easily take on a Monk of equal level. Especially if he's taken Vow of Poverty which doesn't do as much at higher levels when magic items tip the scales in the favor of other people. Remember, he "cheats"--he still has magical items in spite of his vow.:rolleyes:
CreationOmega 11-13-07, 06:04 PM	Remember, he "cheats"--he still has magical items in spite of his vow.:rolleyes: It's not cheating...it's enhancing until you get caught. And last I checked, no where in the novels does anyone mention it to him. Cool author...RAS.
Lord Karsus 11-13-07, 06:37 PM	So in logical terms, 1 on 1, there is no one who could take him on. -Oh, there are plenty of people who would simply laugh at Kane, if faced off against him. However, they are not involved in this "battle".
CreationOmega 11-13-07, 06:40 PM	-Oh, there are plenty of people who would simply laugh at Kane, if faced off against him. However, they are not involved in this "battle". Could you list some of those "people"? I was unaware that a RAS character could die...ever.
nightside_samurai 11-13-07, 06:49 PM	Well all of you forget that the Monk does not have to hit him or even move very much to kill the Drow. He can do his over-powered speak one word move that he used on Artemis to release the hostage Ranger. It does not matter if the Drow has a strong will of mind....so does Artemis (the shard vs Artemis will). So in logical terms, 1 on 1, there is no one who could take him on. That's Quivering Palm and he has to succeed on an attack to use it. So Kane would have to win Initiative and then land an attack. And if I'm DM'ing then Kane has no special bonuses because he broke his Vow :P
Lord Karsus 11-13-07, 07:01 PM	Could you list some of those "people"? I was unaware that a RAS character could die...ever. -Well, I'll prepose this to you, EB. Who would win in a fight to the death, where both opponents are at full strength and have no handicaps: Drizzt or Kane?
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-13-07, 07:39 PM	-Well, I'll prepose this to you, EB. Who would win in a fight to the death, where both opponents are at full strength and have no handicaps: Drizzt or Kane? Karsus!
Lord Karsus 11-13-07, 08:16 PM	Karsus! -Exactly: I would win. Like I said, I get stronger every time someone preposes a new character battle. I'm helping my own cause! :evillaugh
18DELTA 11-13-07, 11:17 PM	-Well, I'll prepose this to you, EB. Who would win in a fight to the death, where both opponents are at full strength and have no handicaps: Drizzt or Kane? :eek: :banghead: :hides: :smirk:
Lord Karsus 11-13-07, 11:36 PM	:eek: :banghead: :hides: :smirk: -Heh, that's the second time you posted that!
18DELTA 11-14-07, 08:08 AM	It means EEK! Oh darn its happening again! Let me hide and watch, yet out of morbid curiosity I still watch!:P Yet these thread do make you more powerful L K!:D
Lord Karsus 11-14-07, 11:59 AM	Yet these thread do make you more powerful L K!:D -I wouldn't lie. I'm trying to gather enough power to reverse the preposed 4e changes...
MarkusTay63 11-14-07, 01:16 PM	I HATE these 'vs' arguments!!! :headexplo and if RAS were writing it, Drizzt would win hands down. In fact, he would single-handedly take out all of Kane's friends and Gareths army, and probably eat the Dragon sisters as an after-thought. Its not that Drizzt is a great fighter, you see, it's that anyone who gets close enough to him and hears his depressing, inane drivel commits suicide. ;)
CreationOmega 11-15-07, 06:25 PM	I HATE these 'vs' arguments!!! :headexplo and if RAS were writing it, Drizzt would win hands down. In fact, he would single-handedly take out all of Kane's friends and Gareths army, and probably eat the Dragon sisters as an after-thought. Its not that Drizzt is a great fighter, you see, it's that anyone who gets close enough to him and hears his depressing, inane drivel commits suicide. ;) Not only that, but am I the only one who notices when talking about how good of a fighter Artemis is, it reads "Rival of Drizzt Do'Urden!"...but never do I read in a Drizzt novel "Rival of Artemis!". That is because RAS plays favorites, showing Artemis is trying to aspire to Drizzt's status and not the other way around. If they are Rivals, it should be a equal standpoint and not a slightly lesser being.
Lord Karsus 11-15-07, 06:39 PM	If they are Rivals, it should be a equal standpoint and not a slightly lesser being. -Not necessarily. Rivals can be "on the same level", which Drizzt and Entreri mostly are, but rivals can also be on "different levels". For example, Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants are considered rivals, a vestige of their Brooklyn/New York glory days. The Dodgers are a vastly superior team, as compared to the Giants nowadays. The two teams are rivals, but they aren't "on the same level".
CreationOmega 11-15-07, 06:44 PM	-Not necessarily. Rivals can be "on the same level", which Drizzt and Entreri mostly are, but rivals can also be on "different levels". For example, Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants are considered rivals, a vestige of their Brooklyn/New York glory days. The Dodgers are a vastly superior team, as compared to the Giants nowadays. The two teams are rivals, but they aren't "on the same level". A better analogy would have been "Yankees vs Red Sox" (The more popular Rivals in baseball). I am dissapointed in you since you are from New York and having no Pride for Either the Yankees or Mets. But for the general over all view, you are implying that Drizzt is "vastly superior" than Artemis even though they are rivals correct?
Lord Karsus 11-15-07, 06:58 PM	A better analogy would have been "Yankees vs Red Sox" (The more popular Rivals in baseball). I am dissapointed in you since you are from New York and having no Pride for Either the Yankees or Mets. -No, that wouldn't be a better analogy, because the Yankees and the Red Sox are on par with each other. My point, that you missed, is that rivals don't have to be on the same field. -And don't talk baseball with me, kid. You're overmatched. But for the general over all view, you are implying that Drizzt is "vastly superior" than Artemis even though they are rivals correct? -Neither, you missed the point. I was merely pointing out that rivals, as you incorrectly stated, do not have to be on the same level.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-15-07, 07:17 PM	Oh, we all LOOOOOOOOOOOVE Drizzt and think he is absolutely, positively, vastly superior to Artemis AND he should be able to kill gods with ease. He is the greatest warrior to ever walk Toril.:ayyyy!:
CreationOmega 11-15-07, 07:53 PM	Oh, we all LOOOOOOOOOOOVE Drizzt and think he is absolutely, positively, vastly superior to Artemis AND he should be able to kill gods with ease. He is the greatest warrior to ever walk Toril.:ayyyy!: I don't get what point you are trying to make. Are you suggesting that my view on Drizzt and Artemis are horribly misunderstood? And by the way Lord, try me. I am probally the most well-rounded person on this forum to talk about with anything: Cars/Sports/Games/Music/Parties/Fighting. It's usually why I take a few days to reply to some post when I'm away from my computer. Without looking up on any "sources", I am pretty sure I could out do you in baseball.
Stigger 11-15-07, 08:01 PM	If I may... I think what LK is getting at is that the Giants and Dodgers are traditional rivals, but that doesn't necessarily mean that at the moment they are comparable in their line up, with a significant disparity in their skill level. That disparity does not however remove the rivalry of the two teams. As to Rinos comments, that sounded more like a swipe at the general views of Drizzt fanbois, but I could be mistaken. As to being the most well-rounded person, that could very well be true, but it is kinda poor form to say it... its generally perceived better to have others bestow that accolade upon you than it is for you to say it of yourself. Deeds not words and all that. ;)
CreationOmega 11-15-07, 08:07 PM	As to being the most well-rounded person, that could very well be true, but it is kinda poor form to say it... its generally perceived better to have others bestow that accolade upon you than it is for you to say it of yourself. Deeds not words and all that. ;) Belive me good sir, I would indeed show it if I could, but with a certain person that will report the slightest off topic post, I can not have the oppritunity to allow others to back up my so called claim. If anyone wants to talk about something that no one is on AIM or MSN, feel free to PM me. I have quite a few very intresting conversations with some of you, and many others I'm sure that would wish to intervine as well. But thanks for the benifit of doubt Stig
Lord Karsus 11-15-07, 08:12 PM	And by the way Lord, try me. I am probally the most well-rounded person on this forum to talk about with anything: Cars/Sports/Games/Music/Parties/Fighting. It's usually why I take a few days to reply to some post when I'm away from my computer. Without looking up on any "sources", I am pretty sure I could out do you in baseball. -Somehow, I doubt that. Both points. :rolleyes: :: Casts EB Gets A Reprieve On One Off-Topic Post :: -A very simply one: Who was the most dominant left-handed pitcher within a five year time frame?
CreationOmega 11-15-07, 08:17 PM	-Somehow, I doubt that. Both points. :rolleyes: :: Casts EB Gets A Reprieve On One Off-Topic Post :: -A very simply one: Who was the most dominant left-handed pitcher within a five year time frame? Earl Johnson I guess. O.o
Stigger 11-15-07, 08:19 PM	I doubt you'll get reported for off-topic posts so long as you remain reasonable and civil. Presuming that I know of whom you speak, I doubt that they're as petty and vindictive as you seem to be under the impression they are.
Lord Karsus 11-15-07, 08:21 PM	Earl Johnson I guess. O.o -Nope. Koufax. Good pick, though.
CreationOmega 11-15-07, 08:24 PM	-Nope. Koufax. Good pick, though. Well you must be more specific, most dominant is a opinion, you could have said he was the first major leaguer to pitch more than three no-hitters .
Lord Karsus 11-15-07, 08:29 PM	Well you must be more specific, most dominant is a opinion, you could have said he was the first major leaguer to pitch more than three no-hitters . -Statistically (ie, facts, not opinions), he was the most dominant pitcher in a five-year time span ('61 to '66).
CreationOmega 11-15-07, 08:33 PM	-('61 to '66). This was not mentioned. Throw me another, unless a certain person is going to attack me for going off topic, then don't worry about it and maybe you can PM another instead. Kane is bald!!!!! GG HAHA And those of you who say Jarlaxelle is too? Nope! Had grown blonde hair at the end of Road of The Patriarch.
Lord Karsus 11-15-07, 08:39 PM	This was not mentioned. Throw me another, unless a certain person is going to attack me for going off topic, then don't worry about it and maybe you can PM another instead. -A time frame was not needed. Thoughout the history of baseball, Koufax was the most dominant pitcher in a five year span. I'll PM you another question.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-15-07, 09:28 PM	As to Rinos comments, that sounded more like a swipe at the general views of Drizzt fanbois, but I could be mistaken. That's correct, but my post was also a tongue-in-cheek response to EB's loaded questions about whether or not posters here love Drizzt and think he's better than Artemis (or various other evil characters).
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-15-07, 09:33 PM	This was not mentioned. Throw me another, unless a certain person is going to attack me for going off topic, then don't worry about it and maybe you can PM another instead. Assuming you are talking about me... I don't report posts that are off-topic, I report posts that are rude, baiting, trolling, or attempts at creating drama here. Like the martyrish post I just replied to. Stop referring to me like that in your posts--I consider it a form of harassment and will treat it as such.
WizO_Kwai_Chang 11-15-07, 09:40 PM	This thread has clearly gone off topic, I am simply going to close it.