Melvaunt vs Zhentil Keep [Archive] - Wizards Community

Melvaunt vs Zhentil Keep [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Belissaire
10-23-07, 10:37 AM Reading the GHotR, its evident that ZK is on the rise with all the conquerin' and the fightin' and pointy swords and the Bane worshippin'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ZK is allied with Mulmaster and by 1385, it controls Hillsfar, Phlan and Yulash. But the History of Realm is rather silent of what becomes of Melvaunt in this.

I'm running the Mysteries of the Moonsea and the Sons of Grumuush adventures, and my PCs are thinking of having allies in the city that are against ZK. However, considering the events unfolding, is Melvaunt becoming a satellite in the region? Are the families considering allying themselves with either Sembia (pre-Civil War) or the Elves or maybe Cormyr??? (By the way things are going, there's no longer any great powers in the region except from ZK and the Elves...)

So Moonsea experts, what are your opinions on the matter?

Bel.
Belissaire
10-31-07, 11:03 AM Nobody cares about Melvaunt... :(
DMD
11-01-07, 01:27 PM I just started running Sons of Gruumsh myself. Of course the year in my game is early 1362 so I am very far away from current timeline.

I would guess that if the ruling families were smart (and they seem to be), they would either side with the elves (although I doubt the elves would be too eager to side with a city full of wretched evil humans) or Zhentil Keep since there is no one else to support them.

Of course they could always try to strengthen (or create) ties with a city like Tantras or Raven's Bluff, essentially other independent city states. Of course they would not be so independent if they had to do this.

Looks like if they don't they will fall to Zhentil Keep sooner than later.
makaku
11-02-07, 09:18 AM I'm just starting Moonsea as well. Is there a good site for more information on Melvaunt itself? I'm starting there, I like the dark, gritty settings :D
Belissaire
11-02-07, 08:23 PM Well, there's always mysteries of the moonsea...
There are people more knowledgeable about the FR bibliography.

Personally, I picture Melvaunt as city run by Vito Corleone in the midst of the God Father I with the war between the families...

Bel.
Stigger
11-02-07, 09:29 PM Only thing besides MotM with anything on Melvaunt that I can think of was the 2e Moonsea accessory, but I don't recall it going into that much depth.
makaku
11-03-07, 10:05 AM Leave it up to me to pick a city with hardly any information on it :D I guess I'll have to borrow from some place then. Any ideas on something that may be similar?
MarkusTay63
11-03-07, 11:12 AM Sometimes starting in a region with very little canon history is a good thing. It means you can stick whatever YOU want there without too much trouble.
Stigger
11-04-07, 10:42 AM Kinda why I like Neverwinter for my campaigns, isn't much on it and what there is fits my needs nicely. Mind you I utterly ignore the videogames as far as its concerned...
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-04-07, 06:50 PM Sometimes starting in a region with very little canon history is a good thing. It means you can stick whatever YOU want there without too much trouble.

Agreed, why not develop the city on your own?
Belissaire
11-05-07, 09:10 AM Agreed, why not develop the city on your own?

There's nonproblem with that... but from GHotR, you get the sense that a lot of
geopolitical action with Zhentil Keep really expanding its sphere of influence. And that's not even taking into account the Elves coming back in the region and Sembia and the Dales getting involved. So, the question is not what happens in the city, but what happens in the region that will affect the city's overall position.

And with the Black Network claiming monopoly on the weapons shipping, it's sure to have an impact on the premier weapon and armor producer this side of Aunoroch...

Bel.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-05-07, 11:14 AM There's nonproblem with that... but from GHotR, you get the sense that a lot of
geopolitical action with Zhentil Keep really expanding its sphere of influence. And that's not even taking into account the Elves coming back in the region and Sembia and the Dales getting involved. So, the question is not what happens in the city, but what happens in the region that will affect the city's overall position.

It's always an option to ignore those events--I do.:) Though that may not work for you, for whatever reason (ie. you've already incorporated those events into your story).
DMD
11-06-07, 02:12 PM There is a lot of plot in that geopolitical action that you can take advantage of. I see it as something that will enhance adventures not detract from them.
MerrikCale
11-08-07, 08:39 PM Nobody cares about Melvaunt... :(

not really

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Belissaire 10-23-07, 10:37 AM	Reading the GHotR, its evident that ZK is on the rise with all the conquerin' and the fightin' and pointy swords and the Bane worshippin'. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ZK is allied with Mulmaster and by 1385, it controls Hillsfar, Phlan and Yulash. But the History of Realm is rather silent of what becomes of Melvaunt in this. I'm running the Mysteries of the Moonsea and the Sons of Grumuush adventures, and my PCs are thinking of having allies in the city that are against ZK. However, considering the events unfolding, is Melvaunt becoming a satellite in the region? Are the families considering allying themselves with either Sembia (pre-Civil War) or the Elves or maybe Cormyr??? (By the way things are going, there's no longer any great powers in the region except from ZK and the Elves...) So Moonsea experts, what are your opinions on the matter? Bel.
Belissaire 10-31-07, 11:03 AM	Nobody cares about Melvaunt... :(
DMD 11-01-07, 01:27 PM	I just started running Sons of Gruumsh myself. Of course the year in my game is early 1362 so I am very far away from current timeline. I would guess that if the ruling families were smart (and they seem to be), they would either side with the elves (although I doubt the elves would be too eager to side with a city full of wretched evil humans) or Zhentil Keep since there is no one else to support them. Of course they could always try to strengthen (or create) ties with a city like Tantras or Raven's Bluff, essentially other independent city states. Of course they would not be so independent if they had to do this. Looks like if they don't they will fall to Zhentil Keep sooner than later.
makaku 11-02-07, 09:18 AM	I'm just starting Moonsea as well. Is there a good site for more information on Melvaunt itself? I'm starting there, I like the dark, gritty settings :D
Belissaire 11-02-07, 08:23 PM	Well, there's always mysteries of the moonsea... There are people more knowledgeable about the FR bibliography. Personally, I picture Melvaunt as city run by Vito Corleone in the midst of the God Father I with the war between the families... Bel.
Stigger 11-02-07, 09:29 PM	Only thing besides MotM with anything on Melvaunt that I can think of was the 2e Moonsea accessory, but I don't recall it going into that much depth.
makaku 11-03-07, 10:05 AM	Leave it up to me to pick a city with hardly any information on it :D I guess I'll have to borrow from some place then. Any ideas on something that may be similar?
MarkusTay63 11-03-07, 11:12 AM	Sometimes starting in a region with very little canon history is a good thing. It means you can stick whatever YOU want there without too much trouble.
Stigger 11-04-07, 10:42 AM	Kinda why I like Neverwinter for my campaigns, isn't much on it and what there is fits my needs nicely. Mind you I utterly ignore the videogames as far as its concerned...
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-04-07, 06:50 PM	Sometimes starting in a region with very little canon history is a good thing. It means you can stick whatever YOU want there without too much trouble. Agreed, why not develop the city on your own?
Belissaire 11-05-07, 09:10 AM	Agreed, why not develop the city on your own? There's nonproblem with that... but from GHotR, you get the sense that a lot of geopolitical action with Zhentil Keep really expanding its sphere of influence. And that's not even taking into account the Elves coming back in the region and Sembia and the Dales getting involved. So, the question is not what happens in the city, but what happens in the region that will affect the city's overall position. And with the Black Network claiming monopoly on the weapons shipping, it's sure to have an impact on the premier weapon and armor producer this side of Aunoroch... Bel.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-05-07, 11:14 AM	There's nonproblem with that... but from GHotR, you get the sense that a lot of geopolitical action with Zhentil Keep really expanding its sphere of influence. And that's not even taking into account the Elves coming back in the region and Sembia and the Dales getting involved. So, the question is not what happens in the city, but what happens in the region that will affect the city's overall position. It's always an option to ignore those events--I do.:) Though that may not work for you, for whatever reason (ie. you've already incorporated those events into your story).
DMD 11-06-07, 02:12 PM	There is a lot of plot in that geopolitical action that you can take advantage of. I see it as something that will enhance adventures not detract from them.
MerrikCale 11-08-07, 08:39 PM	Nobody cares about Melvaunt... :( not really