Monastic Orders [Archive] - Wizards Community

Monastic Orders [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SaberXtreme
06-02-07, 08:49 PM Hey all,

I'm wondering if any of the Monastic Orders presented in the FRCS along with the Monk class are expounded upon in any other material. Is there a larger more involved description of their beliefs and or prestige classes to represent members of their order?
Old Sage
06-02-07, 09:10 PM Most of those monastic orders were made up for the FRCS to insert 3e monks into the Realms. Almost certainly, unlike almost every other aspect of the Realms, there's little or no extant unpublished lore.

The Broken Ones receive a brief nod in the F&P web enhancement -- but little true details are revealed beyond their mention as a monk order devoted to Ilmater.

The Dark Moon monks receive further treatment in Lords of Darkness.

Tom Reid said he expanded on those initial 'Hin Fist' details that were included in the 3e FRCS, for Shining South.

For the Monks of the Long Death... see Lords of Darkness.

Unless I've overlooked a new reference, there is almost nothing in print about the Old Order, other than the FRCS and the F&P WE.

The previews for the City of Splendors tome also provided details on the Sun Soul monks. They're detailed here - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050601a&page=4
MerrikCale
06-02-07, 09:18 PM The Sun Soul monks get a big work up in the Waterdeep 3.5 supplement
SaberXtreme
06-03-07, 12:11 AM Thanks for the respose guys. Its too bad that their isn't too much background on many of the orders. I'll definately take a look at the Waterdeep supplement when it is released.
MerrikCale
06-03-07, 12:12 AM Thanks for the respose guys. Its too bad that their isn't too much background on many of the orders. I'll definately take a look at the Waterdeep supplement when it is released.

Its out. Waterdeep City Of Splendors. The Sun Souls get a full write up and PrC
Lord Karsus
06-03-07, 12:30 AM -A few orders that Monks can certainly be placed into are mentioned in Powers and Pantheons, Demihuman Deities and Faiths and Avatars.
Old Sage
06-03-07, 12:52 AM You may also find this listing of Monk Orders useful:- http://candlekeep.com/library/articles/monks.htm

Tom Costa provided a variant monk, called the Varde Elgg, in his unofficial PDF material for PrCs in the Realms:- http://www.ericlboyd.com/dnd/prestige_classes.html

See the web enhancement for Faiths & Pantheons also, for brief listings of deity-based monkish orders:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20020504a

The 2e accessories - Lands of Intrigue and Empires of the Shining Sea - also cover several monastic orders, including one based on Ilmater.

And here's what Steven Schend had to say about several Ilmatari monkish orders active in the Lands of Intrigue -

"Abbeys & Cloisters of Ilmater
The ten cloisters of Ilmater were established over the past 400 years, and three of them remarkably came into being during the Alemandrian Interregnum. They are placed throughout the country such that a pilgrim/devotee can, with some effort, travel from one to another within two days' ride. They are all manors of sorts, with protective walls around at least a chapel, chapter house, stables, and gardens. Some are more opulent with libraries, monks' quarters separate from the chapter house, or even garrisons for an affiliated knightly order. Each has a specific goal for its faithful, in accord with the saint after which the house is named. While commoners see no distinction among them other than their services and ages, some are more prestigious within church hierarchies of Tethyr simply by their famous founders or associated saints. There are more notes and details about these
monasteries, including the various duties of each house, within the various county sections below. The cloisters of Ilmater are noted under their full names, though everyone refers to them simply by their saint's names (i.e. "St. Alaric's, St. Cabram's, etc.). They are listed by age (first number), and each has a second number, which ranks its prestige among the clergy:

1/2) Convent of St. Rhynda: Symbol=Night violet (deep bluish-purple
flower). Dedicated in the Year of Bright Nights (985 DR).
2/7) Missionary of St. Cabram: Symbol=Sunset daisy (deep orange).
Dedicated in the Year of the Stone Rose (1017 DR).
3/4) Monastery of St. Natan: Symbol=Calim lily (local pale blue floating
lily). Dedicated in the Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR).
4/5) Seminary of St. Ostus: Symbol=Morning glory. Dedicated in the Year
of Shambles (1088 DR).
5/1) Convent of St. Teresa: Symbol=Bloodlily (scarlet lily). Dedicated in
the Year of Azure Blood (1126 DR).
6/3) Abbey of St. Alaric: Symbol=Briar rose. Dedicated in the Year of the
Howling Moon (1130 DR).
7/8) Hospice of St. Corin: Symbol=Thistle. Dedicated in the Year of the
Yellow Rose (1242 DR).
8/10) St. Ramedar's Cloister: Symbol=Rock violet (pale, miniature ground
flower). Dedicated in the Year of the Dragon (1352 DR).
9/9) Monastery of St. Domin: Symbol=Mountain daisy (tiny, ochre-yellow
ground-crawling flowers). Dedicated in the Year of Maidens (1361 DR).
10/6) Priory of St. Silvyr: Symbol=Tuarlye (blue flower with green
highlights indigenous only to the Forest of Tethir). Dedicated in the Year
of the Staff (1366 DR)."
Stevenoble
06-03-07, 05:56 PM Ceck out Unapproachable east - Black Flame Zealots.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SaberXtreme 06-02-07, 08:49 PM	Hey all, I'm wondering if any of the Monastic Orders presented in the FRCS along with the Monk class are expounded upon in any other material. Is there a larger more involved description of their beliefs and or prestige classes to represent members of their order?
Old Sage 06-02-07, 09:10 PM	Most of those monastic orders were made up for the FRCS to insert 3e monks into the Realms. Almost certainly, unlike almost every other aspect of the Realms, there's little or no extant unpublished lore. The Broken Ones receive a brief nod in the F&P web enhancement -- but little true details are revealed beyond their mention as a monk order devoted to Ilmater. The Dark Moon monks receive further treatment in Lords of Darkness. Tom Reid said he expanded on those initial 'Hin Fist' details that were included in the 3e FRCS, for Shining South. For the Monks of the Long Death... see Lords of Darkness. Unless I've overlooked a new reference, there is almost nothing in print about the Old Order, other than the FRCS and the F&P WE. The previews for the City of Splendors tome also provided details on the Sun Soul monks. They're detailed here - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050601a&page=4
MerrikCale 06-02-07, 09:18 PM	The Sun Soul monks get a big work up in the Waterdeep 3.5 supplement
SaberXtreme 06-03-07, 12:11 AM	Thanks for the respose guys. Its too bad that their isn't too much background on many of the orders. I'll definately take a look at the Waterdeep supplement when it is released.
MerrikCale 06-03-07, 12:12 AM	Thanks for the respose guys. Its too bad that their isn't too much background on many of the orders. I'll definately take a look at the Waterdeep supplement when it is released. Its out. Waterdeep City Of Splendors. The Sun Souls get a full write up and PrC
Lord Karsus 06-03-07, 12:30 AM	-A few orders that Monks can certainly be placed into are mentioned in Powers and Pantheons, Demihuman Deities and Faiths and Avatars.
Old Sage 06-03-07, 12:52 AM	You may also find this listing of Monk Orders useful:- http://candlekeep.com/library/articles/monks.htm Tom Costa provided a variant monk, called the Varde Elgg, in his unofficial PDF material for PrCs in the Realms:- http://www.ericlboyd.com/dnd/prestige_classes.html See the web enhancement for Faiths & Pantheons also, for brief listings of deity-based monkish orders:- http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20020504a The 2e accessories - Lands of Intrigue and Empires of the Shining Sea - also cover several monastic orders, including one based on Ilmater. And here's what Steven Schend had to say about several Ilmatari monkish orders active in the Lands of Intrigue - "Abbeys & Cloisters of Ilmater The ten cloisters of Ilmater were established over the past 400 years, and three of them remarkably came into being during the Alemandrian Interregnum. They are placed throughout the country such that a pilgrim/devotee can, with some effort, travel from one to another within two days' ride. They are all manors of sorts, with protective walls around at least a chapel, chapter house, stables, and gardens. Some are more opulent with libraries, monks' quarters separate from the chapter house, or even garrisons for an affiliated knightly order. Each has a specific goal for its faithful, in accord with the saint after which the house is named. While commoners see no distinction among them other than their services and ages, some are more prestigious within church hierarchies of Tethyr simply by their famous founders or associated saints. There are more notes and details about these monasteries, including the various duties of each house, within the various county sections below. The cloisters of Ilmater are noted under their full names, though everyone refers to them simply by their saint's names (i.e. "St. Alaric's, St. Cabram's, etc.). They are listed by age (first number), and each has a second number, which ranks its prestige among the clergy: 1/2) Convent of St. Rhynda: Symbol=Night violet (deep bluish-purple flower). Dedicated in the Year of Bright Nights (985 DR). 2/7) Missionary of St. Cabram: Symbol=Sunset daisy (deep orange). Dedicated in the Year of the Stone Rose (1017 DR). 3/4) Monastery of St. Natan: Symbol=Calim lily (local pale blue floating lily). Dedicated in the Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR). 4/5) Seminary of St. Ostus: Symbol=Morning glory. Dedicated in the Year of Shambles (1088 DR). 5/1) Convent of St. Teresa: Symbol=Bloodlily (scarlet lily). Dedicated in the Year of Azure Blood (1126 DR). 6/3) Abbey of St. Alaric: Symbol=Briar rose. Dedicated in the Year of the Howling Moon (1130 DR). 7/8) Hospice of St. Corin: Symbol=Thistle. Dedicated in the Year of the Yellow Rose (1242 DR). 8/10) St. Ramedar's Cloister: Symbol=Rock violet (pale, miniature ground flower). Dedicated in the Year of the Dragon (1352 DR). 9/9) Monastery of St. Domin: Symbol=Mountain daisy (tiny, ochre-yellow ground-crawling flowers). Dedicated in the Year of Maidens (1361 DR). 10/6) Priory of St. Silvyr: Symbol=Tuarlye (blue flower with green highlights indigenous only to the Forest of Tethir). Dedicated in the Year of the Staff (1366 DR)."
Stevenoble 06-03-07, 05:56 PM	Ceck out Unapproachable east - Black Flame Zealots.