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Synopsis
11-21-07, 03:49 PM Does anybody know somthing about the empire of Nethril?
I have been playing the NWN, Shadow's of the Undrentide Campaign and in the game they mantion it. I am looking for more information about this place so i can run my players an advanture there...
Is it a place they made up or an actual empire in Fearun?
Stigger
11-21-07, 05:33 PM you can go here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads) and take a look at Arcane Age: Netheril - Empire of Magic and How the Mighty are Fallen, both cover Netheril.
Old Sage
11-21-07, 06:08 PM See here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=955545).
Lord Karsus
11-22-07, 10:53 AM Does anybody know somthing about the empire of Nethril?
I have been playing the NWN, Shadow's of the Undrentide Campaign and in the game they mantion it. I am looking for more information about this place so i can run my players an advanture there...
Is it a place they made up or an actual empire in Fearun?

-Note that the events that take place in that game are canon now. Well, at least the existence of Undrentide, anyway.
Synopsis
11-22-07, 02:39 PM Thanks a lot for the help everyone, it was exactly what i needed.:D
but i didn't understand the last reply what do you mean about Undrentide?
Lord Karsus
11-22-07, 02:45 PM but i didn't understand the last reply what do you mean about Undrentide?

-The existence of the Undrentide enclave is now canon. It wasn't before. A Grand History of the Realms showed it on a map of Netheril, so it's canon. However, I'm not sure if the events that take place during the game are canon. I don't think that AGHotR mentions any of that, so it might not be canon.
The Ubbergeek
11-23-07, 03:00 PM Don't worry about Canon too much... This is a roleplaying game, and there can't be really an heavy canon due to the very openess of our hobby.
Lord Karsus
11-23-07, 10:56 PM Don't worry about Canon too much... This is a roleplaying game, and there can't be really an heavy canon due to the very openess of our hobby.

-Sure there can, and there is. The Realms, as a whole, is very canon-centric. That allows it to have a complex and diverse storyline and history.
MerrikCale
11-23-07, 11:01 PM -Sure there can, and there is. The Realms, as a whole, is very canon-centric. That allows it to have a complex and diverse storyline and history.

I agree with LK. The canon-heavy aspect of the setting is what sets it apart from the others. There is a sense of "shared" history with other campaigns and novels
Lord Karsus
11-23-07, 11:38 PM I agree with LK. The canon-heavy aspect of the setting is what sets it apart from the others. There is a sense of "shared" history with other campaigns and novels

-Nicely said.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-24-07, 06:15 PM Yes and no. WotC needs to have a "canon" Realms, but how much a player/DM/fan wants to follow "canon" is up to them. Of course, how much one can divert from "canon" and be true to the setting is subjective--believe it or not I have read posts by people who say if you diverge at all from the official timeline, you aren't playing in the Realms anymore (:rolleyes: ).
MarkusTay63
11-24-07, 08:43 PM I change MY Realms a LOT, but I don't like BIG changes to the official Realms, because it makes it harder for people to adapt it all to their own home campaigns - thats why the majority of campaigns out there right now are set anywhere from 3-15 years in the past - too much is happening in the current period (1372-75 DR) for people to adapt quickly enough.

I'm the only person I knew of that was running his games ahead - originally in 1385, and then in 1390 when the 3e came out - I prefer to stay ahead of the game, but thats just me. :cool:

Now I'm screwed... :(

I was always able to fit new events into MY FR's past, but with the events of 1385 I've obviously gone down a completely different timeline.

In a way though, it's liberating. ;)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-24-07, 10:26 PM In a way though, it's liberating. ;)

Oh, I couldn't agree more.
Zsych
11-25-07, 03:56 PM Shadows of Undrentide had Karsus suffering in the 9th Hell(and statted as a level drained 15th level wizard :) )
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
11-25-07, 05:36 PM Shadows of Undrentide had Karsus suffering in the 9th Hell(and statted as a level drained 15th level wizard :) )

True...but not the whole truth:

Remember how you meet that Karsus by going inside of a philosophical book? The Karsus the PC meets was mostly likely not THE Karsus, but the Karsus being used as an example in a philosophical argument in the book. By rewriting that argument, you change Karsus's fate.

The Karsus in SoU was nothing more than a literary construction, as were the characters from the "romantic" novel you can travel into.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Synopsis 11-21-07, 03:49 PM	Does anybody know somthing about the empire of Nethril? I have been playing the NWN, Shadow's of the Undrentide Campaign and in the game they mantion it. I am looking for more information about this place so i can run my players an advanture there... Is it a place they made up or an actual empire in Fearun?
Stigger 11-21-07, 05:33 PM	you can go here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads) and take a look at Arcane Age: Netheril - Empire of Magic and How the Mighty are Fallen, both cover Netheril.
Old Sage 11-21-07, 06:08 PM	See here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=955545).
Lord Karsus 11-22-07, 10:53 AM	Does anybody know somthing about the empire of Nethril? I have been playing the NWN, Shadow's of the Undrentide Campaign and in the game they mantion it. I am looking for more information about this place so i can run my players an advanture there... Is it a place they made up or an actual empire in Fearun? -Note that the events that take place in that game are canon now. Well, at least the existence of Undrentide, anyway.
Synopsis 11-22-07, 02:39 PM	Thanks a lot for the help everyone, it was exactly what i needed.:D but i didn't understand the last reply what do you mean about Undrentide?
Lord Karsus 11-22-07, 02:45 PM	but i didn't understand the last reply what do you mean about Undrentide? -The existence of the Undrentide enclave is now canon. It wasn't before. A Grand History of the Realms showed it on a map of Netheril, so it's canon. However, I'm not sure if the events that take place during the game are canon. I don't think that AGHotR mentions any of that, so it might not be canon.
The Ubbergeek 11-23-07, 03:00 PM	Don't worry about Canon too much... This is a roleplaying game, and there can't be really an heavy canon due to the very openess of our hobby.
Lord Karsus 11-23-07, 10:56 PM	Don't worry about Canon too much... This is a roleplaying game, and there can't be really an heavy canon due to the very openess of our hobby. -Sure there can, and there is. The Realms, as a whole, is very canon-centric. That allows it to have a complex and diverse storyline and history.
MerrikCale 11-23-07, 11:01 PM	-Sure there can, and there is. The Realms, as a whole, is very canon-centric. That allows it to have a complex and diverse storyline and history. I agree with LK. The canon-heavy aspect of the setting is what sets it apart from the others. There is a sense of "shared" history with other campaigns and novels
Lord Karsus 11-23-07, 11:38 PM	I agree with LK. The canon-heavy aspect of the setting is what sets it apart from the others. There is a sense of "shared" history with other campaigns and novels -Nicely said.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-24-07, 06:15 PM	Yes and no. WotC needs to have a "canon" Realms, but how much a player/DM/fan wants to follow "canon" is up to them. Of course, how much one can divert from "canon" and be true to the setting is subjective--believe it or not I have read posts by people who say if you diverge at all from the official timeline, you aren't playing in the Realms anymore (:rolleyes: ).
MarkusTay63 11-24-07, 08:43 PM	I change MY Realms a LOT, but I don't like BIG changes to the official Realms, because it makes it harder for people to adapt it all to their own home campaigns - thats why the majority of campaigns out there right now are set anywhere from 3-15 years in the past - too much is happening in the current period (1372-75 DR) for people to adapt quickly enough. I'm the only person I knew of that was running his games ahead - originally in 1385, and then in 1390 when the 3e came out - I prefer to stay ahead of the game, but thats just me. :cool: Now I'm screwed... :( I was always able to fit new events into MY FR's past, but with the events of 1385 I've obviously gone down a completely different timeline. In a way though, it's liberating. ;)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-24-07, 10:26 PM	In a way though, it's liberating. ;) Oh, I couldn't agree more.
Zsych 11-25-07, 03:56 PM	Shadows of Undrentide had Karsus suffering in the 9th Hell(and statted as a level drained 15th level wizard :) )
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-25-07, 05:36 PM	Shadows of Undrentide had Karsus suffering in the 9th Hell(and statted as a level drained 15th level wizard :) ) True...but not the whole truth: Remember how you meet that Karsus by going inside of a philosophical book? The Karsus the PC meets was mostly likely not THE Karsus, but the Karsus being used as an example in a philosophical argument in the book. By rewriting that argument, you change Karsus's fate. The Karsus in SoU was nothing more than a literary construction, as were the characters from the "romantic" novel you can travel into.