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Jhiroth 10-15-07, 05:51 PM	From the Lords of Darkness sourcebook, page 86, second paragraph from the bottom, right side - "Expeditions from the City of Shade are exploring some previously unknown ruins in the vicinity of Anauroch." Does anyone know if this site has been revealed?
Lord Karsus 10-15-07, 11:50 PM	-That could be referring to any of the numerous Netherese ruins that lie in the Anauroch- anything from a minor outpost to an entire enclave.
Red_Wizard 10-16-07, 01:18 PM	IIRC, don't they have the ruins they are exploring statted out in that same book?
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 10-16-07, 07:41 PM	-That could be referring to any of the numerous Netherese ruins that lie in the Anauroch- anything from a minor outpost to an entire enclave. Also, in Faerun there tend to be "unknown ruins" all over the place.:)
Lord Karsus 10-16-07, 11:06 PM	Also, in Faerun there tend to be "unknown ruins" all over the place.:) -Well, these Realms aren't Forgotten for nothing, you know!
Stigger 10-17-07, 01:18 AM	Pity they probably won't forget to publish the horrendous crap that is shaping up to be 4e... Sorry, cheap shot, couldn't resist...
Lord Karsus 10-17-07, 11:03 AM	Pity they probably won't forget to publish the horrendous crap that is shaping up to be 4e... Sorry, cheap shot, couldn't resist... -Well, some of it looks good...from a certain point of view...sometimes...maybe.
Sol_Odlanier 10-17-07, 03:11 PM	-Well, some of it looks good...from a certain point of view...sometimes...maybe. Or not......
Stigger 10-17-07, 05:33 PM	Mostly not for me... only seen one or two things for the whole of 4e that have made me think it might be worth it to switch over... and I can't even recall what those were offhand really... so I'm thinking 3/3.5e for me for the foreseeable future.
Lord Karsus 10-17-07, 11:59 PM	Or not...... -Yeah, or not.
cheyne_daak 10-18-07, 08:59 AM	"Expeditions from the City of Shade are exploring some previously unknown ruins in the vicinity of Anauroch." It is also said, in Underdark, that shades explore ruins (of a city, if my memories are good enough) under Araumycos.
1 ton ghost 10-18-07, 03:39 PM	yeah, they are incredibly industrious and working their asses off to get back to their "glory days" and all that. they have alot to lose so it's imperative they pull out all the stops. many are conspiring against them actively, but they aren't the garden variety villains like Thay (of old) or Zhentil Keep. that is, they skirmish w/ the Zhents for control of the Black Road (they did claim all of Anauroch i thought), have "extermination squads" vs. phaerrim (can't be all the bad, a service to the planet) and so on. a more contemporary form of antagonists. i like. a nice addition from 2nd ed. good writing. creative, fresh. but, Shar and everything. you know. i read they raised another city. what's up w/ that? do they have extraterritoriality? are they recognized as a nation? borders, etc? some illumination here please. the LoD citing is just an inspecific plot hook to whet the PC's whistles. consider it a generic adventure device, nothign more.
Lord Karsus 10-18-07, 07:30 PM	i read they raised another city. what's up w/ that? do they have extraterritoriality? are they recognized as a nation? borders, etc? some illumination here please. -Yes, the city of Sakkors. As for the rest...Well, it's not settled yet. Shade has only been around for 3 years now. Once the 4e FRCS comes out, with a 10-100 year time gap, we'll see for sure.
Zsych 10-22-07, 03:19 AM	Nation of Netheril... 100+ enclaves. 100+ Archwizards(with support)... and possibly Cormanthyr/Evermeet as one of the other major nations. Hmmmm....... eh LK? Does that make you anticipate 4E more? The forces of Netheril led by the Archwizard Szych matched against the elven mongrels led by their new Coronal Lord Karmus :P
Lord Karsus 10-22-07, 12:10 PM	Nation of Netheril... 100+ enclaves. 100+ Archwizards(with support)... and possibly Cormanthyr/Evermeet as one of the other major nations. Hmmmm....... eh LK? Does that make you anticipate 4E more? -Not really. I'd actually dread the coming changes a little more, if that were all true. The forces of Netheril led by the Archwizard Szych matched against the elven mongrels led by their new Coronal Lord Karmus :P -I believe that is called 'Armageddon'. :) (What a battle it would be, though)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 10-22-07, 01:16 PM	I take it LK is more of an individualist.:)
Lord Karsus 10-22-07, 03:27 PM	I take it LK is more of an individualist.:) -Well, it's not necessarily that, but if what ZSych just said actually becomes a canon storyline...:nonono:
Stigger 10-24-07, 06:14 PM	It's called protecting his place in history... someone else could rise to challenge his greatness and all that. Can't allow that to happen, now can we? ;) :D
Lord Karsus 10-25-07, 12:46 PM	It's called protecting his place in history... someone else could rise to challenge his greatness and all that. Can't allow that to happen, now can we? ;) :D -Well, with the new 4e magic system, it's looking more and more like casting a 12th level spell isn't anything special anymore...:raincloud "Blast you, youngins'. Back in the day, I cast a 12th level spell when it actually meant somethin'!"
Sakurafire 10-29-07, 03:40 PM	-Well, with the new 4e magic system, it's looking more and more like casting a 12th level spell isn't anything special anymore... Actually with 4th edition doing anything isn't going to be special anymore because they're shaping it around anything a player can do is special. Fighters will be shooting fireballs out of their eyes at level 1 soon enough.
SgtAnjay 10-31-07, 10:31 AM	Actually with 4th edition doing anything isn't going to be special anymore because they're shaping it around anything a player can do is special. Fighters will be shooting fireballs out of their eyes at level 1 soon enough.Nah..... That probably wont happen till at least 5.5
Lord Karsus 10-31-07, 12:47 PM	Actually with 4th edition doing anything isn't going to be special anymore because they're shaping it around anything a player can do is special. Fighters will be shooting fireballs out of their eyes at level 1 soon enough. -Don't know nothing about that. I'm not planning to convert, so I'm not really following the 'evolution' of the rule set. But, it that's true...Well, that's not cool.
18DELTA 11-01-07, 03:38 AM	Nah, 4E fighters will be shooting fireballs out their :censored: :eek: Lets also not forget the City of Opus(Selunarra) that was saved by the Grace of the Moon Maiden, in LEoF.;) Them returning to Faerun would put a damper on what the Shades got going on. Maybe the reborn Netheril is Opus? Maybe the spellplague kicks the Shades rear end?;)
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 11-01-07, 10:22 AM	Nah, 4E fighters will be shooting fireballs out their :censored: :eek: Lets also not forget the City of Opus(Selunarra) that was saved by the Grace of the Moon Maiden, in LEoF.;) Them returning to Faerun would put a damper on what the Shades got going on. Maybe the reborn Netheril is Opus? Maybe the spellplague kicks the Shades rear end?;) I don't know, the prologue in The Orc King implies that the new Empire of Netheril is a bad thing for the world.
MarkusTay63 11-01-07, 11:46 AM	There's another surviving enclave*, but they're not quite 'human' anymore.... Someday I will put up the story of the lost Nautilus Enclave... When I figure out where it would be appropriate. And BTW, Karsus, we find out it wasn't entirely YOUR fault... you were set-up. ;) *Everything in this post refers to a creation of my own, and is in no way canon.
Lord Karsus 11-03-07, 07:53 PM	And BTW, Karsus, we find out it wasn't entirely YOUR fault... you were set-up. ;) -Aren't I always? Hrumph...
Zsych 11-10-07, 04:27 PM	I've always thought that Karsus periodic bouts of insanity should be linked to Shar somewhat. ~Sage at Candlekeep in the year 4973 NME(New Magical Age): "According to the new classification of magic we have devised in order to more properly categorize spells we use today.. which we have placed in a list of levels 1-30. The spell created by Karsus to strip Mystryl of her divinity could not have been less than oh say... 497 at maximum optimization. If it were cast with an ordinary wizard's finesse lacking absolute mastery of all disciplines in magic, it would more likely be a spell in the level 900s or so" ~ :P
Lord Karsus 11-11-07, 05:32 PM	I've always thought that Karsus periodic bouts of insanity should be linked to Shar somewhat. ~Sage at Candlekeep in the year 4973 NME(New Magical Age): "According to the new classification of magic we have devised in order to more properly categorize spells we use today.. which we have placed in a list of levels 1-30. The spell created by Karsus to strip Mystryl of her divinity could not have been less than oh say... 497 at maximum optimization. If it were cast with an ordinary wizard's finesse lacking absolute mastery of all disciplines in magic, it would more likely be a spell in the level 900s or so" ~ :P -That's more like it!
nestorius 11-13-07, 12:57 PM	From the Lords of Darkness sourcebook, page 86, second paragraph from the bottom, right side - "Expeditions from the City of Shade are exploring some previously unknown ruins in the vicinity of Anauroch." Does anyone know if this site has been revealed? Maybe I am in late but: IIRC : The city is Ascore, a dwarven port city of old Netheril, detailed (notsomuch) in some old 2nd Edition Supplement (maybe: the savage frontier)... They also are scouting every Netherese ruin they know of for magical treasures. Hope this could help.