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| OleOneEye01-21-08, 01:08 AM | Is there any particular reason why the main road west does not connect Iriaebor and Scornubel? |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-21-08, 06:27 PM | Is there any particular reason why the main road west does not connect Iriaebor and Scornubel? What map are you looking at? |
| MarkusTay6301-22-08, 02:47 AM | They're connected, but in a round-about way - http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/MarkusTay/North_Piece.jpg |
| Lord Karsus01-22-08, 07:50 AM | -It's likely that trading caravans and whatever heading from Scornubel to Iriaebor travel by boat. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-22-08, 01:15 PM | Indeed, the river is probably the reason why those cities aren't connected by a main road. |
| 18DELTA01-22-08, 01:23 PM | -It's likely that trading caravans and whatever heading from Scornubel to Iriaebor travel by boat. -:teach: :emp: :teach: LORD DIRTY DELTA;) :P :D |
| Lord Karsus01-22-08, 01:24 PM | -:teach: :emp: :teach: -Yes, I have my moments every so often. |
| MarkusTay6301-22-08, 11:54 PM | -It's likely that trading caravans and whatever heading from Scornubel to Iriaebor travel by boat.I'm thinking Halfling River barge. :P ;) |
| OleOneEye01-23-08, 02:33 AM | Scornubel is termed the Caravan City - so presumably lots of caravans come and go from the place. It seems they would have to take a rather roundabout manner to hit the Trader's Road. I assume more trade goes through the Dragon Coast than through Cormyr, and so, would be a more profitable trip than going through the mountain passes to Cormyr. This would make a straight shot to Iriaebor quite important, as that city dominates the inland trade to and from the Dragon Coast. Scornubel is also noted as having costers from all nations. Presumably, the River Chionthar is navigable from the ocean up to that point. Goods are disembarked at Scornubel and shipped inland - all the better for it being termed the Caravan City. But, Elturel is geographically better positioned to take advantage of any such trade from Triel northward - especially given Elturel's safety. Thus, for Scornubel to be a major part of the Chionthar traffic, it has to capitalize on trade going eastward - thus to Iriaebor. Barges are noted as being able to go as far upriver as Iriaebor. It appears that most trade between the cities would utilize such. I would suspect that most trade in Scornubel actually consists of moving goods from barges to costers, and vice versa. However, that makes it oddly named as the Caravan City. Mostly, it just looks kinda odd that the road does not connect the two, or rather, does so in a roundabout way. Blazing the way to lay a straight road between the two cities sounds like a good premise for an adventure. |
| MarkusTay6301-23-08, 02:39 AM | I'd go through Berdusk, and then swing north for that. There always the risk on running into pesky Elves when you cut through a forest. :P |
| Lord Karsus01-23-08, 06:52 AM | Mostly, it just looks kinda odd that the road does not connect the two, or rather, does so in a roundabout way. Blazing the way to lay a straight road between the two cities sounds like a good premise for an adventure. -You'd then have to build another bridge connecting the road to Scornubel, and then clear a path through the Reaching Woods. It's probably much more cost effective to both governments to simply load up their caravans on boats, and send them downstream, rather than worrying about creating, maintaining and protecting roads. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-23-08, 09:53 AM | Indeed, and you wouldn't have to deal with the denizens of the Reaching Woods who prefer that their woods be left alone. |
| The_Shaman01-23-08, 12:24 PM | I think you missed the quotation marks around "prefer", dear Rynonalyrna ;) . |
| MarkusTay6301-23-08, 01:31 PM | In retrospect, this would probably be the best route to go - http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/MarkusTay/North_Piece2.jpg There's already a road through the woods there, and the PC's can make some coin by setting up an Inn/Caravansari at the new crossroads. |
| Lord Karsus01-23-08, 01:39 PM | In retrospect, this would probably be the best route to go - -Hey, that is pretty simple. I was just envisioning a roa going straight through, but that works. |
| MarkusTay6301-23-08, 02:23 PM | I still like the idea of Halfling River Barges - just basically humongus rafts - poling there way down the River, whilst the small folk belt out songs in deep, baritone voices. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-23-08, 06:26 PM | I think you missed the quotation marks around "prefer", dear Rynonalyrna ;) . Heh. But it looks like they did allow a road to be put in.:) |
| Lord Karsus01-24-08, 12:31 AM | Heh. But it looks like they did allow a road to be put in.:) -Maybe not allow, but in the end, a road there is. |
| OleOneEye01-24-08, 02:33 AM | I still like the idea of Halfling River Barges - just basically humongus rafts - poling there way down the River, whilst the small folk belt out songs in deep, baritone voices. A halfling monopoly on river traffic is exactly the type of thing that would spur economic interests to seek alternate routes. Though I envision barges to be more of the banana-shaped medieval hulk variety, with halflings skittering about them in a buzz of seemingly useless activity much like insects. |
| MarkusTay6301-24-08, 02:35 AM | But in 4e, we're getting 'Tom Sawyer' type Halflings. :P |
| OleOneEye01-24-08, 04:16 AM | Ya' be meanin' Huck Finn. Unless'n dem ha'flins are a talkin' folks inta paintin' fences. Guess'n dem ha'flins coulda be doin' dat too. |
| Lord Karsus01-24-08, 09:03 AM | A halfling monopoly on river traffic is exactly the type of thing that would spur economic interests to seek alternate routes. Though I envision barges to be more of the banana-shaped medieval hulk variety, with halflings skittering about them in a buzz of seemingly useless activity much like insects. -A gang of mean spirited, robber Halflings...Scary. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-24-08, 11:07 AM | Well, W&M did mention "ruthless halfling pirates" at one point, although most halflings wouldn't be like that. R&C mentions that halflings have kept their particular culture for for thousands of years--they are travelling merchants and they have ways of communicating with others of their kind (via birds and other animals). They aren't just aimless drifters. |
| 18DELTA01-24-08, 11:16 AM | But in 4e, we're getting 'Tom Sawyer' type Halflings. :P -Thanks MT63 now I got the 'Rush' song 'Tom Saywer' in my HEAD!!!;) :P :D I kinda like the fact that they are now 'Swamp Rats' at least they are not 'Shire Folk' any more.:rolleyes: DELTA:plotting: |
| Lord Karsus01-24-08, 11:18 AM | Well, W&M did mention "ruthless halfling pirates" at one point, although most halflings wouldn't be like that. -The novel The Yellow Silk features a ruthless Halfling pirate, complete with (Dire) boar companion. Go figure. It was ahead of it's time. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-24-08, 12:16 PM | -The novel The Yellow Silk features a ruthless Halfling pirate, complete with (Dire) boar companion. Go figure. It was ahead of it's time. That was definitely a good villain.:) Also, proof that halflings can be scary. |
| MarkusTay6301-25-08, 12:57 AM | R&C mentions that halflings have kept their particular culture for for thousands of years--they are travelling merchants and they have ways of communicating with others of their kind (via birds and other animals). They aren't just aimless drifters.Sounds similar to gypsies, RL's Vistani, or the Tinkers from WoT. That might work fairly well in the 4e world, if their homeland (Luiren) was destroyed, their could be bands of these guys traveling all around Faerūn a hundred years later. -Thanks MT63 now I got the 'Rush' song 'Tom Saywer' in my HEAD!!! Good song. :D Now all WotC needs to do is create another one of those atrocious podcasts featuring the new halflings, and have THAT SONG playing in the background. :dancin: |
| Lord Karsus01-25-08, 08:39 AM | Now all WotC needs to do is create another one of those atrocious podcasts featuring the new halflings, and have THAT SONG playing in the background. :dancin: -I wonder if the backlash it recieved is the reason why there haven't been any more animations like that. I was under the assumption that there would be a few, explaining and/or highlighting various changes from 3e to 4e. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-25-08, 01:25 PM | -I wonder if the backlash it recieved is the reason why there haven't been any more animations like that. I was under the assumption that there would be a few, explaining and/or highlighting various changes from 3e to 4e. Same here. Although, the next cartoon may just be late in coming. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-25-08, 01:26 PM | Sounds similar to gypsies, RL's Vistani, or the Tinkers from WoT. That might work fairly well in the 4e world, if their homeland (Luiren) was destroyed, their could be bands of these guys traveling all around Faerūn a hundred years later. I was wondering the same thing (wouldn't be surprised if they did that). Anyway, I already have ideas for making a halfling character for the 4E "core world".:) |
| Lord Karsus01-25-08, 02:07 PM | Same here. Although, the next cartoon may just be late in coming. -Well, the clock is ticking... |
| Khaelieth01-25-08, 03:59 PM | Righr, I may be smashed, and my "I" may not be workiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing consistentky, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut... Gurs anyone? |
| Lord Karsus01-25-08, 04:02 PM | Righr, I may be smashed, and my "I" may not be workiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing consistentky, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut... Gurs anyone? -That is, perhaps, without question, the most eloquent post on the subject. |
| MarkusTay6301-26-08, 10:44 AM | Righr, I may be smashed, and my "I" may not be workiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing consistentky, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut... Gurs anyone?Gurs? I don't get it? :confused: You could always use the on-screen keyboard in Windows/Accessories. ;) About the podcasts: Wouldn't it be great if they saved the money on those useless animations and used it to provide creative content instead... Too far fetched, eh? :rolleyes: |
| Khaelieth01-26-08, 11:59 AM | Gurs - the Gypsies of Faerūn. Man, was l smashed yesterday! Starting drinking at 2 is a bad idea! |
| MarkusTay6301-26-08, 12:52 PM | Ummmm... where is that from? :confused: I have the Gurs pegged as the proto-race responsible for Netherese, Uthgardt, Rengardt, Tunlanders, The Ride barbarians, etc... Something in my research must be askew. :uh-huh: |
| Lord Karsus01-26-08, 06:18 PM | About the podcasts: Wouldn't it be great if they saved the money on those useless animations and used it to provide creative content instead... Too far fetched, eh? :rolleyes: -Eh, is an extra twenty dollars or so going to suddenly make everyone more creative? At least the animations have the potential to be funny. Which would you rather see, anyway? An animated 'commercial', or another live action one with the Design Crew? Man, was l smashed yesterday! Starting drinking at 2 is a bad idea! -Really? I didn't notice. You did create a cool word, though: "consistentky". It has potential. Keep it up, and one day, you may find yourself as the editor of the Scrabble Dictionary. :) |
| Khaelieth01-26-08, 06:28 PM | Page 106, Races of Faerūn. |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-26-08, 07:20 PM | Which would you rather see, anyway? An animated 'commercial', or another live action one with the Design Crew? Your point is very well taken. |
| Lord Karsus01-26-08, 07:24 PM | Your point is very well taken. -I tell you, if I see Chris Perkins' bald head one more time! :P |
| Rinonalyrna Fathomlin01-26-08, 07:40 PM | -I tell you, if I see Chris Perkins' bald head one more time! :P Or another fake French accent... |
| MarkusTay6301-27-08, 12:29 AM | Or worse, one with all those large hairy men! :eek: That GenCon pic looked like a family portrait belonging to Beorn. :P Page 106, Races of Faerūn.Ahhh... Okay, that works. Forgot about that entry, but I did reference it when doing my cultural history of Faerūn. I think most people pretend that book doesn't exist - its incorrect in so many places as to be considered nearly non-canon. The Gur did come from Rashemen... and beyond. ;) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/MarkusTay/Tuigan_Tribes.jpg |