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Charles Phipps 04-22-08, 12:54 PM	With the switch to 4E, we have a lot of canonical NPCs who will have either met their final fate by simple old age or have gone on to great things or low things in the resulting 100 year Dark Age. Basically, rather than wait on WOTC describing it all, please share your non-canon versions of "Whatever happened to THAT guy."
The_Wrath_of_Talos 04-28-08, 02:06 PM	1. Elminster becomes the new God of magic. 2. Bane dies and comes back again. 3. Lolth returns her children to the surface. 4. Talos becomes a more significant God and will hopefully be written about more. 5. Mulhorandi becomes the new center of attention with books based around its expansion into Unther and possibly Thay. 6. Pwent becomes king of Mithril Hall. 7. Cale steals Karsus essence from Shar and goes on too attempt a ritual to bring Karsus back from the dead. 8. Karsus battles Elminster for control of the weave. 9. Dritzzt goes into a deep depression after all of his friends die and he realizes that hes a fool for trusting and working for orcs. 10.Kanaar Vhok manages to stop that mad priest of Cyric. Just some ideas, criticism is more then expected.
LittleCarp04 04-28-08, 05:36 PM	Someone ANYONE finally realizes that Kara-Tur and Maztica need be mapped and explored. It happens. Everyone is happy because that is where Forgotten Realms 3.5 moved to.
Lord Karsus 04-28-08, 10:10 PM	Someone ANYONE finally realizes that Kara-Tur and Maztica need be mapped and explored. -Kara-Tur and Maztica are both already mapped. See the Kara-Tur and Maztica Boxed Sets, respectivley.
Charles Phipps 04-28-08, 10:58 PM	Arilyn marries Danillo. Danillo becomes the Blackstaff. :-)
sfdragon 04-29-08, 05:00 AM	ravencloak sits back in his easychair laughing his head off. elaith meets his son his daughter activates the moonblade leaving elaith's jaw on the floor( as in jaw dropping not silced off)
MarkusTay63 04-29-08, 11:50 AM	Alusair dissapears into the Stonelands... only to re-emerge a hundred years later (she somehow re-activated the magic of the 'Sleeping Lords', and put herself in sasis). Not that farfetched, really - the last known canon appearance of her does have her 'taking off to parts unknown'. Her and Vangy (in his new form) secretly start pulling strings in the kingdom from behind the scenes, becoming 'phantoms' of their legendary selves. As for Azoun (yeah.. I know he's dead, but this is MY fantasy, afterall) - When the 'Spellstorm' appears on the horizon to the south, sweeping up from the Vilhon Reach (heading straight for Suzail and the vast repository of magic there), a ghostly image of Azoun is seen standing on the shore. Drawing his sword, he holds it out before him in defiance. The Spellstorm slams into his blade and disperses to the east and west (and some up and over), and as the violent energies spill over his spiritual form, it begins to waver and break apart, but it never falters as the massive waves of magical backlash wash over him. In the end, his very soul is shattered into a thousand thousand pieces, but he has fulfilled one final duty to the kingdom he so loved - Cormyr is spared the worst of the Spellplague. Arilyn marries Danillo. Danillo becomes the Blackstaff. :-)I picture a Turmish Wizard who is handy at Charms taking the title... but then again, I'm a sick bast__d. :P
Green Elven Vampire 05-02-08, 01:06 AM	Erevan Ilesere remains Erevan Ilesere.
sfdragon 05-02-08, 04:37 AM	the lovely fox at twilight survives and plays the ultimate mortal prank, making eravan laugh
Khaelieth 05-02-08, 06:46 AM	Drizzt cuts his wrists a bit too much and slices his hands off. Later beaten up by goblins. Mystryl's reborn from the Divine Sparks she's left floating around. The Spellplague reboots parts of Faerûn, recreating the Dark Seldarine. The memory of Lolth's Silence is removed. All the fey'ri are brought back as well. Myth Drannor gets hammered to dust-sized particles. Then gets hit by a meteor. Then gets attacked by a bunch of rabid dire badgers. Any memory of the resettlement of Myth Drannor is wiped from the hard drive. Bane steal's Ao's external hard drive, only to realise it's full of pr0n. Uses this to control the masses. Kymil and Elaith survive. Join up with the 4 Sons of Vyshan to recreate Vyshantaar.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 05-02-08, 06:10 PM	The Spellplague never happened. Various pre-4E events that I dislike never happened either. The end.
SmartPaladin 05-04-08, 03:05 AM	The Spellplague never happened. Various pre-4E events that I dislike never happened either. The end. But we can keep the Swordmages? Right? Please? Why yes, I am looking forward to the book "Swordmage", why do you ask? :P
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 05-04-08, 08:10 PM	But we can keep the Swordmages? Right? Please? That's up to you, not me.:) I have no quarrel with 4E mechanics, only the changes to the Realms setting.
SmartPaladin 05-05-08, 03:37 AM	That's up to you, not me.:) I have no quarrel with 4E mechanics, only the changes to the Realms setting. Well, the Swordmages did come from those War Wizards of Cormyr who didn't die, but lost some of their touch of magic... I don't like messing with classes back stories to much.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 05-05-08, 01:20 PM	Well, the Swordmages did come from those War Wizards of Cormyr who didn't die, but lost some of their touch of magic... I don't like messing with classes back stories to much. That's one possible way to introduce a class into the setting, but certainly not the only way.
SmartPaladin 05-07-08, 05:20 PM	That's one possible way to introduce a class into the setting, but certainly not the only way. This is true... Hmm...
Lord_Kranthor 05-07-08, 11:17 PM	The Seven spend a little bit of time to create some sexy bodies for Sylune in which each body has a small piece of her cottage located under the skin. Each body is different size, shape, race, and age thus allowing Sylune to immediate transport her ghostly essence into most parts of Toril at a moments notice thus enhancing the Harpers influence and abilty to wreak havoc upon the evil intentions of the 'really bad guys...'. Thus sparking some intelligent insightful writings that display what could happen if you get a growing group of super-powered, god's blessed, individuals that sat down for 2 minutes and thought 'Hmmm, what could we accomplish is we put our powers to use proactively instead of sitting stagnent waiting to react to an adversary. Oh yeah, WotC learns a lesson from the DragonLance series in which the readers let them know that messing with what made the series popular and fun to begin with will not be allowed (thus forcing them to revoke the madness of 4E)
sfdragon 05-07-08, 11:55 PM	sylune has left dweomerheart though... so now there are 6 soon to be 5, as miss veledorn is either going to die or be disowned...... and then there will be 5. laeral will go briefly mad, and have 5 more children alustriel will go briefly madd and rendered unconcious from a lavender-eyed half-drow son the symbul will go briefly mad and kill some of her apprentices storm will be slain battling red wizards Dove will die of old age in myth drannor and be burried under a statue dedicate to the knights of myth drannor. Regis will actually get married 5 years from when we saw him last, only to die after his first born T. pwent goes down fighting( really now what did you expect with him) the gutbuster brigade aquiress new mis-management Bruenor battlehammer retires and his son succeeds him as the 11th king of mythril hall Wulfgar dies outside of luskan thunderspells goes mad and creates a new spell called thunderburp Obould mannyarrows is assasinated 15 years later by Obould the 2nd Obould Manny arrows's soul is stolen by mask as a joke Obould the 2nd is killed in battle and Obould the third is put on the throne Obould the 3rd reigns for 5 years, dies trying to outdrink himself Obould IV dissapears from view, secretly leaves for icewind dale. Obould V the bandit slayer makes name for himself by killing alquer the dark a vampire rogue from kara-tur Obould V dies from black lotus abbuse obould the 6th takes thrown, only to be killed by mate Obould Mannyarrow's soul is reincarnated as Obould the 7th proving once and for all that Mask has a since of humor Obould the 7th takes thrown, and reminds all of whereever that what is Obould ARtemis Entreri retires, after being black mailed to rescue that half-elf over a child, his own.(oh that would be ironic ) Jarlaxle under a shapechange spell leaks that artemis has a son, to local barkeep news of entrir's child reaches ear of artemis, which leads to above Jarlaxle Semi-retires, and never returns to the city of the spider queen His Mercenary band states screw underdark politics, denounces lolth, and starts officially as a mercenary band and merchant guards bring more profits then ever, many of group join the faith of waukeen Gromph disappears along with his tower, causing much unrest in menzob..... Triel beanre dies from birth complications from her 8th child, a male child with green eyes.... lireal beanre goes insane at the death of her god and flings herself off a cliff to join the false in the fugeplane. Kluath aka old snarl dies after spell battleing Larloch Larloch wears a new dragonskin robe. Ulcaster during the spellplague is restored to life.
SmartPaladin 05-08-08, 03:35 AM	lireal beanre goes insane at the death of her god and flings herself off a cliff to join the false in the fugeplane. If I recall, that wasn't really that uncommon when a Cleric/Paladin's patron dies...
sfdragon 05-08-08, 04:33 AM	ah but when Mystra dies her plane blows up, so where is she to go? gates of the moon? arvandor? demonweb pits? where?
SmartPaladin 05-08-08, 06:05 PM	ah but when Mystra dies her plane blows up, so where is she to go? gates of the moon? arvandor? demonweb pits? where? Were ever worshiper who lost their deity and never took up another go. Into the Wall. Unless some other Deity takes pity on them... Maybe Eilistraee will come for her, stopping Kelemvor and telling him that she and Mystra shared a chosen, so there would be no real reason why she would be unable to take Lireal. Which would probably make him far happy then anyone would ever know.
Zireael 05-12-08, 02:59 AM	Alustriel's son. Good! But I don't like Liriel dying. Or Lloth the same. Gromph, Jarlaxle, Artemis are good too. What do you think will happen to Drizzt and Cattie-brie?
ikki 05-12-08, 06:25 AM	nah a halfdrow as king of mithrilhall.. that consists of orcs and dwarves. There is now a peoples council, whom the king must obey.. one that consists almost exclusively of orcs as they vastly outnumber the dwarves. Meanwhile raysist dwarves are leaving for a new home, by dwarves for dwarves.
NoPityForACoward 05-12-08, 12:47 PM	I hope Drizzt lives forever!
erikscottdebie 05-16-08, 12:57 PM	the lovely fox at twilight survives and plays the ultimate mortal prank, making eravan laugh Sorry to intrude in all the doom and gloom . . . but that's so cute. :)
creyzi4zb12 05-16-08, 02:21 PM	I mostly think that it's gonna be a new age of new heroes....throw out the old ones and put in something new...hmmm...maybe some will still stay...but most will die...here are some speculations from creyzi4zb12 -Obould VI/VII - Scro fleet arrive in their kingdom and sell guns...thus we see orcs wid gunz...da boyz!!! - Obould VII will try to create a festival to strengthen orc and dwarven peace...unfortunately it turns out to be bad -Drizzt is now starting a school for drow that wants to be good -Drizzt gets punished by Lloth and turns into a drider -Drizzt the drider becomes a bigger problem for Lloth -A new Azoun is born, and yeah he's bigger and badder...he's somewhat mad and is now trying to invade the dales -Azoun lays siege to the Mithril Hall and DarkArrow with the aid of Vangey and his dragonfriends...omg!! total pawnage!! -Unfortunately with the scro technology and the dwarven futility plus the wood elves trying to help the dales they are able to match Azoun's power. -Allegiance between Azoun the Evil and Szass and forms the Azszass -Zhentil Keep (the new one) joins the Azszass -Dark Arrow, Mithril Hall and the BUTT (Barbarians United through Trouble) makes war with Azszass -Silverymoon and the other neighboring kingdoms don't do anything coz they got problems of their own...particularly the fact about the demons besieging them -Elminster tries to create a time travel spell (return of time travel) Those are some for now....
NoPityForACoward 05-16-08, 09:32 PM	-Drizzt is now starting a school for drow that wants to be good -Drizzt gets punished by Lloth and turns into a drider -Drizzt the drider becomes a bigger problem for Lloth Those are some for now.... Stop:banghead: The only good drow is a dead drow.
SmartPaladin 05-17-08, 04:12 PM	Stop:banghead: The only good drow is a dead drow. You have no idea how much that comment reminded me of my sister... She seems to think all Good Drow are abominations, and that of the whole Drow race, they should die first. I keep telling everyone in our party that she's a violent, blood-thirsty, and I think a few of them are starting to believe me... Granted, I'm a sucker for redemption, so long as you still pay for your crimes.
Mediocrates 05-18-08, 06:41 AM	You have no idea how much that comment reminded me of my sister... She seems to think all Good Drow are abominations, and that of the whole Drow race, they should die first. I keep telling everyone in our party that she's a violent, blood-thirsty, and I think a few of them are starting to believe me... Granted, I'm a sucker for redemption, so long as you still pay for your crimes. The entire drow race has become a single, giant cliché and they need to die. All of them. Even the good ones. Strike that, especially the good ones. They are the worst offenders. Except Jarlaxle, he can stay.
NoPityForACoward 05-18-08, 12:23 PM	The entire drow race has become a single, giant cliché and they need to die. All of them. Even the good ones. Strike that, especially the good ones. They are the worst offenders. Except Jarlaxle, he can stay. You have no idea how much that comment reminded me of my sister... She seems to think all Good Drow are abominations, and that of the whole Drow race, they should die first. I keep telling everyone in our party that she's a violent, blood-thirsty, and I think a few of them are starting to believe me... Granted, I'm a sucker for redemption, so long as you still pay for your crimes. Making me proud, making me proud....Now all we need to do, is get rid of Evris Cale. I can't stand him and Drizzt Do'URRRRden, they are like 12 year old girls: "My friends! Don't harm my friends....friends :) .....FRIENDS!:D ...Oh how I adore my friends;) , where would I be without friends. Stupid elf and shade filth. Did anyone read raod of the patriarch? What happened at the end? Artemis told your beloved Jarlaxell, Mediocrates, to go to hell basically. Those are the only friends you should have. Not emo barbrians, or human women that are illiterate, and half-lings that are completely usless and only slow you down by needing rescue, or a 3ft tall Dwarf that makes me wince everytime I have to over-exert myself to understand his horrible dialogue. I can't wait until Drizzt and Cale meet each other and are having a make out session, because all of you are too blinded by your fanboy pride to see these characters retardedness.
MerrikCale 05-18-08, 12:58 PM	Making me proud, making me proud....Now all we need to do, is get rid of Evris Cale. I can't stand him and Drizzt Do'URRRRden, they are like 12 year old girls: "My friends! Don't harm my friends....friends :) .....FRIENDS!:D ...Oh how I adore my friends;) , where would I be without friends. Stupid elf and shade filth. Did anyone read raod of the patriarch? What happened at the end? Artemis told your beloved Jarlaxell, Mediocrates, to go to hell basically. Those are the only friends you should have. Not emo barbrians, or human women that are illiterate, and half-lings that are completely usless and only slow you down by needing rescue, or a 3ft tall Dwarf that makes me wince everytime I have to over-exert myself to understand his horrible dialogue. I can't wait until Drizzt and Cale meet each other and are having a make out session, because all of you are too blinded by your fanboy pride to see these characters retardedness. au vey. Your friends must be so proud.
NoPityForACoward 05-18-08, 01:44 PM	au vey. Your friends must be so proud. Are you?
SmartPaladin 05-18-08, 04:38 PM	Making me proud, making me proud....Now all we need to do, is get rid of Evris Cale. I can't stand him and Drizzt Do'URRRRden, they are like 12 year old girls: "My friends! Don't harm my friends....friends :) .....FRIENDS!:D ...Oh how I adore my friends;) , where would I be without friends. Stupid elf and shade filth. Did anyone read raod of the patriarch? What happened at the end? Artemis told your beloved Jarlaxell, Mediocrates, to go to hell basically. Those are the only friends you should have. Not emo barbrians, or human women that are illiterate, and half-lings that are completely usless and only slow you down by needing rescue, or a 3ft tall Dwarf that makes me wince everytime I have to over-exert myself to understand his horrible dialogue. I can't wait until Drizzt and Cale meet each other and are having a make out session, because all of you are too blinded by your fanboy pride to see these characters retardedness. There's only one reply that springs to mind to this. *pats cheek* That's nice dear.
MerrikCale 05-18-08, 09:09 PM	Are you? not particularly. To me, Captain America is a much more interesting character than Wolverine
SmartPaladin 05-19-08, 04:09 AM	not particularly. To me, Captain America is a much more interesting character than Wolverine And Deadpool has them both beat. What? I love my psycho, slightly-more-sane, merc with the mouth. :P
Khaelieth 05-19-08, 04:40 PM	Hobbes would still beat all the characters you've mentioned. But for now, i'm with Coward, but i've not read any Erevis Cale. Truely evil characters are far more interesting, such as Artemis. Jarlaxle's also an interesting chap, just don't find good characters interesting enough [in books], unless they've got something unique. Perrin Aybara out of WoT isn't too unique; letting the world burn as long as he's got his wife and such. Elric's a unique character, but not much personality wise. Jack from The Shining (the book, not the film) is a much more believable and interesting character. He's a really nice person, but mix that with a volatile temper and alcoholism yays! But it's all subjective. Might pick up Erevis Cale once i'm done with Catch 22.
MerrikCale 05-19-08, 08:52 PM	And Deadpool has them both beat. What? I love my psycho, slightly-more-sane, merc with the mouth. :P never really like Deadpool. Talk about cliches
dav 05-19-08, 10:42 PM	Hobbes would still beat all the characters you've mentioned. But for now, i'm with Coward, but i've not read any Erevis Cale. Truely evil characters are far more interesting, such as Artemis. Jarlaxle's also an interesting chap, just don't find good characters interesting enough [in books], unless they've got something unique. Perrin Aybara out of WoT isn't too unique; letting the world burn as long as he's got his wife and such. Elric's a unique character, but not much personality wise. Jack from The Shining (the book, not the film) is a much more believable and interesting character. He's a really nice person, but mix that with a volatile temper and alcoholism yays! But it's all subjective. Might pick up Erevis Cale once i'm done with Catch 22. I dont think so. All I could think when reading about Artemis is what an emotionally stunted child he is. really thats all he is. I have a very hard time thinking of that as at all cool or interesting.
Solisces 05-20-08, 10:24 AM	I dont think so. All I could think when reading about Artemis is what an emotionally stunted child he is. really thats all he is. I have a very hard time thinking of that as at all cool or interesting. Yes, but so is Drizzt. Emotionally stunted child, I mean: the character's been stuck in teenager mode forever.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 05-20-08, 11:31 AM	Yes, but so is Drizzt. Emotionally stunted child, I mean: the character's been stuck in teenager mode forever. LOL, true.
dav 05-20-08, 01:11 PM	Yes, but so is Drizzt. Emotionally stunted child, I mean: the character's been stuck in teenager mode forever. Im not a big Drizzt fan either honestly. But at least he made it to the teenage years. Artemis is stuck way back in childhood. When reading about him fighting the half elf girl and its all about how big and scary hes supposed to be, all I could think was how small and sad he was. I dont think the character is cool or interesting, I think hes sad, but maybe thats RAS intent. I dont know. I had high hopes for the Sellswords books because they were a great chance for the character to grow up. There was a little glimmer of that, but not much. Maybe in the future it will happen (or maybe not, 4e Realms and all).
JudgeDookie 05-20-08, 01:21 PM	Im not a big Drizzt fan either honestly. But at least he made it to the teenage years. Artemis is stuck way back in childhood. When reading about him fighting the half elf girl and its all about how big and scary hes supposed to be, all I could think was how small and sad he was. I dont think the character is cool or interesting, I think hes sad, but maybe thats RAS intent. I believe that was exactly the intent.
Lord Karsus 05-20-08, 10:23 PM	au vey. -Oy vey.
MerrikCale 05-20-08, 10:29 PM	-Oy vey. thanks. I try but as an irish-italian american my yiddish may be a little off
Lord Karsus 05-20-08, 10:44 PM	thanks. I try but as an irish-italian american my yiddish may be a little off -I don't have the Irish, but I have the Italian. And American, of course. But, I hear you.
Link182 05-21-08, 01:04 AM	Final fate of the book characters? They reroll Horde
Archmagus_Ioulaum 05-21-08, 01:11 AM	Drizzt and companyTM die horrible deaths. :dancin: Elminster and the seven sisters have a big orgy and over exert themselves thus perishing. The inner sea overflows and the dales are now underwater while manshoon clones activate and run rampant fighting everything in sight before the last one is destroyed by being stabbed in the back by a small female child. :dancin: The last powerful fey'ri opens a portal unleashing a massive othewordly invasion of kobolds against Myth Drannor. The kobolds find portals to other elven lands and wipe the elves from the face of Toril. Yes the kobolds are super duper versions of Torillian kobolds. The true Ioulaum returns from elsewhere laughing about the stupid idea he is an elder brain or some other such drivel. Shakes his head about Karsus for he had high hopes that another could be as great as himself since he still regrets the foolishness of youth. He slaps Larloch around for his stupidity before destroying him. He remakes Netheril. Lord Shadow gets lost within his own shadow after all the stupid things he has done to ruin his people since returning to Toril. Sassy boy for being incredibly arrogant and stupid (regardless of what his stats are) is destroyed by a plan that a child could figure out that was set in motion by Bane. Elminster fractures into a million selves (before dieing in the orgy with the seven sisters) showing many evil doers just how pathetic they are then with a snarky comment or two and smile and a wink he teleports away. Of course evil is spreading! After all it only succeeds verse itself never against the chosens. Woot Woot! Tchazzar looses his divine acendancy abilities during the spellplague and while convulsing a small child stabs him through the eye and deep into his brain with a spear killing him. Did I mention Drizzt and companyTM die?! :dancin: Yes finally the emo groupies die! :dancin: Muahahahahaha......................oh yeah and the chosen die as well along with thier whole farting rainbows and ******** butterflys while being in a softcore erotica movie. Blah doodoo gooders. The pink princess aka Alusairhead and her male groupies diseapper only to reappear a hundred or so years later still staring in their own traveling killing and orgying mob and Suzail is renamed Rome and all roads lead to getting laidville aka Romemyr! :dancin: Jaraxle and his human "friend" get all rainbows and butterflys, end up in each others arms, and move to Sans Friscy-o. Arilyn becomes a nun since she is already one while Danny boy realizes just how great he has it and that their are tons of actually goodlooking women in the world that he can have and runs off to join in actually haveing some fun! Fzoul the dumbest and lamest evil character everTM sits on a privvy and some small child sticks him through his ass with a spear becoming some small child the impalerTM. :dancin: I could go on. Ever since the fall of Netheril the realms have been going down hill. I like my wizards overpowered personally. Netheril when "evil" got things right......at least for a time. Until Karsus frigged it all up... Just think about it! Emo Drizzt gets turned into a sheep then teleported to a bunch of backwards farmers who like rubber boots! :dancin: Now that would be Netherese gettin it done. Seriously though this has only been for humour and I like the FR setting for the most part though I would like some more evil characters that do not seem like a small child could deal with them.
Solisces 05-21-08, 09:30 AM	Final fate of the book characters? They reroll Horde Blood elves? We all know Alliance scum only roll Horde for the pretty. D:
UmbralKnight 05-21-08, 04:58 PM	<snip> :rofl: Thank you very much for that.