Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Speters0519 06-08-07, 10:33 AM	That old dusty wizard of Cormyr Vanderghast (may have spelled his name wrong) Is he still around? The tutor to the current court magician Caladnei? Where's he at?
ShadezofDis 06-08-07, 11:06 AM	AFAIK, he turned into a dragon and went into hibernation so that he could be called forth should Cormyr ever need him. Something like that anyhow.
Old Sage 06-08-07, 11:27 AM	See Elminster's Daughter for the full story. As well, see Ed Greenwood's [and Garen Thal's] compiled replies at Candlekeep.
ShadezofDis 06-08-07, 11:40 AM	See Elminster's Daughter for the full story. As well, see Ed Greenwood's [and Garen Thal's] compiled replies at Candlekeep. That's right! I had been thinking "Damn, that must have been from the trilogy but I can't remember the scene for the life of me. :/" Good to know my brain hasn't degraded THAT much. ;)
Speters0519 06-08-07, 04:33 PM	What type?
Old Sage 06-08-07, 09:11 PM	What are you saying?
ShadezofDis 06-11-07, 03:18 PM	What are you saying? I think he's asking what type of dragon, which I don't know (haven't read El's Daughter). There are a few theories on the board about what he's turned into exactly, but I don't think there is an "official" answer yet.
MarkusTay63 06-11-07, 03:32 PM	I think he is a song dragon (not sure though), which would make sense since song dragons were originally called Greyhawk dragons, and it is canon that Vanderghast often visited that world and city.
Old Sage 06-11-07, 08:50 PM	Some thoughts from Garen "Brian Cortijo" Thal, Ed and The Hooded One from Candlekeep:- From Brian... "A black dragon? Oh, no no, Mr. Phipps. I'm rather certain that Vangerdahast wound up as a steel dragon (despite any official word in any direction)... but what know I?" and - "And taken so. Thank you. Dragons, as a general rule, have attitudes that match their alignments. Humanoids that become dragons, however, tend to adopt forms--either intentionally, or because of the magics that make them so--that match their previous alignments and attitudes. For instance, Lorelei Alavara, the elf driven mad by the death of her betrothed Thatoryl (and swiftly descended into evilly chaotic behavior) wound up as the "Devil Dragon" Nalavara that later menaced Cormyr. It's only reasonable to assume that Vangerdahast, a lawful neutral wizard leaning toward lawful goodness (but much blood on his hands and willing to stain them still further) would adopt a LN dragon form... assuming he had any say in the matter. The steel/Greyhawk dragon is best suited for Old Thunderspells; it enjoys playing with human folks, is interested in the defense of civilized realms, and is more magically powerful than even the gold and red dragons. Emerald and sapphire dragons are also LN, but don't have the natural propensity to shift away from their base alignments as easily as steel dragons do. I'm inclined to believe that, given the freedom, Vangerdahast will eventually wind up as lawful good. After much soul-searching and penance, of course." From Ed and THO... "Garen Thal, Ed says you are right on all of this. As usual. :} He did, however, point out that Vangey retains his magic use in any form, and probably would use it to be a steel dragon that LOOKS LIKE a black dragon gone purple with age. love, THO"