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dave_the_DM 07-01-07, 11:58 AM	With "Expedition to Undermountain" out, I was hoping a really well done map of this famous (infamous?) Inn and tavern would be included. Instead, a lame colorized version of the inaccurate map from the old "City System" boxed set was provided. "Lame" in that the famous well for which the tavern is named is not shown, nor is there even room to put the "40ft by 40ft well that leads 140ft down into the bowels of Undermountain," on the map provided. Hello, they call it the "Yawning Portal" for a reason!! :confused: WTF? Ok, rant over... :D Anyway, I've searched the net, and never have I seen a well done, artistic rendering of the "Yawning Portal" done anywhere. Anyone out there know of one??? Maybe someone with some artistic talent could take up the challenge? While I am an able map maker, my skills don't compare with some of the other very fine artists out there! The Yawning Portal deserves a good rendering! thanks, Dave
MarkusTay63 07-01-07, 04:40 PM	I have an architectural program that might work, but the stuff in it might look too modern. I will see what I can do...
dave_the_DM 07-01-07, 06:37 PM	I have an architectural program that might work, but the stuff in it might look too modern. I will see what I can do... I await your efforts with baited breath! :D
Lord_Madrigan 07-01-07, 09:03 PM	Ye shall ask and Candlekeep shall provide. Ground Floor (http://www.candlekeep.com/images/sitegfx/yawningportalmainfloor.jpg) Upper Floor (http://www.candlekeep.com/images/sitegfx/yawningportallevel2.jpg) Now this is a more fitting map for the yawning portal
MarkusTay63 07-01-07, 09:29 PM	I already pointed that one out in another thread, and was informed that its inaccurate. The portal alone is 40' in diameter. Aside from the new book, where else is there a description of the Yawning Portal? I remember reading it somewhere way back when, but now I can't remember.
dave_the_DM 07-01-07, 10:49 PM	I already pointed that one out in another thread, and was informed that its inaccurate. The portal alone is 40' in diameter. Aside from the new book, where else is there a description of the Yawning Portal? I remember reading it somewhere way back when, but now I can't remember. Here is the description from the original Undermountain Boxed Set: The inn actually has two wells providing entry into Undermountain. The first is a large 40 fg diameter open-topped “dry” will in the main taproom. This well is situated between the bar and most of the dining tables. There is also a lesser-known “wet” well hidden in a back room. The wet well provides the inn with washing water only, and leads down into a section of the dungeon not detailed herein. It can be expanded by creative DMs; its passages connect with the city sewers in several places. The “wet” well’s side passages also provide indirect access to the plan of Hades by way of the Pool of Loss, if any living adventurers are so foolish as to wish to travel there. The “dry” well is the majoy entrance to Undermountain. Its upper end is surmounted by a waist-high, foot-thick stone ring/rampart which stops errant patrons and rolling flagons from making unintentional visits to the dungeon. Lit torches are always placed in brackets around the outer edge of this ring, and a massive block-and-tackle hangs from a stone lintel above the well, hiding amount the roof-beams. From the lip ot the rampart to the sandy floor of the circular “front door” pit of the dungeon is a drop of 140 feet. Those who dare to traverse Undermountain arrive garbed and equipped as the will, and pay one gold piece a head to Durnan to be lowered down the well in the center of the taproom. The adventurer are usually watched, bet upon, or toasted by the patrons there. The well is only lit by the torches at the top, and adventurers must have their own light sources to see by once they are lowered more than 50’ into the well. They are lowered to a sand-floored, stone-walled area, its walls decorated with the fragments of many old, rusted, brittle shields. These are useless in any fight, but are very handy as noisemakers when banged upon. This is generally done to alert folk in the taproom above that someone is alive down below and wants to be drawn up. Now, apparently, Durnan lowers adventureres in one at a time, by rope. I've added a platform and pulley system that allows up to four adventurers to be lowered simultanously. This made sense to me, and the well is describe as being 40' in diameter. Dave
pokie 07-02-07, 03:04 AM	I already got to it in my campaign, so i will post a pic of my custom map in a day or two...
MarkusTay63 07-02-07, 06:19 PM	Cool, it will save me the trouble. I've already promised out five maps that I'm in the middle of. Thanks for the quote, but I have the boxed set - you could have just told me the page. ;) The other well sounds VERY intersting though, and I may want to do a 'side-view' of it at some point, showing the various connecting tunels and what-not. I never attepted something like that before. :D
realmslore 07-05-07, 11:37 AM	I have drawn a map of the Yawning Portal dimensionaly correct from the old box set and if anyone would like, I can email it to you...Lance realmslore2000@yahoo.com
pokie 07-05-07, 09:02 PM	Oh that's awesome, mail it to my listed email here.