49 AC naked Dwarven Defender [Archive] - Wizards Community

49 AC naked Dwarven Defender [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
bhale187
02-14-07, 08:30 AM After reading the 'how to' high AC thread I decided to spend a little time figuring up how high I could get AC on an unarmored character. Then I decided to add in another idea I had awhile back of a monk/dwarven defender. The following is the aberration that resulted. (BTW, I realize it is supoptimal it was just made for fun)

str 8(12) dex 16 con 10 int 13 wis 15(18) cha 11
+4 Str from Dragon Disciple // +3 Wis from level bumps

1 Monk Dodge
2 sorc
3 cleric endurance
4 fighter 16 WIS combat Expertise
5 fighter (bonus feat)
6 cleric toughness
7 cleric
8 DrDic 17 WIS
9 DrD (prac spellcaster)
10 DrD
11 DrD
12 Dw Def 18 WIS (feat)
13 DD
14 DD
15 DD (feat)

Stat bonuses
Dex 3
Wis 4
Class features
DwDf 2
DefSt 4
DrDNat 2
feats
comEX 5
dodge 1
spells
MgArm 4
shld 4
Sh Fth 3
owl's 2
cat's 2
brkskn 4

total 49
bhale187
02-14-07, 09:00 AM It appears I had some bad math, it is actually 50 AC, or 31 without the buffing spells
Gaelforcwynd
02-14-07, 09:33 AM It appears I had some bad math, it is actually 50 AC, or 31 without the buffing spells

All I can say is that you have access to too much literature. :P
bhale187
02-14-07, 11:40 AM Thats only using 3 books.
As I think of it I could get a bit higher by taking out 1 fighter level and use tatooed monk 1 a bit later in the build.
I guess I could also try to add a couple levels of dueler and Fox's cunning to get 2 or 3 more on top of that if I took Extra spell feat.
ZX670
02-14-07, 11:46 AM For unarmored, a high dex martial char with a level of monk is much better off imo. Can get up to a 43 or so unbuffed, without having to Combat Expertise, hehe.
LachlarlanIII
02-14-07, 12:22 PM You wouldn't be able to cast Fox's Cunning or Cat's Grace on yourself.

Both are 2nd level spells and your Cleric levels only grant Owl's Wisdom.
LachlarlanIII
02-14-07, 12:42 PM How about:

Dwarf

Str 10, Dex 15, Con 12, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 6

1: Monk 1 - Dodge
2: Monk 2
3: Monk 3 - Mobility
4: Monk 4 - Dex 16
5: Monk 5
6: Monk 6 - Weapon Finesse
7: Monk 7
8: Monk 8 - Dex 17
9: Duelist 1 - Endurance
10: Duelist 2
11: Duelist 3
12: Duelist 4 - Toughness
13: Duelist 5
14: Dwarven Defender 1
15: Dwarven Defender 2 - Combat Expertise

Base
10
Stat Bonuses
+8 Dexterity (Includes +6 Gloves, Reduce Person Spell)
+5 Intelligence (Includes +6 Headband)
+5 Wisdom (Includes +6 Periapt)
Class Features
+2 Monk AC Bonus (Includes Level Boost from Monk's Belt)
+1 Dodge - Dwarven Defender AC Bonus
+4 Dodge - Defensive Stance from Dwarven Defender
Feats
+1 Dodge - Dodge Feat
+5 Dodge - Combat Expertise Feat
Items
+1 Insight - Dusty Rose Ioun Stone
+8 Armor - Bracers of Armor +8
+5 Deflection - Ring of Protection +5
Spells
+5 Natural - Barkskin Spell from Vibrant Purple Ioun Stone
+4 Shield - Shield Spell from Vibrant Purple Ioun Stone
+3 Luck - Recitation Spell
+1 Size - Reduce Person Spell
Total
68 AC, 72 vs Giants.

While not exactly "naked" You've got to admit that's pretty impressive.
trollbill
02-14-07, 01:34 PM All I can say is that you have access to too much literature. :P

That would explain why he can't afford clothes for his dwarf.
bhale187
02-14-07, 03:26 PM You wouldn't be able to cast Fox's Cunning or Cat's Grace on yourself.

Both are 2nd level spells and your Cleric levels only grant Owl's Wisdom.

I guess that would make it a 46 AC instead of 50.

I added the Fox's cunning/extra spell part while I was away from books and for some reason I was thinking it was a cleric spell.
Anyway you could use scrolls, but of course that would not be a 'naked' AC.

If you were using all the gear this build would be more like 78 AC, I was just trying to figure up a high AC without any equipment.
GeorgeFHarris
02-14-07, 04:53 PM You could go DeepWarden2, then you can dump Dex, pump Con, and then Bear's Endurance would add to your AC.

And if you chose a Cleric with the Plant Domain, then you could get a Natural Armor Enhancement bonus through Barkskin. (That would stack with most other natural armor bonuses.)

GH
bhale187
02-14-07, 08:31 PM You could go DeepWarden2, then you can dump Dex, pump Con, and then Bear's Endurance would add to your AC.

And if you chose a Cleric with the Plant Domain, then you could get a Natural Armor Enhancement bonus through Barkskin. (That would stack with most other natural armor bonuses.)

GH
I planned it on the plant domain, Barkskin was in the buff spell list.

I thought about dumping dex for con with deep warden, but you lose 6 AC on the dodge and combat expertise.
Adolfo_Mondschein
02-17-07, 02:34 AM keep in mind, deflection doesn't stack...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
bhale187 02-14-07, 08:30 AM	After reading the 'how to' high AC thread I decided to spend a little time figuring up how high I could get AC on an unarmored character. Then I decided to add in another idea I had awhile back of a monk/dwarven defender. The following is the aberration that resulted. (BTW, I realize it is supoptimal it was just made for fun) str 8(12) dex 16 con 10 int 13 wis 15(18) cha 11 +4 Str from Dragon Disciple // +3 Wis from level bumps 1 Monk Dodge 2 sorc 3 cleric endurance 4 fighter 16 WIS combat Expertise 5 fighter (bonus feat) 6 cleric toughness 7 cleric 8 DrDic 17 WIS 9 DrD (prac spellcaster) 10 DrD 11 DrD 12 Dw Def 18 WIS (feat) 13 DD 14 DD 15 DD (feat) Stat bonuses Dex 3 Wis 4 Class features DwDf 2 DefSt 4 DrDNat 2 feats comEX 5 dodge 1 spells MgArm 4 shld 4 Sh Fth 3 owl's 2 cat's 2 brkskn 4 total 49
bhale187 02-14-07, 09:00 AM	It appears I had some bad math, it is actually 50 AC, or 31 without the buffing spells
Gaelforcwynd 02-14-07, 09:33 AM	It appears I had some bad math, it is actually 50 AC, or 31 without the buffing spells All I can say is that you have access to too much literature. :P
bhale187 02-14-07, 11:40 AM	Thats only using 3 books. As I think of it I could get a bit higher by taking out 1 fighter level and use tatooed monk 1 a bit later in the build. I guess I could also try to add a couple levels of dueler and Fox's cunning to get 2 or 3 more on top of that if I took Extra spell feat.
ZX670 02-14-07, 11:46 AM	For unarmored, a high dex martial char with a level of monk is much better off imo. Can get up to a 43 or so unbuffed, without having to Combat Expertise, hehe.
LachlarlanIII 02-14-07, 12:22 PM	You wouldn't be able to cast Fox's Cunning or Cat's Grace on yourself. Both are 2nd level spells and your Cleric levels only grant Owl's Wisdom.
LachlarlanIII 02-14-07, 12:42 PM	How about: Dwarf Str 10, Dex 15, Con 12, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 6 1: Monk 1 - Dodge 2: Monk 2 3: Monk 3 - Mobility 4: Monk 4 - Dex 16 5: Monk 5 6: Monk 6 - Weapon Finesse 7: Monk 7 8: Monk 8 - Dex 17 9: Duelist 1 - Endurance 10: Duelist 2 11: Duelist 3 12: Duelist 4 - Toughness 13: Duelist 5 14: Dwarven Defender 1 15: Dwarven Defender 2 - Combat Expertise Base 10 Stat Bonuses +8 Dexterity (Includes +6 Gloves, Reduce Person Spell) +5 Intelligence (Includes +6 Headband) +5 Wisdom (Includes +6 Periapt) Class Features +2 Monk AC Bonus (Includes Level Boost from Monk's Belt) +1 Dodge - Dwarven Defender AC Bonus +4 Dodge - Defensive Stance from Dwarven Defender Feats +1 Dodge - Dodge Feat +5 Dodge - Combat Expertise Feat Items +1 Insight - Dusty Rose Ioun Stone +8 Armor - Bracers of Armor +8 +5 Deflection - Ring of Protection +5 Spells +5 Natural - Barkskin Spell from Vibrant Purple Ioun Stone +4 Shield - Shield Spell from Vibrant Purple Ioun Stone +3 Luck - Recitation Spell +1 Size - Reduce Person Spell Total 68 AC, 72 vs Giants. While not exactly "naked" You've got to admit that's pretty impressive.
trollbill 02-14-07, 01:34 PM	All I can say is that you have access to too much literature. :P That would explain why he can't afford clothes for his dwarf.
bhale187 02-14-07, 03:26 PM	You wouldn't be able to cast Fox's Cunning or Cat's Grace on yourself. Both are 2nd level spells and your Cleric levels only grant Owl's Wisdom. I guess that would make it a 46 AC instead of 50. I added the Fox's cunning/extra spell part while I was away from books and for some reason I was thinking it was a cleric spell. Anyway you could use scrolls, but of course that would not be a 'naked' AC. If you were using all the gear this build would be more like 78 AC, I was just trying to figure up a high AC without any equipment.
GeorgeFHarris 02-14-07, 04:53 PM	You could go DeepWarden2, then you can dump Dex, pump Con, and then Bear's Endurance would add to your AC. And if you chose a Cleric with the Plant Domain, then you could get a Natural Armor Enhancement bonus through Barkskin. (That would stack with most other natural armor bonuses.) GH
bhale187 02-14-07, 08:31 PM	You could go DeepWarden2, then you can dump Dex, pump Con, and then Bear's Endurance would add to your AC. And if you chose a Cleric with the Plant Domain, then you could get a Natural Armor Enhancement bonus through Barkskin. (That would stack with most other natural armor bonuses.) GH I planned it on the plant domain, Barkskin was in the buff spell list. I thought about dumping dex for con with deep warden, but you lose 6 AC on the dodge and combat expertise.
Adolfo_Mondschein 02-17-07, 02:34 AM	keep in mind, deflection doesn't stack...