Confused about Human Fav Class [Archive] - Wizards Community

Confused about Human Fav Class [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Painlord
11-07-07, 11:29 PM Yo.

Again I appeal to the wisdom and understanding of this board. I'm planning my Greyhawk Ruins character and want to project that my build will work without any experience penalties. I'm a little confused on the favored class stuff.

I think it's fine, but want confirmation. No, I don't think it's good or optimized, but is full of flava and fun stuff...and she'll be able to hold her own in a fight. I doubt that she'll get above level 10 as she's my tertiary character, but I built it out to Lvl 12.

Human

1: Paladin 1
2: Paldain 2
3: Marshal 1
4: Marshal 2
5: Marshal 3
6: Marshal 4
7: Fighter 1
8: Fighter 2
9: Knight 1
10: Knight 2
11: Knight 3
12: ???

Will that work?

Painlord
MwaO
11-07-07, 11:42 PM Yes, that's fine. No xp penalties. Just as a straightforward thing - I'd start with Marshal over Paladin. Gets you 6 additional good skill points at the ultimate cost of a 1 hp.
Painlord
11-07-07, 11:51 PM Wurd, MwaO, wurd.

I've done the SF (Diplomacy) at lvl 1, getting the replacement feat at Lvl 3 (when I take Mar1), so I can train out of it at Lvl 4.

And thanks for the confirmation.

-Painlord
magebeast
11-08-07, 12:36 AM Wurd, MwaO, wurd.

I've done the SF (Diplomacy) at lvl 1, getting the replacement feat at Lvl 3 (when I take Mar1), so I can train out of it at Lvl 4.

And thanks for the confirmation.

-Painlord

I'm not sure that retraining out of that feat is legal. You were only able to get the bonus feat in the first place because you had skill focus diplomacy.

Seems fishy to me.
jstorrie
11-08-07, 01:00 AM That's not what he means. He means taking SF at Pal 1, so that you get a free feat when you later tak Mrsh 1 - no retraining is necesary.

The best way to do that, I think, is to do Pal 4 first, so you can take Divine Might or Sacred Healing at 5.
Sieylianna
11-08-07, 05:54 AM I don't know that the feat retraining makes sense now that you can choose any open feat at first level.

Ed
MwaO
11-08-07, 09:28 AM A Paladin can't pick up Extra Smite due to BAB +4 and can't pick up Divine Might because they lack turning. They can only take 1 of those feats at 6th - Paladin 4/Marshal 1 allows that.

But, with Paladin 2/Marshal 1, not sure how that helps.

I don't know that the feat retraining makes sense now that you can choose any open feat at first level.

Ed
RtrnofdMax
11-08-07, 10:48 AM I know 12th is far away, but keep in mind you will get an xp penalty if you take that 4th level of knight (which would be nice for the unfettered movement in medium armor).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Painlord 11-07-07, 11:29 PM	Yo. Again I appeal to the wisdom and understanding of this board. I'm planning my Greyhawk Ruins character and want to project that my build will work without any experience penalties. I'm a little confused on the favored class stuff. I think it's fine, but want confirmation. No, I don't think it's good or optimized, but is full of flava and fun stuff...and she'll be able to hold her own in a fight. I doubt that she'll get above level 10 as she's my tertiary character, but I built it out to Lvl 12. Human 1: Paladin 1 2: Paldain 2 3: Marshal 1 4: Marshal 2 5: Marshal 3 6: Marshal 4 7: Fighter 1 8: Fighter 2 9: Knight 1 10: Knight 2 11: Knight 3 12: ??? Will that work? Painlord
MwaO 11-07-07, 11:42 PM	Yes, that's fine. No xp penalties. Just as a straightforward thing - I'd start with Marshal over Paladin. Gets you 6 additional good skill points at the ultimate cost of a 1 hp.
Painlord 11-07-07, 11:51 PM	Wurd, MwaO, wurd. I've done the SF (Diplomacy) at lvl 1, getting the replacement feat at Lvl 3 (when I take Mar1), so I can train out of it at Lvl 4. And thanks for the confirmation. -Painlord
magebeast 11-08-07, 12:36 AM	Wurd, MwaO, wurd. I've done the SF (Diplomacy) at lvl 1, getting the replacement feat at Lvl 3 (when I take Mar1), so I can train out of it at Lvl 4. And thanks for the confirmation. -Painlord I'm not sure that retraining out of that feat is legal. You were only able to get the bonus feat in the first place because you had skill focus diplomacy. Seems fishy to me.
jstorrie 11-08-07, 01:00 AM	That's not what he means. He means taking SF at Pal 1, so that you get a free feat when you later tak Mrsh 1 - no retraining is necesary. The best way to do that, I think, is to do Pal 4 first, so you can take Divine Might or Sacred Healing at 5.
Sieylianna 11-08-07, 05:54 AM	I don't know that the feat retraining makes sense now that you can choose any open feat at first level. Ed
MwaO 11-08-07, 09:28 AM	A Paladin can't pick up Extra Smite due to BAB +4 and can't pick up Divine Might because they lack turning. They can only take 1 of those feats at 6th - Paladin 4/Marshal 1 allows that. But, with Paladin 2/Marshal 1, not sure how that helps. I don't know that the feat retraining makes sense now that you can choose any open feat at first level. Ed
RtrnofdMax 11-08-07, 10:48 AM	I know 12th is far away, but keep in mind you will get an xp penalty if you take that 4th level of knight (which would be nice for the unfettered movement in medium armor).