Dragon Disciple build (Yes another one! Deal with it!) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Jay_Ibero_911

03-12-07, 01:12 AM
Race:Human
Alignment:

STR-15 (8)
DEX-14 (6)
CON-14 (6)
INT-14 (6)
WIS-8 (0)
CHA-10 (2)

Lv1(Monk)Dodge, Combat Expertise
Lv2(Monk)Combat Reflexes
Lv3(Fighter)Exotic Weapon Proficiency, Weapon Focus(Great Scimitar)
Lv4(Fighter)Power Attack, +1 STR
Lv5(Barbarian)
Lv6(Bard)Extra Rage
Lv7(Warchanter)
Lv8(Warchanter)+1 STR
Lv9(Exotic Weapon Master)Karmic Strike, Uncanny Blow
Lv10(Warchanter)
Lv11(Dragon Disciple)
Lv12(Dragon Disciple)Reckless Rage, +1 STR
Lv13(Dragon Disciple)
Lv14(Dragon Disciple)
Lv15(Dragon Disciple)Improved Critical

Basically, inspire recklessness, then reckless rage, and karmic strike. With a +6 belt and a +1 weapon at 15th...power attacking and being reckless for full...attack at +25/+20/+15 for 1d8+46 15-20/x2, -19 to your AC, and get to hit back 3 times per round, more with gloves of dex....
King Kashue

03-12-07, 01:26 AM
Is there a reason you're doing great scimitar? To switch to sword and board when needed?
Timlagor

03-12-07, 02:13 AM
It's for the Uncanny Blow: GScim has the best Critical Threat range of the 1HEWs.

Looks nice to me :) ..you can probably get a Keen GScim well before 15th though.

How about delaying DD a bit to get Fighter 4 for Weapon Spec and then pick up Weapon Mastery?

EDIT: Why the Dodge? It doesn't seem to be a PreReq for anything... left over from an attempt at Elusive Target?
Dropping it pretty much moves everything up 3 levels..though you might have to rearrange Barb to level 3 to take full advantage: Monk straight into Brabarian :D
Jay_Ibero_911

03-12-07, 01:27 PM
It's for the Uncanny Blow: GScim has the best Critical Threat range of the 1HEWs.

Looks nice to me :) ..you can probably get a Keen GScim well before 15th though.

How about delaying DD a bit to get Fighter 4 for Weapon Spec and then pick up Weapon Mastery?

EDIT: Why the Dodge? It doesn't seem to be a PreReq for anything... left over from an attempt at Elusive Target?
Dropping it pretty much moves everything up 3 levels..though you might have to rearrange Barb to level 3 to take full advantage: Monk straight into Brabarian :D

Dodge for Karmic Strike. 2 more levels of fighter for specialization, the push back Reckless Rage for MWM, and drop imrpoved crit hoping to get a keen upgrade. Ends up with 1 better bab...+2 to hit and damage over previous (because of losing 2nd strength bump from DD). Also, MWM would apply to the bite attack...which I completely forgot about. +27/+22/+17 for great scimitar at 1d8+24 power attack +22 STR +4 feats +1 weapon for 1d8+51 total, and bite at 1d6+5 str+12 power attack +2 feats +21 at 1d6+19.
Alpha_Nerd

03-12-07, 01:52 PM
Why Dragon Disicple 5? You don't really get anything from it. I'd pick up bard 2 at 11th and Dragon Disciple 1-4 after that so you actually get some spells worth using like Critical Strike.
Jay_Ibero_911

03-12-07, 02:15 PM
Why Dragon Disicple 5? You don't really get anything from it. I'd pick up bard 2 at 11th and Dragon Disciple 1-4 after that so you actually get some spells worth using like Critical Strike.

I like the blindsense and the larger HD.
Howie23

03-12-07, 03:35 PM
Is the high Int just for skills or am I missing a prereq?

David
King Kashue

03-12-07, 04:09 PM
Is the high Int just for skills or am I missing a prereq?

David

Combat Expertise, 1st level...
Jay_Ibero_911

03-12-07, 05:34 PM
Race:Human
Alignment:Neutral or Chaotic Good

STR-15 (8)
DEX-14 (6)
CON-14 (6)
INT-14 (6)
WIS-8 (0)
CHA-10 (2)

Lv1(Monk)Dodge, Combat Expertise
Lv2(Monk)Combat Reflexes
Lv3(Fighter)Exotic Weapon Proficiency, Weapon Focus(Great Scimitar)
Lv4(Fighter)Power Attack, +1 STR
Lv5(Barbarian)
Lv6(Fighter)Extra Rage
Lv7(Fighter)Weapon Specialization
Lv8(Exotic Weapon Master)+1 STR
Lv9(Bard)Karmic Strike
Lv10(Warchanter)
Lv11(Warchanter)
Lv12(Warchanter)Melee Weapon Mastery, +1 STR
Lv13(Dragon Disciple)
Lv14(Dragon Disciple)
Lv15(Dragon Disciple)Reckless Rage

Attack at 15th, with reckless rage, +1 weapon, +6 belt
BAB+12, +12 recklessness, +11 Str, +1 weapon, +1 focus, +2 MWM, -12 power attack=+27/+22/+17
1d8 +24 PA +22 STR +4 feats +1 weapon=1d8+51
Bite=+21, 1d6+19

-20 to AC....

Takes a little longer to get inspire recklessness, but ends up with better attack and damage. Definately want to invest in +6 amulet of health, and of course +6 str belt. Probably gloves of dex for a few more AOO's...
Howie23

03-12-07, 08:47 PM
Combat Expertise, 1st level...

For some reason I was thinking that was a Monk bonus...I think I'm confusing what the monk options are.

David
King Kashue

03-12-07, 08:53 PM
For some reason I was thinking that was a Monk bonus...I think I'm confusing what the monk options are.

David

1st Level is Imp Grapple or Stunning Fist
2nd Level is Combat reflexes and Deflect Arrows (I think)
6th level is Imp Trip or Imp Disarm
Timlagor

03-12-07, 09:11 PM
1st Level is Imp Grapple or Stunning Fist
2nd Level is Combat reflexes and Deflect Arrows (I think)
6th level is Imp Trip or Imp Disarm

Correct but I think Fiery Fist (option for 2nd) is Open too and there's another that says it can be taken as 8th level bonus which is probably a typo for 6th.
boogahwoof

03-13-07, 04:04 PM
One thing i was wondering is, if you take the feat
(soul of the north) it lets you cast two 0 level spells, and one 1st level. There are a few feats like this necropolis born and such. Well doesnt that make you meet the pre req of casting a 1st level arcane for this PrC? Just a way of getting into dragon disc without having to take a spellcasting level if you wanted to focus on melle combat?
Jay_Ibero_911

03-13-07, 04:10 PM
One thing i was wondering is, if you take the feat
(soul of the north) it lets you cast two 0 level spells, and one 1st level. There are a few feats like this necropolis born and such. Well doesnt that make you meet the pre req of casting a 1st level arcane for this PrC? Just a way of getting into dragon disc without having to take a spellcasting level if you wanted to focus on melle combat?

It requires the abiity to cast arcane spells without preparation, not the ability to use arcane spell-like abilities, otherwise a gnome with 10 CHA would automatically qualify...