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berpo 07-03-07, 03:07 PM	Hi all, I'll need your great knowlegde and wisdom to help me with this problem. If i take Shapeshift alternative class, I gain the shapeshift supernatural (SU) ability at will. The Warshaper presrtige class have 5 different ways to fullfil the requirement. 1: Change shape supernatural anility (ex: hound archon) 2: Shapechanger subtype (ex: phasm) 3: Polymorph as a spell-like ability (ex: solar) 4: Able to cast the polymorph spell 5: Wild shape or similar calss feature (bear warrior) Since it is specified that shapeshift is not wild shape anymore. I think that I will be able to take some levels of warshaper because the first criteria. "Change shape" and "shapeshift" is not the exact word but define the samething. I'm I wrong ? I friend of mine think so. I need your help on that case. Thanks, Marc
Jay_Ibero_911 07-03-07, 03:24 PM	Hi all, I'll need your great knowlegde and wisdom to help me with this problem. If i take Shapeshift alternative class, I gain the shapeshift supernatural (SU) ability at will. The Warshaper presrtige class have 5 different ways to fullfil the requirement. 1: Change shape supernatural anility (ex: hound archon) 2: Shapechanger subtype (ex: phasm) 3: Polymorph as a spell-like ability (ex: solar) 4: Able to cast the polymorph spell 5: Wild shape or similar calss feature (bear warrior) Since it is specified that shapeshift is not wild shape anymore. I think that I will be able to take some levels of warshaper because the first criteria. "Change shape" and "shapeshift" is not the exact word but define the samething. I'm I wrong ? I friend of mine think so. I need your help on that case. Thanks, Marc Ultimately it would be a core rules issue dependant on whether or not shapeshift qualifies as a similar class feature for the Warshaper requirements...
CdrcJsn 07-03-07, 07:41 PM	Since the wording isn't exact, you can expect table variance on this. However, I don't think any judge will disallow the combo.
Arcane Guyver 07-03-07, 08:29 PM	5: Wild shape or similar class feature I believe 'Shapeshift' falls under this category. It replaces the ability to take on the form of any legal animal within HD limit for a slicker ability to take on a small number of forms at will.
boogahwoof 07-05-07, 09:23 PM	Are the alternate class rules from the PH II even legal ? I looked through the LGCS and didnt see where they were ?
Eric Anondson 07-06-07, 12:32 AM	Are the alternate class rules from the PH II even legal?They are NONC. Get campaign documentation to Open them for you and then they are "legal".
Banor 07-06-07, 12:34 AM	Are the alternate class rules from the PH II even legal ? I looked through the LGCS and didnt see where they were ? Then what does it mean ? Everybody in chorus, if its not in the LGCS you need campaign documentation opening for your PC (LGCS p26). Gotta read up a bit :)
haferka 07-06-07, 07:38 PM	Bandit Kingdoms.. Fellreev Druids metaorg... 2nd level character qualifies for entry. and grants the Shapeshift ability from PH2.