Enchanter feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Enchanter feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

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jstorrie
06-01-07, 10:08 PM Hey, I have a human enchanter in play and I'm looking to plan out my feat choices. Here's where I am so far:

1 Ench MMSF, Rapid Spell, Scribe Scroll
2 Ench
3 Ench CWI
4 Ench
5 Ench Spell Focus
6 Ench Chain Spell
7 Ench retrain Rapid Spell out for Fey Heritage
8 Ench
9 Ench Fey Skin, retrain Spell Focus to Fey Power
10 Ench Quicken Spell
11 Fate
12 Fate Spell Focus
13 Archmage
14 Archmage
15 Archmage: Quicken Spell Like Ability: Chain Tasha's Hideous Laughter

The weird Archmage levels at the end are to trade two 5 and one 8 slot for 8 Quickened Chained Tashas per day, to spam at every opportunity. Chain MMSF in the high levels will probably go to Greater Heroisms or attack spells.

Any advice?
cycloptic_squirrel
06-01-07, 10:56 PM 1) What do you see the fey feats doing for you? If you like the bonuses vs. enchantments and DR, that's great; if you're in it for the DC boost I'd skip them and go with greater spell focus.

2) Achmage requires skill focus (spellcraft) and spell focus in two different schools.

3) The quicken spell-like ability only works three times a day, though you could skip the chaining on the first two helpings and just do a single quickened Tasha's.

4) I'm not sure if the benefits of spell focus and fey power apply to spell-like abilities - they might, I'm not sure.

5) Consider Improved Initiative; if you can dominate a guy before the barbarian crashes into him, you're sitting pretty.

6) If you do go for the achmage, consider picking up another MMSF, enchantments aren't the only things you might want to quicken/chain.
King Kashue
06-01-07, 11:01 PM 2) Achmage requires skill focus (spellcraft) and spell focus in two different schools.

Also, Archmage requires the ability to cast 7th level spells, which means you cannot take it until Level 14.

Also, you need spell focus in two schools, whereas you only have it in one (since you're retraining out of it at 9th)...

So, my advice on that point would be to not take the class until you legally can :D
JamesMaissen
06-02-07, 12:01 AM Hey, I have a human enchanter in play and I'm looking to plan out my feat choices. Here's where I am so far:

1 Ench MMSF, Rapid Spell, Scribe Scroll
7 Ench retrain Rapid Spell out for Fey Heritage
Any advice?

You can't retrain out Rapid Spell without first getting rid of MMSF,

James
magebeast
06-02-07, 12:19 AM You can't retrain out Rapid Spell without first getting rid of MMSF,

James

Metamagic School Focus doesn't require a metamagic feat.
Crazy Boro
06-02-07, 12:59 AM Might want a look at Unsettling Enchantment (CM) if you want to toss an additional effect on them and it will make it so you do something even if they do save.
jstorrie
06-02-07, 03:40 AM With Archmage a wash, I suppose I would just take Fatespinner to 4, and GSF at 15.
Sieylianna
06-02-07, 08:00 AM Spell Focus isn't a valid wizard bonus feat.

Ed
JamesMaissen
06-02-07, 10:45 AM Metamagic School Focus doesn't require a metamagic feat.

Oops, my mistake, sorry.

-James
jstorrie
06-02-07, 02:24 PM Spell Focus isn't a valid wizard bonus feat.

Ed

Right. Have to swap it and Chain Spell around, then.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
jstorrie 06-01-07, 10:08 PM	Hey, I have a human enchanter in play and I'm looking to plan out my feat choices. Here's where I am so far: 1 Ench MMSF, Rapid Spell, Scribe Scroll 2 Ench 3 Ench CWI 4 Ench 5 Ench Spell Focus 6 Ench Chain Spell 7 Ench retrain Rapid Spell out for Fey Heritage 8 Ench 9 Ench Fey Skin, retrain Spell Focus to Fey Power 10 Ench Quicken Spell 11 Fate 12 Fate Spell Focus 13 Archmage 14 Archmage 15 Archmage: Quicken Spell Like Ability: Chain Tasha's Hideous Laughter The weird Archmage levels at the end are to trade two 5 and one 8 slot for 8 Quickened Chained Tashas per day, to spam at every opportunity. Chain MMSF in the high levels will probably go to Greater Heroisms or attack spells. Any advice?
cycloptic_squirrel 06-01-07, 10:56 PM	1) What do you see the fey feats doing for you? If you like the bonuses vs. enchantments and DR, that's great; if you're in it for the DC boost I'd skip them and go with greater spell focus. 2) Achmage requires skill focus (spellcraft) and spell focus in two different schools. 3) The quicken spell-like ability only works three times a day, though you could skip the chaining on the first two helpings and just do a single quickened Tasha's. 4) I'm not sure if the benefits of spell focus and fey power apply to spell-like abilities - they might, I'm not sure. 5) Consider Improved Initiative; if you can dominate a guy before the barbarian crashes into him, you're sitting pretty. 6) If you do go for the achmage, consider picking up another MMSF, enchantments aren't the only things you might want to quicken/chain.
King Kashue 06-01-07, 11:01 PM	2) Achmage requires skill focus (spellcraft) and spell focus in two different schools. Also, Archmage requires the ability to cast 7th level spells, which means you cannot take it until Level 14. Also, you need spell focus in two schools, whereas you only have it in one (since you're retraining out of it at 9th)... So, my advice on that point would be to not take the class until you legally can :D
JamesMaissen 06-02-07, 12:01 AM	Hey, I have a human enchanter in play and I'm looking to plan out my feat choices. Here's where I am so far: 1 Ench MMSF, Rapid Spell, Scribe Scroll 7 Ench retrain Rapid Spell out for Fey Heritage Any advice? You can't retrain out Rapid Spell without first getting rid of MMSF, James
magebeast 06-02-07, 12:19 AM	You can't retrain out Rapid Spell without first getting rid of MMSF, James Metamagic School Focus doesn't require a metamagic feat.
Crazy Boro 06-02-07, 12:59 AM	Might want a look at Unsettling Enchantment (CM) if you want to toss an additional effect on them and it will make it so you do something even if they do save.
jstorrie 06-02-07, 03:40 AM	With Archmage a wash, I suppose I would just take Fatespinner to 4, and GSF at 15.
Sieylianna 06-02-07, 08:00 AM	Spell Focus isn't a valid wizard bonus feat. Ed
JamesMaissen 06-02-07, 10:45 AM	Metamagic School Focus doesn't require a metamagic feat. Oops, my mistake, sorry. -James
jstorrie 06-02-07, 02:24 PM	Spell Focus isn't a valid wizard bonus feat. Ed Right. Have to swap it and Chain Spell around, then.