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Jay_Ibero_911 04-24-07, 03:04 PM	Race:Wood Elf Alignment:Lawful Good (Ehlenestra) STR-16 (10)+2 DEX-15 (8)+2 CON-14 (6)-2 INT-8 (0)-2 WIS-12 (4) CHA-8 (0) Lv1(Ranger)Track, Point Blank Shot Lv2(Ranger)Rapid Shot Lv3(Fighter)True Believer, Precise Shot Lv4(Fighter)Weapon Focus, +1 DEX Lv5(Ranger)Endurance Lv6(Ranger)Manyshot Lv7(Pious Templar) Lv8(Pious Templar)+1 DEX Lv9(Pious Templar)Improved Initiative, Weapon Specialization Lv10(Occult Slayer) Lv11(Pious Templar)Improved Precise Shot Lv12(Occult Slayer)Ranged Weapon Mastery, +1 DEX Lv13(Ranger) Lv14(Knight of the Chalice) Lv15(Knight of the Chalice)Improved Favored Enemy Uses every last skill point for class pre-reqs, but gets a nice array of abilities. Arrow Mind from Ranger, pickup a few pearls to get more uses out of it. Divine Sacrifice from Pious Templar to add some punch to first shot each round. Standard Occult Slayer bonus damage, and more damage vs. Evil Outsiders from Knight of the Chalice on the end. Favored Enemy (Evil Outsiders) too of course. Get lucky with a Holy Sacred Mage Bane Evil Ousider Bane bow (I can dream) while Divine Sacrifice is up, and you get 15d6 with your first shot against an evil outsider.
dkay807 04-24-07, 05:57 PM	Race:Wood Elf Alignment:Lawful Good (Ehlenestra) STR-16 (10)+2 DEX-15 (8)+2 CON-14 (6)-2 INT-8 (0)-2 WIS-12 (4) CHA-8 (0) Lv1(Ranger)Track, Point Blank Shot Lv2(Ranger)Rapid Shot Lv3(Fighter)True Believer, Precise Shot Lv4(Fighter)Weapon Focus, +1 DEX Lv5(Ranger)Endurance Lv6(Ranger)Manyshot Lv7(Pious Templar) Lv8(Pious Templar)+1 DEX Lv9(Pious Templar)Improved Initiative, Weapon Specialization Lv10(Occult Slayer) Lv11(Pious Templar)Improved Precise Shot Lv12(Occult Slayer)Ranged Weapon Mastery, +1 DEX Lv13(Ranger) Lv14(Knight of the Chalice) Lv15(Knight of the Chalice)Improved Favored Enemy Uses every last skill point for class pre-reqs, but gets a nice array of abilities. Arrow Mind from Ranger, pickup a few pearls to get more uses out of it. Divine Sacrifice from Pious Templar to add some punch to first shot each round. Standard Occult Slayer bonus damage, and more damage vs. Evil Outsiders from Knight of the Chalice on the end. Favored Enemy (Evil Outsiders) too of course. Get lucky with a Holy Sacred Mage Bane Evil Ousider Bane bow (I can dream) while Divine Sacrifice is up, and you get 15d6 with your first shot against an evil outsider. I would ditch Occult Slayer and pick up more levels of Knight of the Chalice. My reasoning for this is as follows: a) Occult Slayer dilutes the build... I don't know how much you care about style, but my I feel like people would view the PC as "just another occult slayer archer" which is pretty boring and hackneyed. Knight of the Chalice is pretty unused. b) You don't need improved initative - you can get ranged weapon mastery ealier (which is a crucial feat for archers now) and then you can get improved favored enemy at 12 c) You save a ton on the skills One last thing... the point on the bow... it's not that out of the question. You'll probably get access to everything except the magebane with ease. Besides, Magebane is nerfed somewhat in MIC, allowing you to only use the bonus against creatures that can cast arcane spells... not spell-like abilities. Once that change is LG official, if ever, the ability would be useless against evil outsiders anyway... unless you're trying to be a "magebane" archer as well as an "evil outsider bane" archer. Just as an FYI - my buddy plays a Wood Elf Ranger 11/Fighter 1/Templar 3 of Elhonna with Improved Favored Enemy Evil Outsiders and a Holy Sacred Evil Outsider Bane Bow and uh... they vaporize when he acts. His attack bonus is approximately +40 with 5 shots per round and he deals quite a bit of damage per shot, as you can imagine. Also, his skills are fantastic for other things as well since it wasn't too much of a hit to just take 4 ranks in knowledge: religion. So it goes to show, you don't need to trick a PC out too much to be extremely effective against evil outsiders.
Jay_Ibero_911 04-24-07, 06:05 PM	I would ditch Occult Slayer and pick up more levels of Knight of the Chalice. My reasoning for this is as follows: a) Occult Slayer dilutes the build... I don't know how much you care about style, but my I feel like people would view the PC as "just another occult slayer archer" which is pretty boring and hackneyed. Knight of the Chalice is pretty unused. b) You don't need improved initative - you can get ranged weapon mastery ealier (which is a crucial feat for archers now) and then you can get improved favored enemy at 12 c) You save a ton on the skills One last thing... the point on the bow... it's not that out of the question. You'll probably get access to everything except the magebane with ease. Besides, Magebane is nerfed somewhat in MIC, allowing you to only use the bonus against creatures that can cast arcane spells... not spell-like abilities. Once that change is LG official, if ever, the ability would be useless against evil outsiders anyway... unless you're trying to be a "magebane" archer as well as an "evil outsider bane" archer. Just as an FYI - my buddy plays a Wood Elf Ranger 11/Fighter 1/Templar 3 of Elhonna with Improved Favored Enemy Evil Outsiders and a Holy Sacred Evil Outsider Bane Bow and uh... they vaporize when he acts. His attack bonus is approximately +40 with 5 shots per round and he deals quite a bit of damage per shot, as you can imagine. Also, his skills are fantastic for other things as well since it wasn't too much of a hit to just take 4 ranks in knowledge: religion. So it goes to show, you don't need to trick a PC out too much to be extremely effective against evil outsiders. Good catch on the change to magebane. As far as dumping Occult Slayer for more Knight of the Chalice, it's not too bad of a trade, and does move up feats and reduce skill needs...I have yet to actually start an archer, but after much tinkering I think this (perhaps with the slight modifications) would be what I make...