Favored Beguiler of Al'Akbar [Archive] - Wizards Community

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MwaO

04-17-08, 04:13 PM
This is for a cohort...while the god could change, this would be for my Monk Caster, who is a Paladin of Al'Akbar, who might take Leadership at 15th. Whichever god it is, it and the cohort must be Lawful Good. I would prefer the Healing Domain, but the Courage Domain is very tempting, too.

Human(Baklunish)

1: Beguiler 1: Well-Read, Arcane Disciple(Healing)
2: Beguiler 2
3: Beguiler 3: Skill Focus(Knowledge: Religion)
4: Beguiler 4
5: Beguiler 5: Silent Spell
6: Divine Oracle 1: Enlarge Spell
7: War Weaver 1
8: War Weaver 2
9: War Weaver 3: Augment Healing
10: War Weaver 4
11: War Weaver 5
12: Beguiler 6: Arcane Disciple(Community)
13: Beguiler 7

Basically, he can weave the following spells:
1: CLW
2: CMW, Status, Blur, Invisibility, Spider Climb
3: CSW, Crown of Veils, Displacement, Haste, Heroism
4: CCW, Freedom of Movement, Greater Invisibility
5: Swift Etherealness

He's actually something of a rarity - a healer who is much better in combat than out - his CXW spells basically act like Mass CXW. But out of combat, he can't do all that much healing. He also is able to cast Heroes Feast, Commune, Divination, and a few other useful spells. As an important note: Beguiler does not get Craft as a class skills, so Divine Oracle is somewhat necessary for that - Ruathar would solve that problem(and more), but I don't have access to it. The Beguiler 7 is necessary for Heroism.

Maxxed Skills:
Disable Device, Search, Spot, Use Magic Device(maybe reading scrolls into the Weave, but only if the DM insists I can do that).

Thoughts?
RtrnofdMax

04-17-08, 04:43 PM
A purely mechanical observation: Are you going to have the wisdom to pull off Arcane Disciple? It looks like you're going to need at least a 14 so make sure you're willing to devote a chunk of your attributes to that.
Maesto

04-17-08, 04:46 PM
Two thoughts.

a) You've been hanging around on Blackstar too long.

b) You've been hanging around on Blackstar too long.

:D

Ok, a third thought. You've been han... no, just kidding. You've been looking at Marokep's spell list at 13 too long ;-) Is Ishkara going to give up her status as the party rogue? That would just be wrong! ;)

Ok, real thoughts. I don't know how the skillpoints work out, but it might be better to take Beguiler 6 in the middle of the warweaver levels. Warweaver is an awful class for skills. I can see the desire for Beguiler 7 (advanced learning! Happy happy joy joy!); recommend a weaveable spell.

One again, you are the only person to ever recommend not taking the second level of divine oracle...

No comments other than that really. He serves a purpose, Tash will think he's an elf, and Liantir will kill dreadwraiths ;) I'm sufficiently unfamiliar with deities and domains as to not provide anything constructive in that regards.
MwaO

04-17-08, 05:03 PM
A purely mechanical observation: Are you going to have the wisdom to pull off Arcane Disciple? It looks like you're going to need at least a 14 so make sure you're willing to devote a chunk of your attributes to that.

Yes, the cohort's stats are not particularly great, but as a buffer, he wouldn't be doing too much attacking other creatures in combat.

Something like this:
Str 10, Dex 12, Con 13, Int 15, Wis 14, Cha 8 - I have Ioun Stone access to a Wisdom stone, so I'll have him purchase one.

Ok, real thoughts. I don't know how the skillpoints work out, but it might be better to take Beguiler 6 in the middle of the warweaver levels. Warweaver is an awful class for skills. I can see the desire for Beguiler 7 (advanced learning! Happy happy joy joy!); recommend a weaveable spell.

It makes no real difference - I can't retrain(at least, that's how I'd interpret it), so I used up all the cross-class skills to help level Search.

One again, you are the only person to ever recommend not taking the second level of divine oracle...

And what? Give up Heroism through the Weave? ;)